Stephen Jones has high expectations

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As complete as I can get. That doesn't include Romo as I don't think you could move him even if someone wanted to.

But as for coaches/front office? Yes. As much complete rebuild as I can get please.

You think the eternal optimist Jerry Jones would do that? I don't.

BTW, he's always so optimistic because he knows to feel any other way would be to admit he sucks large as a pretend GM.
 

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You know they can't win and I know they can't can't win. But we don't matter.

Those that do matter think they CAN win. So there will be no purging of the salary cap at leasy until Tony Romo retires.

Agreed.

It'll first have to completely collapse.
 

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This isn't the NBA, there isn't really a blow up and rebuild model. Just the idea of doing poorly for several years in a row is just as likely to lead to mediocrity as it is to success. The Browns, Bills, Raiders, and several others are perfect examples of this. Being terrible for a long period of time might fix our problem but only because it could mean Harry & Lloyd step down and let a real football person run this team. But we're no more likely to a win a Super Bowl going 4-12 with those two buying the groceries than we are if we go 8-8 every year. I trust a team like the Patriots or Ravens who consistently make the playoffs to win a Super Bowl in the next few seasons a hell of a lot more than I do Cleveland or Jacksonville who have consistently picked in the top of the draft.

Seattle's model has been pretty consistent in that they've put smart football people in charge and for the most part have had success there. They've had two truly awful seasons but their top-six 1st round picks were Aaron Curry who was disastrous bust and Russell Okung who has been solid but far from a premiere left tackle. After this year they will have won their division 6 times in 10 years so it has been a pretty steady period of success. Having smart football people in charge is a whole lot more important to long term success than trading or cutting any solid starters that "hold you back" from tanking the season.

You need both the ability and the capacity to rebuild the team. We have the distinction of being both cap and talent deficient going into next season, Even the best coach / GM combo would be challenged to turn around this mess in the short-term, they would have to engage in some serious house cleaning at the expense of the next two seasons to get anywhere in the future.

Then maybe they wouldn't have to restructure already top contract players multiple times eating millions and millions of cap dollars every season - just to eek under the cap.

I agree though that nothing will change without some new grocery men.
 

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You think the eternal optimist Jerry Jones would do that? I don't.

BTW, he's always so optimistic because he knows to feel any other way would be to admit he sucks large as a pretend GM.

Let's just so I'm not optimistic about it happening.

But I feel there are few options short of that which will result in real results.

We can all see how 'keeping it together' and 'just a few pieces' has worked out.
 

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He sounds as dumb as Jerry sometime. I wasn't sure that was possible but he does.
 

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Sounds like they had a talk with Gruden and are beginning the road work.
 

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"My father and I have done everything possible to field a winning team, if it doesn't work out, it's not our fault."

That one made me nearly spit out my coffee. Those two should have been canned long ago.
 

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You need both the ability and the capacity to rebuild the team. We have the distinction of being both cap and talent deficient going into next season, Even the best coach / GM combo would be challenged to turn around this mess in the short-term, they would have to engage in some serious house cleaning at the expense of the next two seasons to get anywhere in the future.

Then maybe they wouldn't have to restructure already top contract players multiple times eating millions and millions of cap dollars every season - just to eek under the cap.

I agree though that nothing will change without some new grocery men.

That's why I don't think the fix is as simple as the "TRADE ROMO WITTEN AND WARE WHAT HAVE THEY EVER DONE" may think. I'd certainly entertain the idea of trading Dez though given that he's the one likely to get a monster return in terms of cap-friendly talent-rich draft picks.
 

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Agreed.

It'll first have to completely collapse.

Also agree. Jerry didn't just give Romo $100M to blow the team up around him, and regardless of how this season ends Jerry will look at it as we were just a couple of games away from being in the playoffs.

It took three straight seasons of 5-11 for Jerry to do something drastic last time. We're not close to that territory, at least in his mind.
 

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Also agree. Jerry didn't just give Romo $100M to blow the team up around him, and regardless of how this season ends Jerry will look at it as we were just a couple of games away from being in the playoffs.

It took three straight seasons of 5-11 for Jerry to do something drastic last time. We're not close to that territory, at least in his mind.

Three straight 5-11 seasons and a stadium needing to be built. I'm not sure three 5 win seasons would do it this time.
 

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Three straight 5-11 seasons and a stadium needing to be built. I'm not sure three 5 win seasons would do it this time.

The only things that will result in something drastic taking place are Jerry passing away/becoming incapacitated, Stephen being indicted or the Cowboys taking a huge revenue hit due to fan apathy.

He has his stadium. The fans, for some misguided, Stockholm Syndrome type of reason, cheer this man wherever he goes and asks for autographs and pictures. The media still sees him as a must for interviews and soundbytes. The business of the Cowboys has never been better. And, best of all, Jerry has the brain of a 40 year old, and can see himself continuing in this role for another 10-15 years while his progeny is making claims of finding the secret sauce when not calling out players in the media.

Yep, things are looking up.
 

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We will never compete for a championship with Jerry in charge. Nothing else needs to be said. THE END!
 

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He forgot to add the following (in bold) to his quote: "My father and I have done everything possible, given our pro football limitations and incompetence, field a winning team, if it doesn't work out, it's not our fault."

LOL....not bad!
 

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The only things that will result in something drastic taking place are Jerry passing away/becoming incapacitated, Stephen being indicted or the Cowboys taking a huge revenue hit due to fan apathy.

He has his stadium. The fans, for some misguided, Stockholm Syndrome type of reason, cheer this man wherever he goes and asks for autographs and pictures. The media still sees him as a must for interviews and soundbytes. The business of the Cowboys has never been better. And, best of all, Jerry has the brain of a 40 year old, and can see himself continuing in this role for another 10-15 years while his progeny is making claims of finding the secret sauce when not calling out players in the media.

Yep, things are looking up.

If I could like a post oh 100 times it'd be this one.
 
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