SS Roy Williams in '08

[DallasEast]

There are many opinions about how good, bad or average Roy Williams has been throughout his Cowboys career. This has been repeatedly discussed, but what if Williams had a great '08 season? Neither bad, average nor good, but a great, no-question-about-it, acknowledged-by-all, season playing strong safety.

In your opinion, would he finally vindicate himself as being a very good player despite how you viewed his past level of play (i.e. some were right about him all along and some have been equally wrong about him)? Or would you see his great season as solely being a by-product of Wade Phillips' scheme (i.e. Roy = system player whose talent didn't directly contribute to his great play in '08)? Or would you look upon his great season as pure luck (i.e. Roy = blind squirrel gets nut, yada yada yada)?

 

[Sarge]

DUCK!

 

[AsthmaField]

In order to quieten his critics in this forum, he would have to be overwhelmingly spectacular.

 

[DallasEast]

DUCK!

 

[DallasEast]

In order to quieten his critics in this forum, he would have to be overwhelmingly spectacular.

IMO, that's doubtful, which is why I added the second and third hypotheticals.

 

[Rampage]

he has no heart and passion for it anymore. I doubt he has a great season and hopefully jerry will give up on this pipe dream he has when it comes to Roy.

 

[DallasEast]

he has no heart and passion for it anymore. I doubt he has a great season and hopefully jerry will give up on this pipe dream he has when it comes to Roy.

Okay. Summation. In your opinion, Roy has no heart or passion. You think it's unlikely that he'll have a great season and you hope that Jones releases him after '08.

Fair enough, but do you have any thoughts whatsoever concerning the thread question?

 

[Rampage]

Okay. Summation. In your opinion, Roy has no heart or passion. You think it's unlikely that he'll have a great season and you hope that Jones releases him after '08.

Fair enough, but do you have any thoughts whatsoever concerning the thread question?

if he had a great season i would be thrilled and give him major props. he would help this team by so much if he got back to his old form. if he had a great season it wouldn't be the scheme or anything like that it would be because of him. it would be because he grew a pair and he's playing with heart and passion. instead he plays nervous and scared football like he did last year.

 

[DallasEast]

if he had a great season i would be thrilled and give him major props. he would help this team by so much if he got back to his old form. if he had a great season it wouldn't be the scheme or anything like that it would be because of him. it would be because he grew a pair and he's playing with heart and passion. instead he plays nervous and scared football like he did last year.

Thanks for the reply, but the part in red...

huh?

 

[Rampage]

Thanks for the reply, but the part in red...

huh?

nervous and scared of messing up/giving up a play. he reads the papers and watches his critics on tv and they get in his head.

 

[Sarge]

Thanks for the reply, but the part in red...

huh?

I don't mean to speak for Rampage but I think he is saying Roy is playing with very little confidence and trying not to make mistakes instead of reading and reacting............

 

[DallasEast]

I don't mean to speak for Rampage but I think he is saying Roy is playing with very little confidence and trying not to make mistakes instead of reading and reacting............

Well, I'm not going to disagree on a opinion of how Williams has played, but that's no guarantee that will happen this season. Of course, if someone can guarantee that'll happen, my next question to the forecaster would be, "Are you any good with Powerball numbers"?

 

[Rampage]

I don't mean to speak for Rampage but I think he is saying Roy is playing with very little confidence and trying not to make mistakes instead of reading and reacting............

that's exactly what i meant. thanks sarge

 

[Sarge]

that's exactly what i meant. thanks sarge

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[DallasEast]

that's exactly what i meant. thanks sarge

I know you haven't guaranteed anything, but are you any good with Powerball numbers?

 

[iceberg]

he has no heart and passion for it anymore. I doubt he has a great season and hopefully jerry will give up on this pipe dream he has when it comes to Roy.

did you give up on that mcfadden pipe dream?

 

[Rampage]

did you give up on that mcfadden pipe dream?

you don't hear about him from me anymore, do you?

 

[iceberg]

you don't hear about him from me anymore, do you?

but as long as it was remotely possible, i heard you every chance you could get.

roy isn't going anywhere. no journalist is going to write a grandnugget that will get rid of him and no matter how much the bashers punish the masses in here, he won't go anywhere.

i just wish the bashing would take a break for awhile and find something else to whine about.

 

[sago1]

If Roy has a great season in 08, I would be thrilled but totally surprised. And I'd be more then willing to come on this board and say Roy had a great season. Must admit before I'd do that, I'd also want to assure myself (Breers' game analysis 1-2 days after the game would answer that question) the game film doesn't show Zack Thomas or any other player repeatedly breaking up the play/made the big tackle which Roy should have made.

 

[DallasEast]

but as long as it was remotely possible, i heard you every chance you could get.

roy isn't going anywhere. no journalist is going to write a grandnugget that will get rid of him and no matter how much the bashers punish the masses in here, he won't go anywhere.

i just wish the bashing would take a break for awhile and find something else to whine about.

Exactly, although I do appreciate Rampage eventually giving his opinion of the thread question.