Starting DL Without Micah

Smith22 said:
You see the players we were using at corner last year?

Last year was awful for a million reasons, and Micah isn't one of them.
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Corners are not positions designed to stop the run. Their primary job is to stop the pass. Just saying.
 
CCBoy said:
Now isn't that manly...you have some doubts and no explanation beyond just that. Must be 'holy' graile here and a deep set of love for football.

Just can't wait for 4 Sep to see ... huh. :popcorn:
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I guess Fowler's 10 sacks last year without any better players on his defensive line that helped funnel sacks to him on NFC championship team, he's kind of lost on this guy... The fact is he's not watching Houston play either But above average yes we have some.... Yes we need Parsons but I think we have a lot of depth at defensive end ,and I don't know why he doesn't believe that, but it's OK...

I mean think about that Dan Quinn goes and uses our backups and Armstrong and Fowler as starters over there but when we have Fowler back over here he's not starter quality apparently he's not above average... Was that any different than us looking at say Sam Williams or Houston or Eazy E being above average the fact is he took two backups and made them his starters....lmao
 
blueblood70 said:
I guess Fowler's 10 sacks last year without any better players on his defensive line that helped funnel sacks to him on NFC championship team, he's kind of lost on this guy... The fact is he's not watching Houston play either But above average yes we have some.... Yes we need Parsons but I think we have a lot of depth at defensive end ,and I don't know why he doesn't believe that, but it's OK...

I mean think about that Dan Quinn goes and uses our backups and Armstrong and Fowler as starters over there but when we have Fowler back over here he's not starter quality apparently he's not above average... Was that any different than us looking at say Sam Williams or Houston or Eazy E being above average the fact is he took two backups and made them his starters....lmao
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Team defense is always better than, a 1 man defense. It does not matter how much you pay the 1 guy.
 
Chasing6 said:
Team defense is always better than, a 1 man defense. It does not matter how much you pay the 1 guy.
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How about this you get the benefit of both It's not like they can't afford Parsons that that's what you're getting at They have like $33 million right now in cap space they're not using therefore they sign him it might even get better it's not holding us back..

I don't want to envision this defense without Parsons but yeah I mean as a group I can see Matt having this team defense looking really good swarming tackling physical But we need Parsons to be more dynamic because that guy gets so much attention that these other players are elevated their stats are gonna go up they're gonna get bigger plays out of it....
 
blueblood70 said:
How about this you get the benefit of both It's not like they can't afford Parsons that that's what you're getting at They have like $33 million right now in cap space they're not using therefore they sign him it might even get better it's not holding us back..

I don't want to envision this defense without Parsons but yeah I mean as a group I can see Matt having this team defense looking really good swarming tackling physical But we need Parsons to be more dynamic because that guy gets so much attention that these other players are elevated their stats are gonna go up they're gonna get bigger plays out of it....
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If you can't stop the run, a $42M pass rusher is basically useless.
 
Chasing6 said:
If you can't stop the run, a $42M pass rusher is basically useless.
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Look you're entitled to your opinion and maybe it makes sense when you say that out loud but we've talked about this first of all we don't know the number and second of all TJ Watt is allegedly a better player but he's lost four straight playoff games this Pittsburgh Steelers have lost seven straight playoff games and yet they paid him Same thing with Miles Garrett and at one time Joey Bosa all on teams that weren't going very far in the playoffs for whatever reason they weren't getting it done that doesn't mean you let go of your best players...

Debbie Like saying you don't keep Barry Sanders around through the end of his career with the Lions even though he wanted to stay with the Lions 'cause it didn't make sense the rest of the team sucks so you might as well have got rid of him too...

unfortunately, that's not how it works. Do everything you can to keep your best players who usually are the better players in the NFL those are hard to find...

Totally get your argument but if they were going to do that they had to go back to last year not sign Lamb, Which would mean you didn't need to sign Prescott ,you let Prescott walk ,you trade Lamb ,you trade diggs, you trade Parsons, you trade Smith ,And then you start from scratch and you blow it all up but once you make those moves now you got to sign them all you have that small window open and that's what you're hoping for to do something inside that window And Parsons would be a big part of that..

He realized all the moves that have been made since last year's offseason and now this year's offseason they signed Ferguson they signed OSA and You trade for Pickens ... It it's now imperative that you get Parsons back on this team..IMHO.

Weve Already been through all this argument about getting draft capital and how that would be better for the Cowboys and what not but that would be if those draft picks worked out if you can't find another Parsons and you end up with another Taco or another Mazi or an average player like Schoonmaker or something like that I mean you don't know how those draft picks would help your team..
 
blueblood70 said:
Look you're entitled to your opinion and maybe it makes sense when you say that out loud but we've talked about this first of all we don't know the number and second of all TJ Watt is allegedly a better player but he's lost four straight playoff games this Pittsburgh Steelers have lost seven straight playoff games and yet they paid him Same thing with Miles Garrett and at one time Joey Bosa all on teams that weren't going very far in the playoffs for whatever reason they weren't getting it done that doesn't mean you let go of your best players...

Debbie Like saying you don't keep Barry Sanders around through the end of his career with the Lions even though he wanted to stay with the Lions 'cause it didn't make sense the rest of the team sucks so you might as well have got rid of him too...

unfortunately, that's not how it works. Do everything you can to keep your best players who usually are the better players in the NFL those are hard to find...

Totally get your argument but if they were going to do that they had to go back to last year not sign Lamb, Which would mean you didn't need to sign Prescott ,you let Prescott walk ,you trade Lamb ,you trade diggs, you trade Parsons, you trade Smith ,And then you start from scratch and you blow it all up but once you make those moves now you got to sign them all you have that small window open and that's what you're hoping for to do something inside that window And Parsons would be a big part of that..

He realized all the moves that have been made since last year's offseason and now this year's offseason they signed Ferguson they signed OSA and You trade for Pickens ... It it's now imperative that you get Parsons back on this team..IMHO.

Weve Already been through all this argument about getting draft capital and how that would be better for the Cowboys and what not but that would be if those draft picks worked out if you can't find another Parsons and you end up with another Taco or another Mazi or an average player like Schoonmaker or something like that I mean you don't know how those draft picks would help your team..
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I thought the name of the game was to win? If SB teams year after year don't have $40M pass rushers on them, then that is not the secret sauce to winning.

We have been told forever what they key positions are in football. QB, LT, DE, CB, etc. I agree they are all important, but who said you have to have the highest paid one to win???

This is why Jerry believes it is a passing league. The NFL is not baseball. The game changes.

Good GM's and Coaches, build and exploit other teams weaknesses. When you have all your resources tied up into 3 to 4 players, you can't exploit anything

Then we have GM Jethro who has the exact same approach, for every game, every week and every year.

I can see it now, it must be very difficult for a team to game plan against us. I am sure they can use the same game plan from 4 years ago.

Back in the 90's, we could tell the defense what play we were running and they could still not stop it. That is how good the Cowboys were in the 90's. Defenses actually had to choose how they preferred to lose the game, because you could not stop all aspects of our team.

Those days are over in the salary cap era. Now it takes strategy, adjustments, changes. First and foremost, your team has to be built to win its division. We did nothing to slow down Barkley this off season. Maybe we are praying for a season ending injury.
 
Bobhaze said:
Yeah the self imposed soap opera is depressing. But if you sift through the fog of the Jones powered smoke machine, the truth is (in my view) we have a mediocre roster.

Hate to say it but if I’m being as completely objective as I can be, this team has major holes in its roster. The DT and RB positions are full of below average players in areas where we knew going into the season were problems.

We are not only not better at those positions, we maybe searching trades and the waiver wire before the opening night in Philly.

I will happily be wrong if this team is more than I see. But I can’t pretend we are something we aren’t.
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We’re not only not better, we might actually be worse off at those positions than last year.

I don’t see how any of these guys are better than Rico and DT is a joke as per the norm
 
DallasDW00ds0n said:
We’re not only not better, we might actually be worse off at those positions than last year.

I don’t see how any of these guys are better than Rico and DT is a joke as per the norm
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They are better than Zeke and he started what the first 4 or 5 games.

The OLine will be better, which makes the RB group better by default.
 
Sanders is this years Zeke. He should be moved along for a younger player.
 
blueblood70 said:
Look you're entitled to your opinion and maybe it makes sense when you say that out loud but we've talked about this first of all we don't know the number and second of all TJ Watt is allegedly a better player but he's lost four straight playoff games this Pittsburgh Steelers have lost seven straight playoff games and yet they paid him Same thing with Miles Garrett and at one time Joey Bosa all on teams that weren't going very far in the playoffs for whatever reason they weren't getting it done that doesn't mean you let go of your best players...

Debbie Like saying you don't keep Barry Sanders around through the end of his career with the Lions even though he wanted to stay with the Lions 'cause it didn't make sense the rest of the team sucks so you might as well have got rid of him too...

unfortunately, that's not how it works. Do everything you can to keep your best players who usually are the better players in the NFL those are hard to find...

Totally get your argument but if they were going to do that they had to go back to last year not sign Lamb, Which would mean you didn't need to sign Prescott ,you let Prescott walk ,you trade Lamb ,you trade diggs, you trade Parsons, you trade Smith ,And then you start from scratch and you blow it all up but once you make those moves now you got to sign them all you have that small window open and that's what you're hoping for to do something inside that window And Parsons would be a big part of that..

He realized all the moves that have been made since last year's offseason and now this year's offseason they signed Ferguson they signed OSA and You trade for Pickens ... It it's now imperative that you get Parsons back on this team..IMHO.

Weve Already been through all this argument about getting draft capital and how that would be better for the Cowboys and what not but that would be if those draft picks worked out if you can't find another Parsons and you end up with another Taco or another Mazi or an average player like Schoonmaker or something like that I mean you don't know how those draft picks would help your team..
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Otherwise there is a five year turn around and a huge gamble to overcome inertias of top shelf team dominance.

The Catch 22 being, and still is, this is football and still designed to have a chance. That takes loyalties all the way to include fans!

Good insight...with no perverts walking free!
 
America's Cowboy said:
Kneeland sucks. Dude is another waste.

Here is my starting front 4 from left to right:

Dante Fowler Jr, Perrion Winfrey, Osa Odighizuwa, James Houston.
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I agree, Kneeland has done absolutely nothing to warrant a starting spot. I don’t understand why everyone is penciling him in as the starter. I think Fowler will be used as a pass rush specialist on passing downs. Houston has definitely earned a chance to play. I also want to see if Williams is ready to contribute as well. He didn’t look that great in preseason. Houston out played him by a mile.
 
Stak78 said:
I agree, Kneeland has done absolutely nothing to warrant a starting spot. I don’t understand why everyone is penciling him in as the starter. I think Fowler will be used as a pass rush specialist on passing downs. Houston has definitely earned a chance to play. I also want to see if Williams is ready to contribute as well. He didn’t look that great in preseason. Houston out played him by a mile.
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Definitely and if I was putting together the team which I'm not it is Fowler and Parsons starting and then you try to mix in Houston and the rest... I mean we need all of them and they'll be put in packages and rotations for certain offensive looks but yeah anybody thinks Fowler's not a starters not been paying attention he was a starter last year on an NFC championship Washington team and he had 10 sacks he didn't even have much help to have that happen because he wasn't a backup like he was here he was it he was the guy for washington and yet someone's saying he can't do it here.....

People are dismissing Houston as well and I don't get it that dude has done nothing but show that he's passed his injury and he's coming back into form and he could be a very good player in this league so he'd be my 3rd guy in on a pass rushing anyway but he looks like he goes after the runner as well he reminds me of tank I mean he looks like he has the same game as Demarcus Lawrence...

You probably won't produce a ton of sacks but he plays a solid edge all around..
 
Chasing6 said:
I thought the name of the game was to win? If SB teams year after year don't have $40M pass rushers on them, then that is not the secret sauce to winning.

We have been told forever what they key positions are in football. QB, LT, DE, CB, etc. I agree they are all important, but who said you have to have the highest paid one to win???

This is why Jerry believes it is a passing league. The NFL is not baseball. The game changes.

Good GM's and Coaches, build and exploit other teams weaknesses. When you have all your resources tied up into 3 to 4 players, you can't exploit anything

Then we have GM Jethro who has the exact same approach, for every game, every week and every year.

I can see it now, it must be very difficult for a team to game plan against us. I am sure they can use the same game plan from 4 years ago.

Back in the 90's, we could tell the defense what play we were running and they could still not stop it. That is how good the Cowboys were in the 90's. Defenses actually had to choose how they preferred to lose the game, because you could not stop all aspects of our team.

Those days are over in the salary cap era. Now it takes strategy, adjustments, changes. First and foremost, your team has to be built to win its division. We did nothing to slow down Barkley this off season. Maybe we are praying for a season ending injury.
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If you don't think Parsons gives us a better chance to win right now in this short window with the rest of these guys we just signed that you don't know what you're talking about....

Get the whole other side of the debate but you're wrong in this situation he makes our team better last year when he was out it was horrible when he got back it immediately showed the defense somehow got back on track until they lost more guys he makes an immediate impact....
 
blueblood70 said:
If you don't think Parsons gives us a better chance to win right now in this short window with the rest of these guys we just signed that you don't know what you're talking about....

Get the whole other side of the debate but you're wrong in this situation he makes our team better last year when he was out it was horrible when he got back it immediately showed the defense somehow got back on track until they lost more guys he makes an immediate impact....
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The second half of our schedule was soft.
 
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