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State of the DT position

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by thunderpimp91, Mar 23, 2022.

  1. TheGoat73

    TheGoat73 Well-Known Member

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    With our OL depth, that’s how it should work.
     
  2. Big_D

    Big_D Well-Known Member

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    And the clear eye view! The brand had huge potential.
     
  3. Cowboysheelsreds053

    Cowboysheelsreds053 Well-Known Member

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    Davis not seeing 24 unless it comes out he has murdered someone.
     
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  4. Oz-of-Cowboy-Country

    Oz-of-Cowboy-Country Well-Known Member

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    Piss poor lunge length or too light in the arse is the reason. Linemen have to extend and reach for the ball carrier as he tries to pass them. If the frame of their bodies is short, then their reach is short. So our DT's are too short and our DE's are too light in the arse.

    Bohanna and Urban are 6'4"or better, but they are the only two. And none of our DE's weigh 270 pounds. Our defensive line is built to get after the passer, not stop the run.

    Stopping the run and making a team one dimensional is the easiest thing to do. As long as your built for it.


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    Dallas wants quick off the ball defensive linemen. Well if a DL is quick off the ball, 100 % of the time, then he's trying to out maneuver the guy in front of him. Which leads to some nice size holes for the ball carrier. So the style of defense they want to play is the real problem in stopping the run. Because they're bringing in players that suit their style.
     
  5. Mr_437

    Mr_437 Well-Known Member

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    You just described the future of the WR position.

    On topic, It would be huge if Bohanna could make a jump, but I'm not expecting that. Just staying the same as last year is giving up.
     
  6. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    As I said, I'd rather fix the OL in free agent. The team can still find a starting guard relatively cheap. It cannot find a stud DT at this point in FA and certainly not for cheap.
     
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  7. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    Yeah, I don't know. I just took a quick look at a couple of rankings to see if there were any DTs near our range and the ones I saw had Davis at 18 and Wyatt before Davis in one and after Davis in the other.
     
  8. kskboys

    kskboys Well-Known Member

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    There is a salary cap min, and Texans have to pay someone.
     
  9. kskboys

    kskboys Well-Known Member

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    6-4/300 is rather slim for a DT. You must look at height/weight ration. Most good run stoppers are of the 6-0 to 6-3/320 variety. It's about build.

    And we have a bunch of 3 techs on the roster, not the 1 tech run stopping type. Bohanna is the only one, and he may be no more than a backup.
     
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  10. AbeBeta

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    Double down on that hindsight.
     
  11. kskboys

    kskboys Well-Known Member

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    Unless you want to play in the super bowl, then you need stud DTs
     
  12. Aerolithe_Lion

    Aerolithe_Lion Well-Known Member

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    this may come as a surprise, but Dallas hasn’t taken a DT in the first round in 30 years. It’s just not a Jerry Jones-valued position.
     
  13. Oz-of-Cowboy-Country

    Oz-of-Cowboy-Country Well-Known Member

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    Not true. Keep reading.

    The Patriots built a 20 year dynasty and most of us can only name about 2 DT's they had during all that time.
     
  14. BourbonBalz

    BourbonBalz Star4Ever

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    So you’re giving up on Bohanna after his rookie year?
     
  15. ICP

    ICP Well-Known Member

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    Just watch the Jones buffoons pass right in by....
     
  16. cald0d30s0

    cald0d30s0 Active Member

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    Words of wisdom.
     
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  17. kiheikiwi

    kiheikiwi Maui No Ka Oi

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    He's a 6th round pick, if he becomes a steady rotational player - that's a good 6th rounder. Asking for anything more is delusional.
    Every year I look for good solid 1 techs. And every year we pass it by and sign Jags like Carlos Watkins who low and behold we just resigned to another 1 year extention.
     
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  18. gimmesix

    gimmesix Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life

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    It's not a surprise. It's a tragedy to those of us who follow this team. One that needs to be remedied but most likely will not be.
     
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  19. ColoradoCowboy

    ColoradoCowboy Well-Known Member

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    You would be surprised how many people do NOT know this.
     
  20. quickccc

    quickccc Well-Known Member

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    Quality DTs just do not fall off apple trees ,..if you happen to stumble upon a hidden gem, (such as Chris Jones, in 2nd rd) . or a Geno Atkins in 4th then you franchise tag as quickly as you can and lock him up long term for years to come

    A number, even most first round DTs do not seem to pan out as highly expected. Frankly i'm still waiting to see what happens with Ed Oliver (Buff) .. Javon Kinlaw (Niners) and Derrick Brown (Car) ..and even Quinten Williams (NYJ) - and super rarely do you even have one time unheralded stud such as Geno Atkins (4th rd)

    Maybe we don't have stud All pros in the middle, ..but i certainly do not want them to be such a weakness that we're constantly exploited - maybe we don't have premiere
    insterior pass rushers ,... but i also do not want us to be knocked and pushed around vs the run ... and sadly even with Quinn's and Parson's arrival, the run defense still
    a sore spot for us,.. we're still being " Out-Physical" in the trenches ...
     
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