Stephen A. Smith on Dez Bryant

tyke1doe

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Yes he did. Listen to it again.

I did listen to it. He is simply addressing the speculation others have raised. Again, even posters here have hinted that Jerry Jones may have leaked this information. It's not like people haven't asked the question so why shouldn't Stephen A. raise it? But he's not taking ownership of it as if he's implying the Cowboys did this. I didn't get that from his statement at all.

That's what being taken out of context means. Big fan of his, I see.

No, I'm just a big fan of representing what people said how they said it. :)
 

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It was very good...until the last line where he put himself on the white horse as the champion for others to turn to.

Yea, it tends to be tough to claim support despite not going main stream...freedom of speech is sometimes taken for granted in actual us. AS well as demeaned in function. There is always a chance to see holier attributes in a basic need to express realistic, if not popular emotional starting points. Kind of like being a man, and emotionally declaring a team view point in basic rights of dignity.
 

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I did listen to it. He is simply addressing the speculation others have raised. Again, even posters here have hinted that Jerry Jones may have leaked this information. It's not like people haven't asked the question so why shouldn't Stephen A. raise it? But he's not taking ownership of it as if he's implying the Cowboys did this. I didn't get that from his statement at all.



No, I'm just a big fan of representing what people said how they said it. :)

He insinuated it and then made a song and dancen of saying he's not blaming the team, obviously learning from his last suspension and getting a shot in while saying we all know what the NFL is like. That's pretty clearly blaming the team.
 

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I'm at work and can't hear it right now, but if he insinuated that this is some of Jerry's doing (like I've heard others say), I'm not buying it. Knowing Jerry's history from day one and how he loves his star players ... he doesn't operate like that. Jerry is loyal to a fault. Unless he's changed, I don't see it.

I really need to hear it for myself I guess.
 

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I'm at work and can't hear it right now, but if he insinuated that this is some of Jerry's doing (like I've heard others say), I'm not buying it. Knowing Jerry's history from day one and how he loves his star players ... he doesn't operate like that. Jerry is loyal to a fault. Unless he's changed, I don't see it.

I really need to hear it for myself I guess.

You can take what you want from it and not be wrong. He words it so it could fit the idea that he is insinuating it or he can claim that others are insinuating it.

Kind of one of those things where someone says...I'm not saying (insert topic here)...Just saying.

Then if someone says...hey you said this and it turns out to be wrong the person can cover their butt and say...I did not say I believed it, just said what was being said.

Hope that makes sense.
 

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Interesting.

I haven't paid nearly enough attention to all this BS to realize that anyone was claiming that Jerry leaked this information, or allowed it to leak, as a contract negotiation ploy.

I'm sure this type of stuff happens in big business when people are negotiating with one another so I don't see why it would be crazy to think it might happen at the NFL level.

I don't know if I believe that it's happening with this case and frankly I don't really care to be perfectly honest. That's just too much guessing, wondering, posturing for me to care about.

I will say that if you're Jerry and your dead set on finding some way to keep both Dez and Murray, and potentially still bring in a big FA for your defense that using a tactic like this is one hell of a way to go about it.

I'm not saying that's right, or that he wouldn't be wrong for doing so, but when it comes to negotiating I could see people using any card they could play to help their own cause.
 

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So, am I reading this board correctly in that some of you believe the front office is behind the "leak" so they can get a favorable contract?

Unbelievable, I know
I cannot imagine the cowboys even considering something like this
 

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So, am I reading this board correctly in that some of you believe the front office is behind the "leak" so they can get a favorable contract?

Pardon me for answering your question with a question, or two. You think the Dallas Cowboys wanted Mike Florio to put the idea out there that there is a video 5 times worse than the Ray Rice video, that the Cowboys know all about it and are worried, and that they did it around September when he says he started looking into this? You don't see that "theory" as an incredible reach, especially in light of the fact that the Dallas Cowboys have publicly said they know of no video?

Probably because there is no video as we learned yesterday.
 

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I did listen to it. He is simply addressing the speculation others have raised. Again, even posters here have hinted that Jerry Jones may have leaked this information. It's not like people haven't asked the question so why shouldn't Stephen A. raise it?

I often agree with your opinions but in this case I cannot disagree more strongly

SAS cannot speculate on this because he has a bully pulpit and a national audience and that should go along with an added level of responsibility

SAS is who he is, a worthless loud mouth tool who had made it because of the color of his skin (and I'm not Caucasian).
 

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Yea, it tends to be tough to claim support despite not going main stream...freedom of speech is sometimes taken for granted in actual us. AS well as demeaned in function. There is always a chance to see holier attributes in a basic need to express realistic, if not popular emotional starting points. Kind of like being a man, and emotionally declaring a team view point in basic rights of dignity.
My apologies, but you lost me. I can't figure out what this has to do with my point that what he said was very good until he made sure everyone knew he was there for the oppressed and how that relates somehow to free speech. My apologies if I am being dense, but I just don't make the connection.
 

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Dez Bryant is the straw that broke Mike Florio's back.

Florio is a failed lawyer turned overreaching, egotistical, wannabe sports reporter. NBC, which is a sucker for the Olbermann types, would probably like a do-over after making Florio such an intricate part of their coverage.

Florio is being bashed across the nation by media and fans alike for this abortion of a job he's done on Dez, who looks more and more like a sympathetic figure. Even if a video does surface, which looks less likely by the hour, Florio's hatchet job here has ruined his already shaky reputation for good.

Perez Hilton has more respect as an NFL writer at this point.
 

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Much to do about nothing disgusted as possibly something else to make nothing appear to be something that it might not be. Plain and simply, Dez was never a choirboy, never claimed to be and never will be but he's not a trouble maker. His time on the Cowboys roster has been spent improving himself and being nothing but a model team mate and player. He is a high performance athlete that has earned a large pay day so it all boils down to one simple thing... pay the man. Enough said.
 

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He insinuated it and then made a song and dancen of saying he's not blaming the team, obviously learning from his last suspension and getting a shot in while saying we all know what the NFL is like. That's pretty clearly blaming the team.

I disagree. But I can't deny you your interpretation.
 

tyke1doe

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I often agree with your opinions but in this case I cannot disagree more strongly

SAS cannot speculate on this because he has a bully pulpit and a national audience and that should go along with an added level of responsibility

SAS is who he is, a worthless loud mouth tool who had made it because of the color of his skin (and I'm not Caucasian).

But when EVERYONE ELSE is talking about it, how can you ignore it?

I just don't think that's realistic.

Now, I agree. It would be one thing to validate it. But he didn't do that. He simply acknowledged that the speculations exist. Stephen A didn't do anything more than some fans on this very forum have done, i.e., speculated whether the Cowboys issued the leaks about Dez. And I don't feel he took ownership of that opinion. He merely articulated that the opinion exists. Then he went on to defend Dez.
 

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You can take what you want from it and not be wrong. He words it so it could fit the idea that he is insinuating it or he can claim that others are insinuating it.

Kind of one of those things where someone says...I'm not saying (insert topic here)...Just saying.

Then if someone says...hey you said this and it turns out to be wrong the person can cover their butt and say...I did not say I believed it, just said what was being said.

Hope that makes sense.

That's why I say I trust none of these talking heads and hands. It's a shame we are doing this to this guy. This is the first time in years I've wanted to hear what Stephen A had to say about anything (recommended by the Zone on behalf of Dez :D).
 

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Much to do about nothing disgusted as possibly something else to make nothing appear to be something that it might not be. Plain and simply, Dez was never a choirboy, never claimed to be and never will be but he's not a trouble maker. His time on the Cowboys roster has been spent improving himself and being nothing but a model team mate and player. He is a high performance athlete that has earned a large pay day so it all boils down to one simple thing... pay the man. Enough said.

All the homework that gets done on players before the draft and all the sudden the Cowboys (or any other team for that matter) would be surprised?
The longer this subject drags on the more I want him to get.
 
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