Sturm - Marinelli Report - Philadelphia

[Sturm1310]

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...i-report-crowning-new-splash-champion-defense

 

[NorthTexan95]

Strum talks about how the Cowboys aren't putting the resources into the defense. They did under Parcells and especially with his first draft. They did the one year with Rob Ryan when they drafted Claiborn and signed Carr. However, I believe Garrett wanted this type of defense because it didn't require overwhelming talent to succeed. Instead, this defense does need talent but we don't need one guy getting 15 sacks or an All Pro corner. You can maximize the talent you have with scheme and effort and save valuable resources (picks, money) for the offense when you probably get a better return on the investment.

 

[reddyuta]

Strum talks about how the Cowboys aren't putting the resources into the defense. They did under Parcells and especially with his first draft. They did the one year with Rob Ryan when they drafted Claiborn and signed Carr. However, I believe Garrett wanted this type of defense because it didn't require overwhelming talent to succeed. Instead, this defense does need talent but we don't need one guy getting 15 sacks or an All Pro corner. You can maximize the talent you have with scheme and effort and save valuable resources (picks, money) for the offense when you probably get a better return on the investment.

That doesn't help in the playoffs where the team with better defense most often wins.

 

[Maxmadden]

Strum talks about how the Cowboys aren't putting the resources into the defense. They did under Parcells and especially with his first draft. They did the one year with Rob Ryan when they drafted Claiborn and signed Carr. However, I believe Garrett wanted this type of defense because it didn't require overwhelming talent to succeed. Instead, this defense does need talent but we don't need one guy getting 15 sacks or an All Pro corner. You can maximize the talent you have with scheme and effort and save valuable resources (picks, money) for the offense when you probably get a better return on the investment.

I suggest everyone read the article, this is a spin opinion and doesn't convey Sturm's intention.

 

[Kaiser]

Strum talks about how the Cowboys aren't putting the resources into the defense. They did under Parcells and especially with his first draft. They did the one year with Rob Ryan when they drafted Claiborn and signed Carr. However, I believe Garrett wanted this type of defense because it didn't require overwhelming talent to succeed. Instead, this defense does need talent but we don't need one guy getting 15 sacks or an All Pro corner. You can maximize the talent you have with scheme and effort and save valuable resources (picks, money) for the offense when you probably get a better return on the investment.

Totally agree. Its not about total dollars, Marinelli's DL style is a wave attack adn the Cowboys have spent money on the key positions of their defense like #1 CB, #2 CB, SS, Will, and 3T (TCrawford). Other key positions like RDE, FS, 3T (Collins), Mike, and 1T have young players on their rookie contracts or a good reclamation guy playing like McClain.

We also spent money on a secondary position when we signed Thornton as a FA and some people complained.

 

[Idgit]

Strum talks about how the Cowboys aren't putting the resources into the defense. They did under Parcells and especially with his first draft. They did the one year with Rob Ryan when they drafted Claiborn and signed Carr. However, I believe Garrett wanted this type of defense because it didn't require overwhelming talent to succeed. Instead, this defense does need talent but we don't need one guy getting 15 sacks or an All Pro corner. You can maximize the talent you have with scheme and effort and save valuable resources (picks, money) for the offense when you probably get a better return on the investment.

They did say that the new CBA and the rules that came with it were a factor in firing Ryan and going back to the 4-3 at the time. The year before we'd had a bunch of secondary injuries and brought in players off the street who were starting at S for us after 10 days of practice and couldn't get up to speed in coverage and it hurt us. The simpler defense with the emphasis on technique coupled with targeting players on their physical (SPARQ) measurements means you can substitute players more liberally. It puts the pressure on finding athletes, letting you churn the roster and then develop their technique at leisure once you have guys you know you like. You can fill holes when people get injured (which happens more often on defense than it does on offense, actually) and maintain a higher level of play if you're rotating properly.

In theory, it makes sense. But you still need 8 DLs who are good enough to play, and the rosters are limited enough that it's hard to churn sufficiently when your team is winning and you need to position for the playoffs. In previous years, we kept a spot or two handy to add players from other teams' practice squads. This year, we're needing those spots for downside protection because we're keying up for a playoff run. It's a good problem to have.

Overall, though, I'd be happier with 3-4 more 1st, 2nd, 3rd round picks on this defensive roster. Try hard and well-coached only get you so far. At some point, you need the talent guys like Gregory and Jaylon Smith have if you're going to have impact plays on both sides of the ball.

 

[xwalker]

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I seems like Wilson could be the starting MLB next year. I know he was playing SLB and WLB this season but Lee is the WLB and the SLB rarely plays.

Nzeocha looked Ok and might get a shot at MLB next season but Wilson is obviously ahead of him as an NFL player at this point.

Maybe Hitchen stays at MLB in the base with Wilson and Lee as the LBs in the Nickel.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Overall, though, I'd be happier with 3-4 more 1st, 2nd, 3rd round picks on this defensive roster. Try hard and well-coached only get you so far. At some point, you need the talent guys like Gregory and Jaylon Smith have if you're going to have impact plays on both sides of the ball.

My mantra is still all defense this spring. Add in Gregory, Smith and Tapper and now we're cooking with fire!

 

[xwalker]

They did say that the new CBA and the rules that came with it were a factor in firing Ryan and going back to the 4-3 at the time. The year before we'd had a bunch of secondary injuries and brought in players off the street who were starting at S for us after 10 days of practice and couldn't get up to speed in coverage and it hurt us. The simpler defense with the emphasis on technique coupled with targeting players on their physical (SPARQ) measurements means you can substitute players more liberally. It puts the pressure on finding athletes, letting you churn the roster and then develop their technique at leisure once you have guys you know you like. You can fill holes when people get injured (which happens more often on defense than it does on offense, actually) and maintain a higher level of play if you're rotating properly.

In theory, it makes sense. But you still need 8 DLs who are good enough to play, and the rosters are limited enough that it's hard to churn sufficiently when your team is winning and you need to position for the playoffs. In previous years, we kept a spot or two handy to add players from other teams' practice squads. This year, we're needing those spots for downside protection because we're keying up for a playoff run. It's a good problem to have.

Overall, though, I'd be happier with 3-4 more 1st, 2nd, 3rd round picks on this defensive roster. Try hard and well-coached only get you so far. At some point, you need the talent guys like Gregory and Jaylon Smith have if you're going to have impact plays on both sides of the ball.

The Strong Side OLB in Rob Ryans defense was a really complicated position. It was why they kept franchising Spencer. That player had to be a 3-tool player (pass rush, coverage and run defense) and often had to cover the RB.

Rob Ryan often had Ware read-and-react which caused him to be delayed in his pass rush.

The biggest problem with Rob Ryan was the he focused on scheme over fundamentals. It was hard to ever develop consistency with that type of approach. If Ryan devised the right game plan and called a good game, his defense could be really good, but if he was off, then the entire unit was off.

With Marinelli and his focus on fundamentals, even if he departed, the players would still be well trained; whereas, with RR, they were starting over on defense when he was gone.

 

[xwalker]

My mantra is still all defense this spring. Add in Gregory, Smith and Tapper and now we're cooking with fire!

I want to make certain that the offense stays as dominant as possible. I would draft an OT and WR if those are BPA.

 

[NorthTexan95]

I suggest everyone read the article, this is a spin opinion and doesn't convey Sturm's intention.

I don't understand your comment. What spin? Sturm states that we don't spend a ton of resources on the defense which is obvious. I just point out that we have spent resources in the past.

 

[LocimusPrime]

They did say that the new CBA and the rules that came with it were a factor in firing Ryan and going back to the 4-3 at the time. The year before we'd had a bunch of secondary injuries and brought in players off the street who were starting at S for us after 10 days of practice and couldn't get up to speed in coverage and it hurt us. The simpler defense with the emphasis on technique coupled with targeting players on their physical (SPARQ) measurements means you can substitute players more liberally. It puts the pressure on finding athletes, letting you churn the roster and then develop their technique at leisure once you have guys you know you like. You can fill holes when people get injured (which happens more often on defense than it does on offense, actually) and maintain a higher level of play if you're rotating properly.

In theory, it makes sense. But you still need 8 DLs who are good enough to play, and the rosters are limited enough that it's hard to churn sufficiently when your team is winning and you need to position for the playoffs. In previous years, we kept a spot or two handy to add players from other teams' practice squads. This year, we're needing those spots for downside protection because we're keying up for a playoff run. It's a good problem to have.

Overall, though, I'd be happier with 3-4 more 1st, 2nd, 3rd round picks on this defensive roster. Try hard and well-coached only get you so far. At some point, you need the talent guys like Gregory and Jaylon Smith have if you're going to have impact plays on both sides of the ball.

 

[LocimusPrime]

2-3 key free agent signings plus a heavy defensive draft and we should trending in the right direction.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I seems like Wilson could be the starting MLB next year. I know he was playing SLB and WLB this season but Lee is the WLB and the SLB rarely plays.

Nzeocha looked Ok and might get a shot at MLB next season but Wilson is obviously ahead of him as an NFL player at this point.

Maybe Hitchen stays at MLB in the base with Wilson and Lee as the LBs in the Nickel.

2 words.....Jaylon Smith

 

[xwalker]

2 words.....Jaylon Smith

I don't like to count on him playing.

It will be a great bonus if he does, but as of right now he can't play football.

 

[LocimusPrime]

Let's get a difference maker DE

 

[Longboysfan]

I suggest everyone read the article, this is a spin opinion and doesn't convey Sturm's intention.

But in this day of the NFL Offense sells tickets.

Look at the best defense - well IMO - Seattle.

You can't keep everyone and a key injury here or there really hurts.
This defense is built of multiple replaceable parts.

Well maybe not Lee to the degree of the others.

 

[Longboysfan]

2-3 key free agent signings plus a heavy defensive draft and we should trending in the right direction.

No. Stay at the draft and keep getting better players.
FA - too pricy for the type of team we have here.

 

[xwalker]

No. Stay at the draft and keep getting better players.
FA - too pricy for the type of team we have here.

It does not have to be top tier free agents.

They need to consider outside free agents when contemplating signing their own free agents.

The team's success could drive up the price to re-sign their own guys (TWill) while more talented players (T. Pryor) might be a better value.

 

[visionary]

Not counting the people we already have and might re-sign, we need

1. Difference maker at DE
2. Another good DE if Lawrence and/or Tapper can't be counted on
3. Starting caliber DT
4. Starter at MLB