Stanback's Shoulder Injury

[jobberone]

After watching the hit and fall that caused Stanback's injury and hearing Wade discuss the injury on Hard Knocks, I'm sorry to say that we may have seen the last of Stanback this year.

After hearing Wade discuss the injury last year I'm afraid we may not see Stanback until next year.

His injury is to the same shoulder as last year. As Eskimo said, once you have a dislocation you are at higher risk to have another. Some people have a joint that will dislocate easier than normal; much easier in another subgroup. His fall to the turf wasn't particularly traumatic. Most people wouldn't have dislocated their shoulder with that fall. Put that together with the same problem last year and you get the impression he's in that subgroup of people whose shoulder dislocates easily. Without examining him I'm speculating but its an educated guess.

My guess is he's going to need a surgery to try and tighten the joint. Ten years ago that surgery wasn't particularly sucessful. I'll have to ask some questions to find out where we are with that kind of surgery now.

I'd guess this year is over and it's not unlikely that his career as a football player may be over.

Hope I'm wrong.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

hate to say this, esp. to a poster such as yourself

but

chicken little

 

[dougonthebench]

After watching the hit and fall that caused Stanback's injury and hearing Wade discuss the injury on Hard Knocks, I'm sorry to say that we may have seen the last of Stanback this year.

After hearing Wade discuss the injury last year I'm afraid we may not see Stanback until next year.

His injury is to the same shoulder as last year. As Eskimo said, once you have a dislocation you are at higher risk to have another. Some people have a joint that will dislocate easier than normal; much easier in another subgroup. His fall to the turf wasn't particularly traumatic. Most people wouldn't have dislocated their shoulder with that fall. Put that together with the same problem last year and you get the impression he's in that subgroup of people whose shoulder dislocates easily. Without examining him I'm speculating but its an educated guess.

My guess is he's going to need a surgery to try and tighten the joint. Ten years ago that surgery wasn't particularly sucessful. I'll have to ask some questions to find out where we are with that kind of surgery now.

I'd guess this year is over and it's not unlikely that his career as a football player may be over.

Hope I'm wrong.

I hope you're wrong too.I'd love to see him play,....and the sooner the better.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

After watching the hit and fall that caused Stanback's injury and hearing Wade discuss the injury on Hard Knocks, I'm sorry to say that we may have seen the last of Stanback this year.

After hearing Wade discuss the injury last year I'm afraid we may not see Stanback until next year.

His injury is to the same shoulder as last year. As Eskimo said, once you have a dislocation you are at higher risk to have another. Some people have a joint that will dislocate easier than normal; much easier in another subgroup. His fall to the turf wasn't particularly traumatic. Most people wouldn't have dislocated their shoulder with that fall. Put that together with the same problem last year and you get the impression he's in that subgroup of people whose shoulder dislocates easily. Without examining him I'm speculating but its an educated guess.

My guess is he's going to need a surgery to try and tighten the joint. Ten years ago that surgery wasn't particularly sucessful. I'll have to ask some questions to find out where we are with that kind of surgery now.

I'd guess this year is over and it's not unlikely that his career as a football player may be over.

Hope I'm wrong.

I'd run some more tests, doctor. What does the rest of the medical staff say?

 

[superpunk]

Interesting thoughts. Thanks.

I'll go consult my medical journals (WebMD, Google) and let you know what I come up with. But I have a feeling you might be closer to the truth.

 

[Pick6TerenceNewman]

After watching the hit and fall that caused Stanback's injury and hearing Wade discuss the injury on Hard Knocks, I'm sorry to say that we may have seen the last of Stanback this year.

After hearing Wade discuss the injury last year I'm afraid we may not see Stanback until next year.

His injury is to the same shoulder as last year. As Eskimo said, once you have a dislocation you are at higher risk to have another. Some people have a joint that will dislocate easier than normal; much easier in another subgroup. His fall to the turf wasn't particularly traumatic. Most people wouldn't have dislocated their shoulder with that fall. Put that together with the same problem last year and you get the impression he's in that subgroup of people whose shoulder dislocates easily. Without examining him I'm speculating but its an educated guess.

My guess is he's going to need a surgery to try and tighten the joint. Ten years ago that surgery wasn't particularly sucessful. I'll have to ask some questions to find out where we are with that kind of surgery now.

I'd guess this year is over and it's not unlikely that his career as a football player may be over.

Hope I'm wrong.

I agree with you!

 

[rtrn2zn]

Did he say he would have to wear a harness to play the season. Can't say I'm in love with a marginal receiver that turns the ball over wearing a harness. Then again maybe he can tuck the ball into the harness or something and not turn it over. Maybe Jerry will let him sew a big pocket on it. I think if he was going to have the surgery he would have done so already. Maybe they are holding off on his treatment/status until 53 man rosters to see if there are another couple of receivers they can bring in before they put him on the IR and get the surgery done. No signings at 53 man cuts, and Superstan plays with the harness. Watching him run it looks like he learned how to tuck the ball away from old film of Crayton returning punts.

 

[stealth]

I have some experience with shoulder injuries, my right shoulder is crunching as I type this, its a pain thing for his position I should think. If he can deal with the pain I think he will be okay.

 

[stealth]

Did he say he would have to wear a harness to play the season. Can't say I'm in love with a marginal receiver that turns the ball over wearing a harness. Then again maybe he can tuck the ball into the harness or something and not turn it over. Maybe Jerry will let him sew a big pocket on it. I think if he was going to have the surgery he would have done so already. Maybe they are holding off on his treatment/status until 53 man rosters to see if there are another couple of receivers they can bring in before they put him on the IR and get the surgery done. No signings at 53 man cuts, and Superstan plays with the harness. Watching him run it looks like he learned how to tuck the ball away from old film of Crayton returning punts.

one fumble on a play he got injured on and you label him fumble prone?

 

[rtrn2zn]

Well, its not like he returned 50 kicks in his career. He carries the ball actively and a bit away from his body, once again, it reminds me of Crayton a little bit, especially Crayton returning punts a couple of years ago. Its generally something that people improve on but if he continues to carry the ball the way he does, statistically he will turn it over more often. Add a harness artificially limiting the motion of his arm to the equation and the fact that he his turning it over in the worst part of the field possible and it makes me uncomfortable.

Basically, as exciting as he is, with the other returners available, I don't see a need to keep him out of surgery just to return kicks, it has to be as a WR, which gets to the core portion of my initial post, if we bring in somebody from another roster, Stanback goes to the IR, if we don't he goes to the harness.

 

[Hostile]

Folks, jobberone is a Medical Doctor and qualified to give a medical opinion on this.

 

[stealth]

Folks, jobberone is a Medical Doctor and qualified to give a medical opinion on this.

is he really?


hey jobberone, can you tell me what this rash is? it only started after I spent the day with superpunk

 

[TheCount]

His career? Well that would be a major downer considering where we took him and players we've passed on (and could pass on in future) to keep him.

I played basketball and had a mild shoulder seperation once (went up for a rebound and ended up getting my arm bent the wrong way) and it bothered me for the rest of the year but I didn't miss any time.

About a month ago, I was playing volleyball, ended up with my arm over my head again (this time no one pulling on it) and I felt the same numbness and sharp pain I felt years ago when it got separated.

So yeah, these things don't really go away. If I clench the muscles in my shoulder a certain way, it still pops even.

 

[zrinkill]

is he really?


hey jobberone, can you tell me what this rash is? it only started after I spent the day with superpunk

Norwegian Goat Butt herpes

there is no cure.

 

[jobberone]

Well, I said I was speculating and I hadn't examined him. I'm also not privy to any other information. But when it's all said and done, after all the CTs and MRIs as well as repeated exams, you still have to make an educated guess as to whether or not he's going to dislocate it again not to mention

Additionally, even with MRs and examination, you still can't say for sure there aren't concomitant injuries. As Eskimo said you can get injuries to the labrum and you can also tear the rotator cuff among more things that can be injured.

In someone like you and me, they would just wait awhile and ask us to be patient and careful. With Stanback you are faced with the problem of not having time on your side making decisions. The Cowboys want to know if they can count on him this year and soon enough to make roster decisions.

You can't say with certainty, but I'd guess he'll go on IR because of the numbers crunch at WR and the need to have a healthy body at #4 this year.

I really hope my worries are unfounded. Stanback would be an asset at KR, STs, 4th WR, and situational player.

 

[superpunk]

The goat told me he was clean - I swear.

 

[adbutcher]

Well, I said I was speculating and I hadn't examined him. I'm also not privy to any other information. But when it's all said and done, after all the CTs and MRIs as well as repeated exams, you still have to make an educated guess as to whether or not he's going to dislocate it again not to mention

Additionally, even with MRs and examination, you still can't say for sure there aren't concomitant injuries. As Eskimo said you can get injuries to the labrum and you can also tear the rotator cuff among more things that can be injured.

In someone like you and me, they would just wait awhile and ask us to be patient and careful. With Stanback you are faced with the problem of not having time on your side making decisions. The Cowboys want to know if they can count on him this year and soon enough to make roster decisions.

You can't say with certainty, but I'd guess he'll go on IR because of the numbers crunch at WR and the need to have a healthy body at #4 this year.

I really hope my worries are unfounded. Stanback would be an asset at KR, STs, 4th WR, and situational player.

Dang, that is some depressing news. I look for toward your investigation regarding current shoulder repair advancements.

 

[stealth]

The goat told me he was clean - I swear.

just like he told you he was over 18 huh?

 

[superpunk]

just like he told you he was over 18 huh?

False.

If I had known that, I never would have slept with him.

 

[superpunk]

^^^^^^ Mem'ries.