stuff about Akin Ayodele from the Jag Board

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some comments from the jaguars.com board:

-comments on weakness: Coverage, and general inconsistencies. Like Trill said he's a 3-4 outside 'backer. He was a tweener DE in college.

-You nailed his two main weaknesses. In coverage Akin will typically stay with the receiver, but when the ball goes to his guy Ayodele goes for the tackle instead of the big play. He'll be close enough to get the guy down the second he catches the ball, but you won't see him getting his hand up to defend a pass or even attempting an INT. This in turn translates to an overall lack of big plays on his part. His inconsistencies relate to everything but tackling which he excels at enough that some of think he'd make for a good MLB. He will make the tackles that he's directly responsible for, but he doesn't have the range and sideline-to-sideline speed to consistently get to the tackles that don't go his way. As a rookie he showed potential as a pass rusher, and he'll still switch up to DE at times, but he's never quite reached the potential we set for him early on. Over the past two seasons Akin found himself largely shut-out as a pass rusher. He'll still have his moments, and when he's at the line he's good at leaping with a hand up to deflect the pass, but he's just not the pass rushing terror we need and expect him to be.

Having said all this, Akin's really not all that bad. In fact there were several games this past season where he clearly outplayed our other outside backer Daryl Smith. Physically Akin has impressive size and strength, and his straightline speed is adequate. He's also a guy you can count on to always be in his gap, and he's a textbook tackler who will have double-digit tackle games. It's just that it's sort of like an American Idol situation at LB here. Del Rio, as a former LB, is searching for greatness at the position.

-Ayodele is solid, but not much more. I had high expectations for him after his rookie year. He never seemed to improve though. He would probably be a better fit in a system like San Diego in a Steve Foley-type role. I have met Akin and he’s a pretty cool guy. But I think his days in Jacksonville are over.

-saw him last night at Ocean Club. Super nice guy and I also think his days here are shortening.....

-He is a nice guy, but his extracurricular activities may be his biggest weakness.

Good summary Jags02. Our biggest weakness in our defense last year was our LB play in our zone coverages. Every time we went into a zone coverage 51 and 52 were getting tourched.

I think DD really helped cover up this weakness, but we found out real fast without him that we need some help here.

-I think all of Ayodele's problems are mental and not physical. I don't think he's very instinctive and isn't great at reading plays. In other words, he doesn't put himself in a good position to make the play on the ball and for a LB, being able to read the play is basically EVERYTHING. So in that sense, i think he's best suited to be a outside 3-4 backer whose primary job is to rush the qb. That is a responsibility which doesn't require so much thinking and instincts.

-I think all of Ayodele's problems are mental and not physical. I don't think he's very instinctive and isn't great at reading plays. In other words, he doesn't put himself in a good position to make the play on the ball and for a LB, being able to read the play is basically EVERYTHING. So in that sense, i think he's best suited to be a outside 3-4 backer whose primary job is to rush the qb. That is a responsibility which doesn't require so much thinking and instincts.

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My pleasure, DM13. The 4.95 time is probably a significant reason why some in NFL circles labeled Akin Ayodele as a DE-OLB tweener, back in 2002. Having said that, a number of so-called DE-OLB's who played their College ball at Purdue have been very productive in the NFL.
In the March 2006 issue of Pro Football Weekly ( Page 8 ), they rated Akin Ayodele 46th of the scheduled FA's in 2006. In addition to UFA's, this includes Franchise Tag, Transition Tag, and RFA's. The following is the write up PFW provided on Ayodele:
" Fell out of favor in Jacksonville, where he was asked to drop and cover. Best-suited to play over the tight end in a 4-3 but could work as an outside linebacker in the 3-4. Will stamp you when he hits and has some natural pass-rush skills ".


 

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I was excited about him, but the more I read, the less thrilled I am. I think I'd rather draft Lawson or Wimberly.
 
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The only negative thing I'll say is he doesn't have any real experience in a 3-4 defense. But when you hear things like "natural pass rusher" and "better suited for a 3-4 defense" that automatically becomes music to my ears!!
 

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lzppjb said:
I was excited about him, but the more I read, the less thrilled I am. I think I'd rather draft Lawson or Wimberly.

yes, this is what happens to all of us who read up on the guy.
 
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lzppjb said:
I was excited about him, but the more I read, the less thrilled I am. I think I'd rather draft Lawson or Wimberly.

Not me, I'd rather have the "sure" thing rather than overpaying for a draft pick that could potentially not pan out.
 

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Will someone please tell me why so many forum fans excited about getting him. Can't see him as a starter, but as a backup like Fujita -- except Fujita is smarter.
 

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sago1 said:
Will someone please tell me why so many forum fans excited about getting him. Can't see him as a starter, but as a backup like Fujita -- except Fujita is smarter.

he's from Dallas - that's all I can see.
 

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Is he a "sure" thing? I'm not completely sure.

And I don't think we'd overpay for a 2nd round draft choice. We'd pay what we normally do for that slot.
 

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He is highly ovwer rated..
I would pass on him ....
Losts of good linebackerrs in the draft , fi this is all we can do in FA than I say save the cash and draft the position
 

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Sounds like a pretty boy who likes to party.

Pass.
 

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ThreeSportStar80 said:
The only negative thing I'll say is he doesn't have any real experience in a 3-4 defense. But when you hear things like "natural pass rusher" and "better suited for a 3-4 defense" that automatically becomes music to my ears!!
NATURAL PASS RUSHER!!!!:laugh2:
I would hardly call 8.5 sacks over 4 years pass rushing. That's little over 2 sacks a year and he's never had more than 3 in a year. Heck, Ebenezer Ekuban was better than that.
 

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NATURAL PASS RUSHER!!!!:laugh2:
I would hardly call 8.5 sacks over 4 years pass rushing. That's little over 2 sacks a year and he's never had more than 3 in a year. Heck, Ebenezer Ekuban was better than that.

Everyone seems to forget that this guy plays in a 4-3. He is built for the 3-4. Brady James looked like he might be a bust until the scheme was changed to fit his strengths. Who would you rather have? Burnett? Arrington? Peterson? Witherspoon? Not alot of options out there and unfortunately Adoyele is the best OLBer for the 3-4 scheme available in the FA market.
 

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neosapien23 said:
Everyone seems to forget that this guy plays in a 4-3. He is built for the 3-4. Brady James looked like he might be a bust until the scheme was changed to fit his strengths. Who would you rather have? Burnett? Arrington? Peterson? Witherspoon? Not alot of options out there and unfortunately Adoyele is the best OLBer for the 3-4 scheme available in the FA market.
Actually I would rather have Kalimba Edwards or Andre Carter and I think both would be better than Adoyele as 3-4 OLB's because they have more speed. Burnett hasn't played enough to prove that he's not the answer either just like James before last year. But hey, I'm no GM or paid talent evaluator so I just hope if we do sign him he pans out.
 

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neosapien23 said:
Everyone seems to forget that this guy plays in a 4-3. He is built for the 3-4.
That is the whole key to Ayodele. BP knows LB's.
 

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big dog cowboy said:
That is the whole key to Ayodele. BP knows LB's.
Now if he only knew OL's.:D
Johnson,Rogers,Peterman,Petitti,Rivera.........
 

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Z-Man said:
Now if he only knew OL's.:D
Johnson,Rogers,Peterman,Petitti,Rivera.........
Now that is a serious position of interest this of season, it will be interesting to see how our line plays next year. Very interesting indeed.
 

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big dog cowboy said:
Now that is a serious position of interest this of season, it will be interesting to see how our line plays next year. Very interesting indeed.
So far we've signed 2 guys younger than 30, so that's already a positive.
 

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Fans will always pick apart a player that they are losing to assuade their sense of loss.
We'd pick apart Roy W if we were losing him.
Ayodele is a good player and probably going to do better in a 3-4. He's a good deal better than Al S IMO and younger. We need 2-3 LBs this offseason because in the 3-4, LB rotation is everything.
We'll probably draft two also. Not a lot of good choices in FA.
 
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