Sports Guy: The 2008 NBA Champs will be...

Mavs Man

All outta bubble gum
Messages
4,672
Reaction score
0
Who'll be NBA champs this season? I'm afraid there's only one answer
By Bill Simmons


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/071025&sportCat=nba

If you aren't picking the Spurs to take the 2008 NBA title, your reasoning is simple: They won last year.

You don't care that the Spurs have the best player, best coach and most experience. You don't care that they play so beautifully together, that they didn't lose anyone who matters from last season's team, that they went basically unchallenged last spring except for a brief moment in their series with the Suns. You don't care that no other potential contenders improved except Houston, Boston and maybe Chicago. The Spurs won last season, which means they can't win this season. That's the logic.

Now, there are three types of people who make preseason picks. The first type takes someone other than the best team just for shock value. If I picked Denver over Detroit in the Finals, you'd say, "Wow, the Nuggets? Really?" even as you secretly thought I was a fool. The second wants to avoid picking the favorite, so he weighs all other options and eventually talks himself into choosing someone else. I weaned myself off this habit because it's an easy way to lose money (you know, if gambling were legal). Why talk yourself out of a logical pick just so you can make a less logical one? It's the same mentality that causes women to opt for dangerous guys over safer ones with the potential to be better long-term boyfriends. I know what I have behind Door No. 1; I don't know what I have behind Door No. 2 ... Screw it, let's roll the dice. Door No. 2!

That's the theory informing every Phoenix backer right now. The Suns lost fairly convincingly to San Antonio in the playoffs, then dealt Kurt Thomas, their only big man who could defend Tim Duncan (and by defend I mean hold him under 35 points). Who's guarding Duncan on the 2008 Suns? Stoudemire? Diaw? Puh-leeze. If you're picking the Suns to beat the Spurs, you'd better hope Duncan gets injured or contracts a rare tropical disease by April.

(And while we're here, if you're turning your back on a proven winner for a McGrady-Yao combo with zero playoff success between them, or a Dallas team with the emotional makeup of the Spears clan, or a Celtics team coached by the immortal Doc Rivers, or a Bulls team that's collectively younger than the cast of "Hannah Montana," you deserve what you get.)

So the Spurs are the only logical pick ... unless you're banking on history, the third -- and best -- approach to choosing an NBA champ. For years now, it has been nearly impossible to repeat without a player like MJ or Magic leading the way. After Bill Russell's Celtics captured 11 of 13 titles, another 19 years passed before the Lakers repeated with their luckiest title ever. (Bring up the 1988 Finals to a Pistons fan who has a few drinks in him and see what happens.) Even in a diluted league, the Spurs have won only in alternate years -- 2003, 2005 and 2007, although they came damned close in 2004, the year of Derek Fisher's miracle shot, and 2006, the year of Dirk's three-point play. You need to stay healthy and hungry, need a little luck, need your dominant player to be just that, need to avoid the pitfalls that come with success.

In his book "Showtime," Pat Riley unveiled "the disease of more" and argued that "success is often the first step toward disaster." According to Riley, after the 1980 Lakers won, everyone shifted into a more selfish mode. They had sublimated their respective games to win as a group; now they wanted to reap the rewards as individuals, even if those rewards meant having to spend way too much time at Jack Nicholson's house. Everyone wanted more money, playing time and recognition. Eventually they lost perspective and stopped doing the little things that make teams win and keep winning, eventually imploding in the first round of the postseason. So much for defending the title.

Great concept, greater name: the disease of more. It festers in every sport -- in the 2005 Red Sox, the 2003 Lakers, the 2006 Steelers. I remember watching a montage of Johnny Damon clips with my father before Opening Day 2005 -- Johnny on "Regis and Kelly," Johnny on "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" -- and at some point, Dad turned to me and said, "There's no way we're winning this year." Once you get caught up in everything that comes with winning, you stop winning. Rarely does a team avoid pettiness, acrimony and self-flagellation to stay focused enough to repeat. You need a great coach and a greater star to keep everyone in line, and you need character guys up and down the roster.

The Spurs have all those elements in place, so the disease of more shouldn't sidetrack them. (If Eva turns Tony Parker into a celebrity diva, all bets are off.) Russell, though, discussed an even bigger obstacle in his autobiography, "Second Wind": "It's much harder to keep a championship than to win one ... You can't rely on the same drive that makes people climb mountains for the first time; winning isn't new anymore."

That makes sense whether you're talking about players, coaches or fans. When the Sox were trying to win in 2003 and 2004, it felt like life-or-death to me. Three years later, I found myself just as caught up in October, but a small piece was missing -- every game carried urgency and tension, only that life-or-death component had vanished. As much as I wanted the Sox to keep winning, my life wasn't going to fall apart if they lost, because they'd already won in 2004. Oddly, it was somewhat liberating to watch these 2007 playoffs. I found myself thinking about how great it would be if they kept winning, not how painful it would be if they lost.

Which makes me wonder how TD and the Spurs get psyched for another 100-game grind. How do they keep tapping into that hunger when it's already been sated? The Bulls never let up because MJ wouldn't let them. Boston never let up because Russell wouldn't let them. What's driving the Spurs? Duncan and Popovich love winning, but they aren't puking before big games like Russell did, and they certainly aren't suffering from Jordan's severe competitive disorder (we learned this for sure in 2004 and 2006). Meanwhile, Nash is Robert De Niro at the end of "Midnight Run." Helicopters are flying over him, he's about to lose the Duke, his demeanor is hardening as the clock ticks down on his mission -- or in Nash's case, his prime -- and he looks at those choppers and mutters, "I've come too far; I've come too [bleeping] far ... "

So here's a scenario that isn't far-fetched: A faster, hungrier Suns team goes small in the Western finals, conceding Duncan's 35/15 every night to force a breakneck pace that doesn't quite suit the more talented and slightly less hungry Spurs. Nash raises them to another level because he wants it more than anyone else. Conceivable, right?

Unfortunately for Suns fans, it's not nearly as conceivable as the alternative: Duncan rules, and the better all-around team prevails. It's the boring pick, the logical pick, but as much as we hate to admit it, sometimes sports is boring and logical. That's why I'm going with the Spurs over the Bulls in five, and that's why, eight months from now, you won't even remember that I was right.
 

thekavorka

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,787
Reaction score
34
There is one team that can beat the Spurs in the playoffs :D

Let's just hope we don't have to face an athletic team like GSW or Phoenix.
 

MC KAos

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,500
Reaction score
39
thekavorka;1729842 said:
There is one team that can beat the Spurs in the playoffs :D

Let's just hope we don't have to face an athletic team like GSW or Phoenix.


by we do you the spurs or some other team you root for? because if your talking about the spurs you might wanna check the record the spurs have against the suns and warriors
 

MC KAos

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,500
Reaction score
39
oh ok, there are many teams that could beat the mavs in the playoffs. golden state and phoenix with a repeat of what happened last year. utah and houston would pound that sissy excuse of a PF back to germany with boozer and scola/yao. its gonna be tough for the mavs this year, you better hope they get a favorable first round matchup so they can get on a roll. remember, only two out of the three texas teams can get top four seeds, that means that there is a good chance two of them will be playing in the first round, you better hope its not the mavs
 

03EBZ06

Need2Speed
Messages
7,984
Reaction score
411
I wouldn't be surprised if Spurs won another one this season. I'm a huge Lakers fan but Spurs organization is very classy and I'm a fan of Tim Duncan and Gregg Popovich so if Lakers isn't able to win it (and they won't) then I'll be pulling for Spurs.
 

thekavorka

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,787
Reaction score
34
MC KAos;1730362 said:
oh ok, there are many teams that could beat the mavs in the playoffs. golden state and phoenix with a repeat of what happened last year. utah and houston would pound that sissy excuse of a PF back to germany with boozer and scola/yao. its gonna be tough for the mavs this year, you better hope they get a favorable first round matchup so they can get on a roll. remember, only two out of the three texas teams can get top four seeds, that means that there is a good chance two of them will be playing in the first round, you better hope its not the mavs

I think the mavs can beat utah and houston. We match up pretty well with them. The only teams the mavs have trouble against are the teams that run up and down the court like phoenix and golden state.
 

Nors

Benched
Messages
22,015
Reaction score
1
Just back from the Garden,
Celts just crushed the Cleveland Cavs and Lebron. Garnett is a total beast. Triple double, can shoot deep, drive and score, rebound, pass the ball and plays great team defense and shot blocker.

Then there is Ray Allen draining dagger 3 pointers from everywhere. And he too can hurt you off dribble and finish. Pierce almost now the third option.

The place was sold out and electric, hasn't been like that since 1980's for Boston Basketball. They might give the West a run for it this year.




NBA Game Summary - Cleveland at Boston



(Friday, October 26th)
Final Score: Boston 114, Cleveland 89

Boston, MA (Sports Network) - Kevin Garnett had 21 points, 13 rebounds and 10 assists as the Boston Celtics posted seven different players in double figures on their way to a 114-89 victory over the Cleveland Cavaliers in the preseason finale for both teams.

Ray Allen had 20 points, Paul Pierce had 12 and six assists, and Eddie House came off the bench to contribute 16 on 3-of-4 shooting from three-point range. Kendrick Perkins finished with 11 points, while Rajon Rondo and James Posey chipped in 10 apiece for the Celtics, who open their regular season at home against the Washington Wizards on November 2.
 

SA_Gunslinger

Official CZ Ea-girls hater
Messages
4,788
Reaction score
0
speaking of the spurs....i get to be there on tuesday night to see the new bling!!!!

i think mavs fans should go, so they could understand how silly their conference and division banners are.

:laugh2:
 

jimmy40

Well-Known Member
Messages
16,866
Reaction score
1,888
Nors;1731052 said:
Garnett is a total beast. Triple double, can shoot deep, drive and score, rebound, pass the ball and plays great team defense and shot blocker.
Well, at least now he'll have someone to pass the ball to when an important game is on the line.
 

MC KAos

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,500
Reaction score
39
Nors;1731052 said:
Just back from the Garden,
Celts just crushed the Cleveland Cavs and Lebron. Garnett is a total beast. Triple double, can shoot deep, drive and score, rebound, pass the ball and plays great team defense and shot blocker.

Then there is Ray Allen draining dagger 3 pointers from everywhere. And he too can hurt you off dribble and finish. Pierce almost now the third option.

The place was sold out and electric, hasn't been like that since 1980's for Boston Basketball. They might give the West a run for it this year.




NBA Game Summary - Cleveland at Boston



(Friday, October 26th)
Final Score: Boston 114, Cleveland 89

Boston, MA (Sports Network) - Kevin Garnett had 21 points, 13 rebounds and 10 assists as the Boston Celtics posted seven different players in double figures on their way to a 114-89 victory over the Cleveland Cavaliers in the preseason finale for both teams.

Ray Allen had 20 points, Paul Pierce had 12 and six assists, and Eddie House came off the bench to contribute 16 on 3-of-4 shooting from three-point range. Kendrick Perkins finished with 11 points, while Rajon Rondo and James Posey chipped in 10 apiece for the Celtics, who open their regular season at home against the Washington Wizards on November 2.

and then you realized they were playing a preseason game

phillycowboyslover;1734035 said:
speaking of the spurs....i get to be there on tuesday night to see the new bling!!!!

i think mavs fans should go, so they could understand how silly their conference and division banners are.

:laugh2:

ya i was at the game too, i liked the little miniature paintings they gave out before the game, or whatever they are. i got some really crappy seats tho, i was in the NE corner so i couldnt see the banner being unveiled, i had to watch it on the big screen.
 
Top