Speculation: Barber on the Block?

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sonnyboy;3323444 said:
Anyone really really down on Barber should go back and re-watch the first Giants game week 2.

I did the other week when NFL Network replayed it. I was surprised at how quick Barber looked. His last run to set up our go ahead TD was awesome. He made a real quick side step of a tackler at the LOS and raced 35 yards. Of course that was the play he pulled his quad.

I just think he still brings plenty to the table.
Should Felix start? Yes.
Should Felix get as many or more carries than Barber and Choice together? Yes
Is Barber over paid? Yes.

But I still think he's a valuable player for us.

Yea, he looked great early in the season. But running backs have short careers (3-4 years average) and with this style of running, it will be short. He has always been one of my favorite players but if you can get some value right now, i would do it.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3323506 said:
Yes!... We're getting Leonard Weaver for a seventh.

I actually like him as a FB. Maybe we do end up picking up another guy later on in FA or in the Draft . . . .
 

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I'd rather give Barber another season to prove he's not done, so I wouldn't trade him unless the pick was 3rd or higher...And no way would I trade him to one of the teams in the division, even if it was a 1st rounder
 

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sonnyboy;3323444 said:
Anyone really really down on Barber should go back and re-watch the first Giants game week 2.

I did the other week when NFL Network replayed it. I was surprised at how quick Barber looked. His last run to set up our go ahead TD was awesome. He made a real quick side step of a tackler at the LOS and raced 35 yards. Of course that was the play he pulled his quad.

I just think he still brings plenty to the table.
Should Felix start? Yes.
Should Felix get as many or more carries than Barber and Choice together? Yes
Is Barber over paid? Yes.

But I still think he's a valuable player for us.
the problem is the NFL season is 16 games plus playoffs. Easier to look quick in the begining of the year before the toll of the season sets in. Barber leaves to many yards on the field because he is not a very skilled RB. He is a north south guy. He has a place in this league, but he is Eddie George. And Eddie George was effecive because he carried the ball so much and eventually wore teams down. That will not work in Dallas. We have to many weapons to continue to feed Barber in hopes that he will eventually break the will of the opposition. This organization, the coaches, the fans do not have the patience to play Raven, Steeler, Titan football. And the reason is we do NOT have too. We have a QB that has one of the greatest starts to his career of ANY QB in history. We have 2 TEs that are capable of starting for anyone as both pass catches and run blockers. Miles Austin, Roy Williams and Patrick Crayton have proven (at different times) that they are more than capable of allowing us to be a top 10 passing team. And I have not even mentioned Felix Jones and Tashard Choice. Basically what I am saying is that on THIS team, Barber should be a role player. And actually so should Jason Witten. THe reason we did not put the ball in the endzone is because our explosive players (and we need another one) do not touch the ball enough. For all of Wittens catches and yards...he had ONE TD. Bennet needs to grow up and mature so we can use him to help imporve our red zone efficeincy. We need a better return games so this team does NOT have to work so hard to get in scoring position. And actually too many penalties are also why this team has so many yards with little points to show for it. Honestly, the versatiltiy and mulitple weapon factor (much like the Saints) is the strenght of this offense. So guys need to get on board with the spread the wealth theme or they should be moved on, like TO was!
 

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Gaede;3323522 said:
I'd rather give Barber another season to prove he's not done, so I wouldn't trade him unless the pick was 3rd or higher...And no way would I trade him to one of the teams in the division, even if it was a 1st rounder

I'd trade Barber for Wash #1. If we had a high #1 we could get a franchise LT. :D
 

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I dont see it happening, Barber will be on the Cowboys roster this year.
 

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I understand both the loyalty to Barber and the desire to trade him while he still has some value. Barber has been a quality locker room guy for us and a huge TD machine a couple of years ago. But, to be honest, I think just about any quality rb could have done the same thing with 90% of his td's coming from 2 yds or less. I like and have always liked his blue collar, come to work, and work hard attitude. It's been a great influence in the locker room and you have to appreciate that. The problem with MBIII is that once he became the starter and carried the big load he couldn't stay healthy. True his decline comes after injuries BUT he gets injured early and often every since he became #1. With his style he can't be the workhorse here. He needs to go back to a backup role but his contract is for starter money (double jeapardy). He will want to stay or be a starter wherever he is and that means he will never stay healthy meaning he only has a couple of valuable (read not good) years left. We need to try and get something for him while he still has value. Some say let him have another year to prove he has it or not. WHY? If you give him another year and it's like last year and the year before, what have we proven? That he really is done? Then what is he worth on the market? We will have proven that he isn't worth a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. Anything else is hardly a trade even worth discussing.
 

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Yeagermeister;3323534 said:
I'd trade Barber for Wash #1. If we had a high #1 we could get a franchise LT. :D

hahah yeah, didn't think of that. I'd do that, for sure...I mean, I'd feel bad for Barber but what are you gonna do...
 

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THUMPER;3323418 said:
I would believe Portis before Barber.

agreed. he has worn out his welcome in washington. he also think he is the sh!ts in washington as well and Shanahan doesn't stand for that. I think he maybe dealth to Philly since they hold so many picks this year. they already signed bell. but he has been injury prone. portis fits their style of play. 4th rounder for portis would be good for both.
 

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Also remember that Shanahan and Portis didn't get along to begin with. Isn't that why portis left Denver?
 

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I like Barber. I've been one of his biggest fans. But the NFL is a business, and with the way the the league is now it's a giant chess game. Having 3 capable backs is often a luxury not needed. The running back position is one that you can replace the easiest, and when you have other needs that you have to address, the running back position should be a place that's the most expendable. He isn't Felix. If we can get a 3rd rounder for Barber I think you take the deal. There's a lot of depth in the 3rd this year and we can get that much closer to addressing a position of need if we can get that for him. We all saw what Choice did in 2008 against some of the best defenses in the league, he's ready for a #2 role. That being said, I don't think you give up Barber for anything less than a 3rd unless draft day comes and you see a player that has dropped to the 4th that has a 2-3 round grade and you think can make a near immediate impact.
 

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Neither Barber nor Felix Jones has been able to stay healthy all season lately so I wouldn't be too quick to get rid of him right now. We need all 3 RBs to have a consistent running game all year. I'd like to see Choice get more snaps and Felix as well so I don't mind if Barber is coming off the bench like he did when Julius Jones was here, in fact I would prefer it.

We really need to involve Felix in the passing game more and not just dump off passes or screens. He has the ability to beat a LB or Safety deep so why not utilize him in that role more. With Witten taking up a goodly amount of coverage by the LBs & Safeties he should be singled up and we could capitalize on it.

Just my 2-cents though.
 

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SLATEmosphere;3323446 said:
That's my guess as well.

Or Addai to the Texans.
Ronnie Brown is on the hotseat in Miami after his DUI as well.
 

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SLATEmosphere;3323429 said:
Addai and McGahee both made the probowl in 2008.

I'm going to bet it's one of those two.
This makes more sense.
 

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Alexander;3323624 said:
Ronnie Brown is on the hotseat in Miami after his DUI as well.

Not if Parcells likes him. Why a guy would have to get shot in order to...........nevermind.
 

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Seven;3323629 said:
Not if Parcells likes him. Why a guy would have to get shot in order to...........nevermind.
I don't know exactly how he is viewed by Coach Parcells, but I do know he has been injured quite often. We know how an injury history is frowned upon by Parcells.

They also supposedly have been checking out Spiller as Brown's possible replacement. I think New England would take Brown for a second or third round choice they have burning a hole in their pockets.
 

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Alexander;3323624 said:
Ronnie Brown is on the hotseat in Miami after his DUI as well.

That was one of my first thoughts as well. We know Belichick likes getting guys he's watched play first-hand in his own division.
 

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Robinson is just stabbing in the dark. Here are the exchanges via Twitter:

Brandon Jacobs has never been a Pro Bowler. It's not him.
about 11 hours ago via web It's not DeAngelo Williams. Nor Maurice Jones Drew.

about 11 hours ago via web @Todd_Wright McGahee is possible. Along w/ Marion Barber and Marshawn. Key is the trade fit within each division. Hope 2 know more tomorrow.

about 11 hours ago via web in reply to Todd_Wright It's most definitely not Adrian Peterson. Not in a million years.

about 11 hours ago via web Yes, eveyone is correct about Marshawn Lynch. Forgot he was Pro Bowl replacement. A possibility, though I have 2 wonder about his value.

about 11 hours ago via web Yes, RFA's can B traded. But that's not scenario that was described to me. It's not a team simply signing someone away and shipping a pick.

about 11 hours ago via web It's not Frank Gore. And both Ronnie Brown and Leon Washington are RFAs. Marion Barber still fits the description most accurately.

about 11 hours ago via web The RB isn't Ricky Williams. Ricky doesn't have the trade value.

about 11 hours ago via web Will B at Sam Bradford's showing 4 teams in Oklahoma. Hoping 2 talk 2 execs & flesh out pro bowl RB that is supposedly on the trade block.

about 12 hours ago via web It's not Joseph Addai. I checked into him. And the 49ers love Frank Gore. I don't think there's any shot that it's him.

9:09 PM Mar 27th via web Yes, unfortunately the source for this tip was vague, but they had good reason to be. The source always has great info, though.

9:07 PM Mar 27th via web It's not Leon Washington. Injury concern & he's available as a restricted FA. Marshawn Lynch never been Pro Bowler. Ronnie Brown? Possibly.

8:51 PM Mar 27th via web The running back definitely isn't Steven Jackson. Absolutely not. I checked into him. He's not going anywhere.
8:31 PM Mar 27th via web Initial thought was Portis, but his trade value just isn't very strong. But factors around Barber (contract, split carries, etc) make sense.

8:20 PM Mar 27th via web I don't know the destination. It was an ambiguous tip. Have been trying 2 nail down the RB and the 2 teams for a week. Barber fits the best.

8:17 PM Mar 27th via web Agree, extremely rare a pro bowl RB is dealt within his division. But I'm told that talks are occurring. Barber fits the scenario the best.

8:14 PM Mar 27th via web Barber is a little younger than Portis (26 vs. 28), has less mileage and is more explosive. Injury factor is probably a wash at this point.

8:12 PM Mar 27th via web I don't think the RB is Portis. He doesn't have much trade value. Barber, on the other hand, does. And he's making too much 2 B a share guy.
8:08 PM Mar 27th via web
 
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