Stopping the New Romo Myth

Galian Beast

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I've seen this new Romo myth popping up, and we need to squash this right now.

There is this idea that Romo was able to have a great year because he wasn't the focal point of the offence. First I would say this is ridiculous. When Romo had bad games or wasn't healthy this team still lost even with the running game, and when Romo wasn't there at all this team lost.

I've always thought Romo was an elite quarterback, and that we would see that if he had the following things

- an offensive line that could protect him
- a running game
- and a defense.

Basically if he was on a good team, you would see how elite he was as this is what elite quarterbacks have. I think Romo was elite last year. I know he lead the league in QB Rating, and I think he lead in QBR as well, not positive on the latter though.

But it wasn't about DeMarco Murray directly. It was about the time of possession battle that helped this defense stay on the right side of the ledger.

Who are the two standard bearers at the QB position? Rodgers and Brady.

Aaron Rodgers became a starter in 2008, a year and a half after Romo became a starter. Romo missed some time due to injury, but so did Rodgers, yet Rodgers has 1600 attempts with a lead compared to Romo who only has 1325 attempts. Romo actually has a higher qb rating than Brady when they play with a lead.
Hell, he has a higher quarterback rating than Brady when they both are trailing. The problem with Romo is that he has 1913 attempts when trailing compared to 1325 attempts with the lead. That inbalance is hugely detrimental to Romo, and causes him to be far more aggressive.

2.84 td to interception rating with the lead
2.08 td to interception rating when trailing

The reason Romo was so good last year is that he at least hit 50/50 last year between trailing and leading.

Did the running game help this defense last year and as a result help Romo? Absolutely. Can an improved defense allow Romo to pass more in a game, without taking unnecessary risks? Again, absolutely. The key end game is to have the lead while conducting offense and not be FORCED to pass the ball. As long as we are passing the ball on our terms, we will see efficient high quality play out of Romo regardless to an extent of how much we actually run the ball.


A lot of people look at pass attempts in a game, ignoring the fact that if Romo has to throw the ball 40 times, it's probably a bad situation in the first place.

This team should create an identity of not necessarily a rushing offense, but an imposing one. One that sets the pace of the game not just in terms of time of possession, but in terms of points scored. And you score points by passing the ball. It's time to impose this offense on other defenses with Bryant, Witten, Williams, Beasley, Escobar e.t.c. I hope the offensive line can get to the point where they don't need to keep tight ends in for help.

You score points with this offense early and often, and you let what looks like it could be a great defense pin its ears back. I see no reason this team can't be better than the 2009 Saints. Hell, I think we were better than them in 2009...
 

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I'd love to see the rest of football fandom come to their senses on this, but I've come to the conclusion that they won't. There won't be a moment of clarity where every blowhard who has ignored reality to belittle Romo until now will suddenly say, "I've been wrong about this guy all along, and it has only been my blind hatred that has prevented me from seeing or acknowledging his greatness." Not going to happen.

So, the best we can hope for is that Romo gets to hoist a Lombardi trophy or two (a Super Bowl MVP would be nice, too) to shut the jerks up.
 

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I've seen this new Romo myth popping up, and we need to squash this right now.

There is this idea that Romo was able to have a great year because he wasn't the focal point of the offence. First I would say this is ridiculous. When Romo had bad games or wasn't healthy this team still lost even with the running game, and when Romo wasn't there at all this team lost.

I've always thought Romo was an elite quarterback, and that we would see that if he had the following things

- an offensive line that could protect him
- a running game
- and a defense.

Basically if he was on a good team, you would see how elite he was as this is what elite quarterbacks have. I think Romo was elite last year. I know he lead the league in QB Rating, and I think he lead in QBR as well, not positive on the latter though.

But it wasn't about DeMarco Murray directly. It was about the time of possession battle that helped this defense stay on the right side of the ledger.

Who are the two standard bearers at the QB position? Rodgers and Brady.

Aaron Rodgers became a starter in 2008, a year and a half after Romo became a starter. Romo missed some time due to injury, but so did Rodgers, yet Rodgers has 1600 attempts with a lead compared to Romo who only has 1325 attempts. Romo actually has a higher qb rating than Brady when they play with a lead.
Hell, he has a higher quarterback rating than Brady when they both are trailing. The problem with Romo is that he has 1913 attempts when trailing compared to 1325 attempts with the lead. That inbalance is hugely detrimental to Romo, and causes him to be far more aggressive.

2.84 td to interception rating with the lead
2.08 td to interception rating when trailing

The reason Romo was so good last year is that he at least hit 50/50 last year between trailing and leading.

Did the running game help this defense last year and as a result help Romo? Absolutely. Can an improved defense allow Romo to pass more in a game, without taking unnecessary risks? Again, absolutely. The key end game is to have the lead while conducting offense and not be FORCED to pass the ball. As long as we are passing the ball on our terms, we will see efficient high quality play out of Romo regardless to an extent of how much we actually run the ball.


A lot of people look at pass attempts in a game, ignoring the fact that if Romo has to throw the ball 40 times, it's probably a bad situation in the first place.

This team should create an identity of not necessarily a rushing offense, but an imposing one. One that sets the pace of the game not just in terms of time of possession, but in terms of points scored. And you score points by passing the ball. It's time to impose this offense on other defenses with Bryant, Witten, Williams, Beasley, Escobar e.t.c. I hope the offensive line can get to the point where they don't need to keep tight ends in for help.

You score points with this offense early and often, and you let what looks like it could be a great defense pin its ears back. I see no reason this team can't be better than the 2009 Saints. Hell, I think we were better than them in 2009...
Hey Beast..

Good post but U know I'm going to show up and spread some turnips on your pretty salad (grin).

I watch with interest all the videos being posted on Dallascowboys.com where Witten and Romo insist they are starting over with a NEW team that still has to re-commit to 2015.

I completely agree.

You are spending a lot of time justifying your points..

which is all good and spins my head where you want me to go in my logic.

But I think..after much thought..

that we are in serious trouble and the leaders at least on offense..

are sounding the alarms.

We as fans are like watchers of the news at 6pm.

We can clearly see what happened. The reporters tell us. But the big problem is..

..now what happens.?

None of them can shed any light on that and we have to tune back in at 10pm?

Same thing here.

I'm still of the opinion that Romo is like Danny White. not like Roger Staubach.

Not like Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady.

Danny White also won a lot during the season..

Got into a bunch more playoffs and won more than Romo EVER will in his career..

Danny had a championship defense left over from the Staubach years and offensive weapons galore.

But Danny couldn't dismiss the pressure of being the Cowboys QB and succeed.

Don Meredith was the same.

Romo..is the same.

All this rebuilding is for our next QB mark my words.

Now after this season..if Romo doesn't firmly plant a SB victory banner in our end zone..

the Big Experiment ends with Tony.

Not for one second do I believe Jones is going to resign Dez at a Franchise choking deal..

Resign all our ÜBER OL and all these guys we are grooming on D to lineup at the winning ticket window for their new deals..

and still be wringing our hands over whether or not Romo can do it or not.

We'll see.
 

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I've seen this new Romo myth popping up, and we need to squash this right now.

There is this idea that Romo was able to have a great year because he wasn't the focal point of the offence. First I would say this is ridiculous. When Romo had bad games or wasn't healthy this team still lost even with the running game, and when Romo wasn't there at all this team lost.

I've always thought Romo was an elite quarterback, and that we would see that if he had the following things

- an offensive line that could protect him
- a running game
- and a defense.

Basically if he was on a good team, you would see how elite he was as this is what elite quarterbacks have. I think Romo was elite last year. I know he lead the league in QB Rating, and I think he lead in QBR as well, not positive on the latter though.

But it wasn't about DeMarco Murray directly. It was about the time of possession battle that helped this defense stay on the right side of the ledger.

Who are the two standard bearers at the QB position? Rodgers and Brady.

Aaron Rodgers became a starter in 2008, a year and a half after Romo became a starter. Romo missed some time due to injury, but so did Rodgers, yet Rodgers has 1600 attempts with a lead compared to Romo who only has 1325 attempts. Romo actually has a higher qb rating than Brady when they play with a lead.
Hell, he has a higher quarterback rating than Brady when they both are trailing. The problem with Romo is that he has 1913 attempts when trailing compared to 1325 attempts with the lead. That inbalance is hugely detrimental to Romo, and causes him to be far more aggressive.

2.84 td to interception rating with the lead
2.08 td to interception rating when trailing

The reason Romo was so good last year is that he at least hit 50/50 last year between trailing and leading.

Did the running game help this defense last year and as a result help Romo? Absolutely. Can an improved defense allow Romo to pass more in a game, without taking unnecessary risks? Again, absolutely. The key end game is to have the lead while conducting offense and not be FORCED to pass the ball. As long as we are passing the ball on our terms, we will see efficient high quality play out of Romo regardless to an extent of how much we actually run the ball.


A lot of people look at pass attempts in a game, ignoring the fact that if Romo has to throw the ball 40 times, it's probably a bad situation in the first place.

This team should create an identity of not necessarily a rushing offense, but an imposing one. One that sets the pace of the game not just in terms of time of possession, but in terms of points scored. And you score points by passing the ball. It's time to impose this offense on other defenses with Bryant, Witten, Williams, Beasley, Escobar e.t.c. I hope the offensive line can get to the point where they don't need to keep tight ends in for help.

You score points with this offense early and often, and you let what looks like it could be a great defense pin its ears back. I see no reason this team can't be better than the 2009 Saints. Hell, I think we were better than them in 2009...

You seem like a glass half full kind of guy (I assume you are male). I'm not saying that's a bad thing and I'm not saying that I don't like it from time to time. It's just an observation. I could imagine to some it seems like the Cowboys can do no wrong from reading your post.
 

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But I think..after much thought..

that we are in serious trouble and the leaders at least on offense..

are sounding the alarms.

...............
You think this offense is in real trouble?
Seriously?

This offense was one of the better ones in the league before they had anywhere near what they have now.

Romo will be as good or better
Dez will too
Williams should be better in year 3
Beaz is on the uptick too
Smith in his prime
Freddy's arrow is up with only two years under his belt
Martin for sure should be better in year two
Free...probably the same
Witten...probably the same
Leary...maybe the same, maybe slightly better...or else the stud rookie steps in

Randle/McFadden will not be as good as Murray...

So 10 will be as good or better...some maybe much better.
And 1 will probably not be as good.

That equals "real trouble"?!!!!!!

This is not even factoring a defense that almost for sure will be much better.
 

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Since Romo has been QB it has been proven that he cannot and should not be the focal point of the offense.

Of we aren't running effectively, he and many other QBs aren't good enough to win it all.

This is Romo 100%. I don't trust him to make enough good passing decisions to lead us through playoffs.

Let alone winning Super Bowl.

We are retroactively fitting the 90s winning formula. It wasn't about one guy then. There shouldnt be a focal point on him or anyone else now.
 

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Yes, Mr. Galian starts mad threads. Sometimes the thread list in the fan zone features six or more. This one is pretty good though.
 

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You seem like a glass half full kind of guy (I assume you are male). I'm not saying that's a bad thing and I'm not saying that I don't like it from time to time. It's just an observation. I could imagine to some it seems like the Cowboys can do no wrong from reading your post.

It's funny how many times I'm called a homer and at the same time how many times I've been called a hater...

The truth is I praise the team or a player when I feel they should be praised, and I criticize when I feel they should be as well.
 

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GB, this is one of the better threads you've started. Thanks.
 

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This is Romo 100%. I don't trust him to make enough good passing decisions to lead us through playoffs.

I disagree. I thought Romo's performance in last season's playoffs was very good. Detroit's defensive line was all over him with 6 sacks, 4 QB hits, and 13 pressures. Still, he managed to convert a key 4th and 6 which helped complete a 4th quarter comeback. His performance against GB was very good too. Romo played well enough to win but the lost fumble essentially lost us the game. Our defense wasn't good enough to slow down a one legged QB.

Yes, Mr. Galian starts mad threads. Sometimes the thread list in the fan zone features six or more. This one is pretty good though.

throw enough mud at the wall, some of it will stick
 

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It's funny how many times I'm called a homer and at the same time how many times I've been called a hater...

The truth is I praise the team or a player when I feel they should be praised, and I criticize when I feel they should be as well.

Would not call you a homer, "thread starter" is definitely accurate but does not tell the whole story. The truth is you love to "hear yourself talk", sometimes justifying positions to the bitter end. Like another poster stated, I sometimes dread opening one of your threads. But kudos on this thread, on being a uniter instead of a divider.
 

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I disagree. I thought Romo's performance in last season's playoffs was very good. Detroit's defensive line was all over him with 6 sacks, 4 QB hits, and 13 pressures. Still, he managed to convert a key 4th and 6 which helped complete a 4th quarter comeback. His performance against GB was very good too. Romo played well enough to win but the lost fumble essentially lost us the game. Our defense wasn't good enough to slow down a one legged QB.



throw enough mud at the wall, some of it will stick

I disagree that the fumble lost the GB game, there was still enough time in the game to mount a comeback. The reversed catch plus D's inability to get ball back at games end was another story.
 

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Since Romo has been QB it has been proven that he cannot and should not be the focal point of the offense.

Of we aren't running effectively, he and many other QBs aren't good enough to win it all.

This is Romo 100%. I don't trust him to make enough good passing decisions to lead us through playoffs.

Let alone winning Super Bowl.

We are retroactively fitting the 90s winning formula. It wasn't about one guy then. There shouldnt be a focal point on him or anyone else now.

The point is not (or at least shouldn't have been) that Romo was not "good". The logical argument was that asking him, or most QBs to sling the ball 50 times a game was not conducive to winning, as the law of averages means that one error could be backbreaking. That alone has developed the perception that he's not clutch.

Aikman was a better QB with a running game. Romo is better with a dependable and efficient running game when he does not have to win the game himself, or better yet, feels he has to, which makes him feel compelled to take the game on his shoulders.

It has never been that he's some horrible QB that cannot win games. Having the support of a balanced offense just helps him mentally handle the game and the pressure better. He is less likely to force throws thinking he has to make the play.
 

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Would not call you a homer, "thread starter" is definitely accurate but does not tell the whole story. The truth is you love to "hear yourself talk", sometimes justifying positions to the bitter end. Like another poster stated, I sometimes dread opening one of your threads. But kudos on this thread, on being a uniter instead of a divider.

:lmao:

He really is not interested in the feedback that he gets. He just wants to tell everybody his opinion over, and over and over (and over).
 
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