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[CATCH17]

Romo 78-49 regular season.

QB wasn’t the problem .

Agree..

We could’ve done a better job fixing the problem had Romo not been paid like he won the Super Bowl.

 

[Vanilla2]

Not sure I understand...you would prefer Dak not take less salary?

My point is just that the size of his pie increases by being here, but the pie is split more towards endorsement dollars versus salary dollars. Both sides benefit because he likely earns more money than he would elsewhere, and we don't have to pay the same salary premium that a loser organization like Buffalo would to retain him. If it were me as GM, I'd try to estimate whatever the gap would be in endorsement dollars by him going elsewhere (obviously challenging to do with a significant # of variables that we are not privy to) and net that from whatever you estimate his 'open market' price would be and that would be my opening bid.

I think it would be foolish for a player an agent to ignore the endorsement / post-career earning potential that comes from being a lifetime Cowboy after seeing how easily / quickly prominent players have translated their cowboys stardom into significant $$$. CBS / MNF gigs don't happen for Romo and Witten if they are lifetime Cardinals.

Sounds smart.

Turn down money today for money he might make in the future.

 

[cowboy_ron]

Dak's play is simple.

Play this year well enough on his current deal.

Take the $332 million franchise tag in 2020.

Take the tag again in 2021, which has an auto increase to about $38 million.

Enter free agency and grab the mother load.

That is....as long as you play really well.

Injuries are low risk for quarterbacks in terms of recovery and longevity.

We might have to pass on the 332M tag.

 

[cowboy_ron]

We let him walk and have who to play qb.

Most Dak haters haven't thought that far ahead.........nor do they remember the dry spell between Aikman and Romo.

 

[BigD49]

Sounds smart.

Turn down money today for money he might make in the future.

Campbell's, Dannon, Pepsi, etc. endorsements are possible TODAY and the money is coming TODAY because he is the Dallas Cowboys QB. Don't see what's challenging to understand about this...any agent that can't recognize that overall earning potential materially falls the day he leaves Dallas for that extra little bit of guaranteed $$ from some irrelevant market is an idiot and deserves to be fired. Athletes today are about building a brand, as they should be. In order to do that, sacrifices are made, whether it's relocation, taking less to join a winner, etc. To reduce that complexities of the financial discussions that surround that to "turn down money today for money he might make in the future" is incredibly shortsighted...

I'm not implying he'll magically sign for $25mm less, but to pretend that this is irrelevant to a contract negotiation is foolish. The smartest (and richest) people in the world spend their time thinking of what expenditures will yield them the most future earnings, as well as the associated risk of that tradeoff. Why would this be any different?

 

[windjc]

People are over complicating this. Make Dak prove it in 2019. If he wins a superbowl he gets his payday. If he craps out this year, then thats on him too.

There is no need to rush the contract. No need. Let him earn it.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Romo started in 6 games his third year and became the starter in year 4 so take a look at years 3-5 and get back with us. If you're going to compare, make it fair...

What???

Romo had 3 years of learning the system from the sidelines and learning from Quincy Carter, Vinnie Testaverde and Drew Bledsoe before he ever started, so Romo had a HUGE ADVANTAGE OVER DAK who was thrown to the fire as a redshirt rookie from Day 1! Yet, Dak's first 3 years starting stats are almost all better than Romo's first 3 years starting.

LOL...Try again.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Romo was elite

LOL

Dak's stats his first 3 years are better almost universally than Romo's first 3 years starting.

 

[sean10mm]

What???

Romo had 3 years of learning the system from the sidelines and learning from Quincy Carter, Vinnie Testaverde and Drew Bledsoe before he ever started, so Romo had a HUGE ADVANTAGE OVER DAK who was thrown to the fire as a redshirt rookie from Day 1! Yet, Dak's first 3 years starting stats are almost all better than Romo's first 3 years starting.

LOL...Try again.

Wait, Dak had a 4,200 yard 36 touchdown season and we all missed it somehow?

 

[America's Cowboy]

Wait, Dak had a 4,200 yard 36 touchdown season and we all missed it somehow?

Compare (average) all first 3 seasons.

 

[Roadtrip635]

People are over complicating this. Make Dak prove it in 2019. If he wins a superbowl he gets his payday. If he craps out this year, then thats on him too.

There is no need to rush the contract. No need. Let him earn it.

There are more than 2 results of win Super Bowl or crap out, he like every other starting QB's results will be somewhere in between. The problems are that between now and then there will be other QBs signing new deals or extensions raising the market even further. The complicated part comes if they do decide to let him walk next year as how do you replace him. We are not poised for high draft picks, several other teams are positioning for tank seasons. Starting level QB are very rarely available on the open market or sitting on a bench to trade for. Drafting a QB, even high draft picks are a crapshoot and even if you find one it will take a couple or more seasons to develop, which leads to other decisions about the rest of the roster. Do we waste, prime years from other players during the development time or use them for trades when the QB and team are better prepared? And what if the pick doesn't pan out or isn't really an upgrade?

 

[OmerV]

A team game. I know brady is a unique situation and has a better hc. But he took less so he could have other quality around him to help.

Obviously Dak isn’t brady, Lol. Not comparing the 2, but wondering if Dak would think about taking a little less so we could sign Cooper easier.

Of course it really only works when the whole team stays cap friendly. A qb signs for 5 mil a year less so it can help sign other players but then another player gobbles it up on his contract. Lol.

Of course Brady has already made a boatload of money, and his wife has too, and he has the luxury of having experienced how much money can be made aside from salary when winning Super Bowls. Brady might not have been so understanding in 2002 when he was Dak's age.

 

[cowboy_ron]

People are over complicating this. Make Dak prove it in 2019. If he wins a superbowl he gets his payday. If he craps out this year, then thats on him too.

There is no need to rush the contract. No need. Let him earn it.

Kind of like Robert Newhouse, that poor guy had to fight for a roster spot every year......he out worked whoever they brought in to compete with, but he was still able to turn in into a pretty lengthy career.

 

[Corso]

People are over complicating this. Make Dak prove it in 2019. If he wins a superbowl he gets his payday. If he craps out this year, then thats on him too.

There is no need to rush the contract. No need. Let him earn it.

All's he gots to do is win the whole enchilada...
Sweet.

 

[Dalmations202]

People are over complicating this. Make Dak prove it in 2019. If he wins a superbowl he gets his payday. If he craps out this year, then thats on him too.

There is no need to rush the contract. No need. Let him earn it.

they tried this with Tank, and it cost them $4M a year extra

If he did win it, then Russell Wilsons contract would be the floor to start with.

 

[Corso]

they tried this with Tank, and it cost them $4M a year extra

If he did win it, then Russell Wilsons contract would be the floor to start with.

Yeah... but @windjc will be fine with that.
Right @windjc ? It's all good at that point.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Who cares if we overpay Dak by 8m

That is one TCrawford or RQuinn

Are you really saying you want one of those guys over a Franchise QB? Child Please

Plus we are 20m under the cap this year and 12m last yea and 90m next year..... we aren't even spending the cap space we have and that is without getting creative

If we pay Dak 25m that means we can always restructure him and create 15-20m in cap space to sign anyone

Lol

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Just don't be stupid Stephen.

Learn from Romo's contract when you paid him that money before he ever won anything.

If Dak isn't winning championships making below a million it's going to be incredibly difficult if he's making 30 mill.

Well, Zeke too when he wants to be paid.