Stop blaming everyone but the Dallas Cowboys

CATCH17

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Totally agree.

Our team gets a good old fashioned asswhooping and our fan base can't stop complaining about the refs and how Troy Aikman wasnt blowing sunshine up Garrett's rear.


Troy deserves some heat and 6 games with not 1 holding call is ridiculous.

Don't act like these things don't exist because they are legit criticisms.



Our coaching is far and away our biggest problem but there are other problems too.
 

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Agree
After all solutions don't need identification of the underlying problems lol :rolleyes::rolleyes:

We can just make up the solutions

Blame is about passing judgment on a person. Finding cause is about determining what is the underlying issue absent the judgment.

Blaming someone is not a solution.
 

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Inactivity by the front office- whether it’s arrogance or incompetence, I’m not sure, but the roster flat out wasn’t good enough going into the season. Not going out and getting better starters at serveral positions is 1 thing, but the sheer lack of depth is showing its ugly face. We need more talent and not niche players who try hard.

This coaching staff is flat out incapable of adjusting. When everyone is healthy and we can implement the game plan the team is as good as anyone. Once something doesn’t go right and adjustments need to be made the wheels fall off. That’s bad coaching it’s hard to overcome.

Accountability from players is pretty much non existent. Some of this needs to come from coaching, but the players also need to step and and own their mistakes. On and off the field. The culture of a Jerry Jones owned Cowboys team may never be that of a winning franchise though...

It’s not Goodell, it’s not any other owner, it’s not the refs, it’s not anyone else...The Dallas Cowboys as an organization are the reason for their 5-4 record right now.

Its always black and white on this board. Doesnt matter the topic at hand. This is yet another in a long line of post that attempts to go one way or the other.

I am yet to see a single poster blame everythig on the officials or Goodell.

Clearly our coaching was poor and clearly our talent level falls off drastically with our back ups in certain key positions.

It is also clear that Goodells quest for political correctness has taken a signifigant hit to our running game.

The officiating has been maddening and inconsistent at best.

So there are many reasons we are where we are. The Dallas Cowboys have to take the brunt of the blame, no sane person can deny that. But it doesnt mean other factors dont exist.
 

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Blame is about passing judgment on a person. Finding cause is about determining what is the underlying issue absent the judgment.

Blaming someone is not a solution.

Blame follows identification of fault, esp when the fault is repeated year after year after year

Blindly ignoring the underlying problems and not holding those people to account is exactly why this franchise has won nothing in over 2 decades

Until you identify the faults and own them, nothing will change
 

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Blame follows identification of fault, esp when the fault is repeated year after year after year

Blindly ignoring the underlying problems and not holding those people to account is exactly why this franchise has won nothing in over 2 decades

Until you identify the faults and own them, nothing will change

All I get out of this is your fixation on fault and blame.

I said I was interested in cause and effect. For example Green had technical issues with hand placement, footwork, and timing. Those are all things that caused him to miss blocks and limit the passing game.

Poor technique from the LT caused the offense to struggle.

What you are doing is judging. I get that you cannot tell the difference or why it is important but it is there just the same.
 

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These are two different things. Cowboys organization =good vs NFL. Cowboy Organization bad=state of the team.
 

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This board proves that the NFL is a week to week League.

Prior to the Zeke ruling there were none of these posts. The domination of the 9ers, beat down of the Skins and the "big" win against KC had everyone rightfully believing this team was hitting its stride and will put a win streak together.

There is no doubt in my mind that Dallas would have won this Atlanta game with Zeke playing (even without Tyron Smith). At the end of the GB game the light switch seemed to come on for Zeke and the OL. That roll continued all the way through the KC game. I think Atlanta would have been beaten pretty easily with a heavy dose of Zeke. I also think Dallas would beat the Eagles as well as the Skins, Chargers, Giants and Raiders.

Just amazing how things can change so quickly in this week to week League.

Hang in there fellow fans. Don't jump off the ledge just yet.
 

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Blame is about passing judgment on a person. Finding cause is about determining what is the underlying issue absent the judgment.

Blaming someone is not a solution.
its easy to find the cause of the problems for the dallas cowboys hire a real GM and a comptent coaching staff would go a long ways toward fixing the problems
 

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All I get out of this is your fixation on fault and blame.

I said I was interested in cause and effect. For example Green had technical issues with hand placement, footwork, and timing. Those are all things that caused him to miss blocks and limit the passing game.

Poor technique from the LT caused the offense to struggle.

What you are doing is judging. I get that you cannot tell the difference or why it is important but it is there just the same.

No, west you are doing is telling me "the tree I'm standing in front of feels hot, whine in telling you the forest is on fire"
 

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its easy to find the cause of the problems for the dallas cowboys hire a real GM and a comptent coaching staff would go a long ways toward fixing the problems

He's not interested in hearing that
All you'll get is long winded hot air from him
 

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No, west you are doing is telling me "the tree I'm standing in front of feels hot, whine in telling you the forest is on fire"

As predicted, you cannot tell the difference between fault and blame versus cause and effect.
 

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its easy to find the cause of the problems for the dallas cowboys hire a real GM and a comptent coaching staff would go a long ways toward fixing the problems

Those are throwaway lines. I am interested in solutions.

Garrett can be conservative to a fault and is a position that could be upgraded. That is not a solution though. A solution is finding someone better. I am sure your take is some hyperbole about how he is the worst ever but that is nonsense.

As for the GM, the Cowboys have not had an issue acquiring talent. Their drafts have been outstanding.
 

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This board proves that the NFL is a week to week League.

Prior to the Zeke ruling there were none of these posts. The domination of the 9ers, beat down of the Skins and the "big" win against KC had everyone rightfully believing this team was hitting its stride and will put a win streak together.

There is no doubt in my mind that Dallas would have won this Atlanta game with Zeke playing (even without Tyron Smith). At the end of the GB game the light switch seemed to come on for Zeke and the OL. That roll continued all the way through the KC game. I think Atlanta would have been beaten pretty easily with a heavy dose of Zeke. I also think Dallas would beat the Eagles as well as the Skins, Chargers, Giants and Raiders.

Just amazing how things can change so quickly in this week to week League.

Hang in there fellow fans. Don't jump off the ledge just yet.
Zeke's going to miss the next 5 games. We'll be out of the playoff race by then.
 

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Those are throwaway lines. I am interested in solutions.

Garrett can be conservative to a fault and is a position that could be upgraded. That is not a solution though. A solution is finding someone better. I am sure your take is some hyperbole about how he is the worst ever but that is nonsense.

As for the GM, the Cowboys have not had an issue acquiring talent. Their drafts have been outstanding.
Jason garrett is not the worst ever he is just not a nfl head coach he would be good in college or high school coach here he is simply a middle of the road coach he has taken forever to win one playoff game when this league is setup to change a team very quickly some of there pick have been good but just as many have failed that's the reason they are still a middle of the road team.
 

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Jason garrett is not the worst ever he is just not a nfl head coach he would be good in college or high school coach here he is simply a middle of the road coach he has taken forever to win one playoff game when this league is setup to change a team very quickly some of there pick have been good but just as many have failed that's the reason they are still a middle of the road team.
What makes you think he's be good in high school or college? Those levels of play require even more non-conventional thinking typically.
 

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Jason garrett is not the worst ever he is just not a nfl head coach he would be good in college or high school coach here he is simply a middle of the road coach he has taken forever to win one playoff game when this league is setup to change a team very quickly some of there pick have been good but just as many have failed that's the reason they are still a middle of the road team.

weak form of the real scotsman argument. Garrett is an NFL head coach in fact. Still not seeing any solutions. Just complaints.
 

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There is no doubt in my mind that Dallas would have won this Atlanta game with Zeke playing (even without Tyron Smith). At the end of the GB game the light switch seemed to come on for Zeke and the OL. That roll continued all the way through the KC game. I think Atlanta would have been beaten pretty easily with a heavy dose of Zeke. I also think Dallas would beat the Eagles as well as the Skins, Chargers, Giants and Raiders.

Just amazing how things can change so quickly in this week to week League.

Hang in there fellow fans. Don't jump off the ledge just yet.


Not a chance.

I don't even know how you can entertain that thought.
 

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Inactivity by the front office- whether it’s arrogance or incompetence, I’m not sure, but the roster flat out wasn’t good enough going into the season. Not going out and getting better starters at serveral positions is 1 thing, but the sheer lack of depth is showing its ugly face. We need more talent and not niche players who try hard.

This coaching staff is flat out incapable of adjusting. When everyone is healthy and we can implement the game plan the team is as good as anyone. Once something doesn’t go right and adjustments need to be made the wheels fall off. That’s bad coaching it’s hard to overcome.

Accountability from players is pretty much non existent. Some of this needs to come from coaching, but the players also need to step and and own their mistakes. On and off the field. The culture of a Jerry Jones owned Cowboys team may never be that of a winning franchise though...

It’s not Goodell, it’s not any other owner, it’s not the refs, it’s not anyone else...The Dallas Cowboys as an organization are the reason for their 5-4 record right now.

All you said is true and it just bugs me to no end to see other teams overcome similar personnel adversity.

In our own division, there's a thread on the Eagles personnel losses. Off the top of my head, I think the Vikings AND Patriots (the exception to every norm, I know) have replaced 4 and 5 bodies each on their offensive lines within the last 2 to 3 years. Heck, the Vikes lost their impact runner and 2 quarterbacks! Two!

I share several others posters concerns on if we "ever" can out scheme or adjust in game to all previously mentioned issues.

We can't even go 2 consecutive seasons to the playoffs. And then if we do, we're one and done.

Someone had a thread on here yesterday pointing out the overall records of teams from last year and their current records now at just past the mid way points.

Perfectly illustrated that NFL has truly become a year to year league BUT...

There are exceptions. The Patriots of course, the gold standard of excellence model of consistency award winner.

But, I mean Pittsburgh, Green Bay with a healthy Rodgers,and I guess Seattle for their last 5 year window can be included as perennial "contenders."

I am 52, my Cowboys fandom started in 1975. I swear sometimes it seems as though the Jimmy Johnson teams were like a dream. Not real even. Our spoiled Landry years seem even more like a fairy tale vice actual team history.


Thanks for letting me vent this stuff and it really was nothing more than what several of you guys have already mentioned but I guess I needed to add in my own personal two cents of rant.

P.S. Sorry about the post length, Did not realize I had written so much til I was already done
 
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