Stephen Jones is a terrible negotiator

[Zordon]

Why does this keep happening to us?

Seriously somebody please tell me what the hell Stephen Jones contributes to this organization???

 

[Fmart322]

Why does this keep happening to us?

I hate it too. Always getting shorted by our trade partners.

 

[udas]

It was the cost of trading with a division rival.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

The point differential when you are the "wantor" rather than the "wantee".

I'm sure the Commanders weren't desperate to trade the pick.

 

[NorthTexan95]

I'd bet Washington had more than one offer to trade.

 

[big dog cowboy]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/draft/draft-trade-chart/

34 pick = 560 points

47 pick = 430 points
78 pick = 200 points

630 points - 560 points = 70 points

70 points = 112 pick

I don't know what Jerry's chart has.

 

[xwalker]

Why does this keep happening to us?

Seriously somebody please tell me what the hell Stephen Jones contributes to this organization???

Was there a trade?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

People still are beholden to that draft value chart?

 

[Wolf2k5]

Everyone knows these trades aren't in Madden right? Values are not gna be exact every time. Plus it was div rival. I would have rather not given to Skins but if you got a first round grade on a guy at a possition of need and an opportunity to get him you do it.

 

[canters]

If he plays well, the over pay issue will be forgotten...after seeing his highlight film, I worry more about off-the field issues more than production.

 

[john van brocklin]

Last year we only get a 3rd rounder to move back half of the first round, this year we give up a 3rd rounder to move up 13 spots...... IN THE SECOND ROUND !!!!!

How are they gonna spin this one ????

 

[davey999]

How do people defend this trade?

 

[Doomsday]

When you trade inside the division you are most likely going to have to pay a premium. If he is the player they think he is the points dont mean squat.

 

[Wolf2k5]

When you trade inside the division you are most likely going to have to pay a premium. If he is the player they think he is the points dont mean squat.

You're getting logic on everyone's crybaby cake...

 

[honyock]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/draft/draft-trade-chart/

34 pick = 560 points

47 pick = 430 points
78 pick = 200 points

630 points - 560 points = 70 points

70 points = 112 pick

I don't know what Jerry's chart has.

The tough thing about the trade is that the Jimmy Johnson chart (the one your numbers come from) is going to be the kindest to the Cowboys on this trade of all the charts floating around out there. The Jimmy chart values higher picks more than the other charts do.

So according to the other charts, the trade is going to look even worse value wise from the Cowboys end.

Like others are saying, I like the player, and if they had a first round grade on him, I understand wanting him here. I hope he's a beast. I hope I'm ecstatic about this trade in two years. But that was really expensive. It really plays against the idea to diversify your risks and give yourself as many rolls at the table as possible.

 

[boysfan69]

as usual Dallas the short end of the stick and why the trade we need more help not lees this is not the way to get thing done

 

[davey999]

You're getting logic on everyone's crybaby cake...

I know. Why doubt with our obvious draft acumen?

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I heard on the radio that last year both Dallas and SF "lost" on points on their own respective charts. Means nothing.

 

[Hoofbite]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/draft/draft-trade-chart/

34 pick = 560 points

47 pick = 430 points
78 pick = 200 points

630 points - 560 points = 70 points

70 points = 112 pick

I don't know what Jerry's chart has.

Well, I believe the Cowboy's chart has it in favor of Dallas to the tune of about a 5th round pick.

 

[Zordon]

People still are beholden to that draft value chart?

no but a 4th round pick is a 4th round pick. i'm not expecting the full 70 points back but at least get a 6th or even 7th back for God's sakes. is this too much to ask from your lead negotiator who contributes nothing else to the organization?