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3 older guys come to mind -- Franco Harris, Larry Csonka, and John Riggins.

There is a viable theory in choosing this kind of back, and that is they can't be tackled by a DB without inflicting some pain, are not likely to go down without churning for an extra 3-5 yards, and are stout enough to survive the pounding and be relatively less injury prone.

Could be a bellcow......or maybe just a cow.

So you picked 3 of the best power backs ever on SB teams to prove your point? How about the other 500 backs where it didn't work out?

I have watched Henry play and I am not convinced that he is going to be anything like those guys. You need moves, vision, speed in the NFL. All this guy has is size. That wont do him much good in the NFL without the other qualities. Although, like I said, behind the Dallas Oline, even McChicken can look good.
 

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If we do go bosa then get Lynch in the 2nd or a trade up. I would be happy with that.

I think Lynch is the best of the top 3. Wentz may turn out fine eventually but it's going to take some time for him. I don't like Goff's hand size.
 
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Then don't draft any qb. This year or next. Or any time we have Romo under contract.

These guys are running scared.

They think that as soon as Romo is done they can pull out their laptop, go to franchiseQBRus.com and find the next Aaron Rodgers and plug him in.

A franchise QB is the toughest position to fill in all of sports. Waiting until you absolutely, positively MUST have one immediately is the very definition of being shortsighted.
 

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But if we draft Goff at 4 and Romo goes down, somehow Goff will lead us to the playoffs? A QB at 4 means no more to us this coming season than a QB in round 5.

I dont understand this line of thinking. IF Romo goes down, we probably dont make the playoffs no matter who we take. Whether it be Goff or a DE or whomever. So how is this a case for NOT taking Goff? Now if Romo goes down and Goff plays half the season, then its great experience for him. Then maybe he can lead us to the playoffs in his 2nd season if Romo goes down again. And then in year 3 he may be ready to take over. Its quite clear that having a great QB is the key to things whether you its Romo or someone else. So why would pass up the opportunity to secure the next Romo for the next 12 years? Is the next year or two more important than the 12 years after that? How can 2 years be more important than 12 years?

Its not like Romo is 30 years old and in great shape. The guy is 36 years old and brittle and injury prone at this point. It simply doesnt make sense.
 

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These guys are running scared.

They think that as soon as Romo is done they can pull out their laptop, go to franchiseQBRus.com and find the next Aaron Rodgers and plug him in.

A franchise QB is the toughest position to fill in all of sports. Waiting until you absolutely, positively MUST have one immediately is the very definition of being shortsighted.

Its a combination of being unrealistic and shortsighted. Its a dream scenario. WE got lucky getting top 4 pick. Its been what, 13 years since we drafted this high? Take the kid and groom him behind Tony Romo as his teacher for a few years. You couldnt ask for anything better than that.

As if one first round DE is going to make us a SB contender?
 

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I dont understand this line of thinking. IF Romo goes down, we probably dont make the playoffs no matter who we take. Whether it be Goff or a DE or whomever. So how is this a case for NOT taking Goff? Now if Romo goes down and Goff plays half the season, then its great experience for him. Then maybe he can lead us to the playoffs in his 2nd season if Romo goes down again. And then in year 3 he may be ready to take over. Its quite clear that having a great QB is the key to things whether you its Romo or someone else. So why would pass up the opportunity to secure the next Romo for the next 12 years? Is the next year or two more important than the 12 years after that? How can 2 years be more important than 12 years?

Its not like Romo is 30 years old and in great shape. The guy is 36 years old and brittle and injury prone at this point. It simply doesnt make sense.

I agree with both points. If Romo goes down, there is no one out there who will come in and not miss a beat. Yet, it would be nice to have that young stud getting some game reps and experience in that case.

I would rather go defense at #4 mainly because I don't see a can't miss prospect at QB this draft. I really don't like Wentz or Cook and it seems that Goff or Lynch will be the top two. I just don't see them as franchise QB's :(
 

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I agree with both points. If Romo goes down, there is no one out there who will come in and not miss a beat. Yet, it would be nice to have that young stud getting some game reps and experience in that case.

I would rather go defense at #4 mainly because I don't see a can't miss prospect at QB this draft. I really don't like Wentz or Cook and it seems that Goff or Lynch will be the top two. I just don't see them as franchise QB's :(

I really don't see a can't miss defensive prospect.. Bosa, Ramsay,Jack. I rather take my chances on a QB.. Better risk-reward.
 

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I agree with both points. If Romo goes down, there is no one out there who will come in and not miss a beat. Yet, it would be nice to have that young stud getting some game reps and experience in that case.

I would rather go defense at #4 mainly because I don't see a can't miss prospect at QB this draft. I really don't like Wentz or Cook and it seems that Goff or Lynch will be the top two. I just don't see them as franchise QB's :(

I myself don't see a can't miss defensive prospect in the draft. If we are putting that label on a qb, then I myself put in on other positions too.
 

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I myself don't see a can't miss defensive prospect in the draft. If we are putting that label on a qb, then I myself put in on other positions too.

Bosa if he can stay off the ........:laugh:
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I don't have a problem with Bosa, but I would hope he turns out top end. Because if we do take Bosa, we would have a 4th over all in him, a 2nd for Gregory, and a 2nd plus a pick to move up for Lawerance. That is a lot of clout on a defensive end, which is a position that is worth it. But if Bosa doesn't turn out to be a huge play maker and you have to go back to the position with another pick. Ouch.

I agree, and if Dallas drafts him, I sure hope that's how they see him.

So far, the team appears to be on target with Lawrence, but we don't know on Gregory. (In fact, if we did know on Gregory and he didn't have the drug issues that caused him to drop, we probably wouldn't be looking at Bosa.)
 

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I think Lynch is the best of the top 3. Wentz may turn out fine eventually but it's going to take some time for him. I don't like Goff's hand size.

Tony Romo's hand size is 8 7/8, smaller than Goff's. How did that turn out?
 

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Even Demarcus Ware didnt get going until his second year. They can make an impact, but they arent going to dominate. Not likely. And that defense you laid out is nothing special. Average at best if it all stays healthy. Weak secondary and very weak pass rush.

I see an ascending player in Lawrence and a player in Crawford who was very disruptive two years ago but was held back by injury last year,

I see another disruptive player in Bosa, one who can keep the QB uncomfortable and a DT in Butler who has to power to push the pocket but also some quickness to rush the passer.

I think Gregory has the ability to add to that if he can steer clear of weed. However, I will agree that there is a lot of projection involved here so we don't know if that lineup would be special or not.
 

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I agree with both points. If Romo goes down, there is no one out there who will come in and not miss a beat. Yet, it would be nice to have that young stud getting some game reps and experience in that case.

I would rather go defense at #4 mainly because I don't see a can't miss prospect at QB this draft. I really don't like Wentz or Cook and it seems that Goff or Lynch will be the top two. I just don't see them as franchise QB's :(

Now that is a legitimate reason. No way do they take a QB at 4 unless that is your guy. For me, its either take a QB or trade back. Im not impressed with any of these defensive players up high. Half of them are injured anyway.
 

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I see an ascending player in Lawrence and a player in Crawford who was very disruptive two years ago but was held back by injury last year,

I see another disruptive player in Bosa, one who can keep the QB uncomfortable and a DT in Butler who has to power to push the pocket but also some quickness to rush the passer.

I think Gregory has the ability to add to that if he can steer clear of weed. However, I will agree that there is a lot of projection involved here so we don't know if that lineup would be special or not.

I like Lawrence as a great LDE. Crawford up to this point has been average. Our other DT is just plan bad. We have NO one at the other DE position. And if they take Bosa, then you can all but kiss our 2nd round pick goodbye. Im just not impressed with Bosa for a pass rusher. I still think we have a weak pass rush.
 

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Hey guys, if you read the work of Dane Brugler, Broaddus or Dan Turner, you can readily see that the
3 current top QB's of this draft rank well below Bridgewater and others from last years draft. They know
they will be selected early but, they may all bust this year. We need players who can get on the field now
not 3 years from now. Just sayin!
Great point!

The exact reason I don't come close to buying into the whole "we have to go QB at 4" notion.
 
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