Sturm Q&A on the QB Situation

Alexander

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Q: RGIII, Johnny Manziel, Jared Goff, Paxton Lynch. Rank these from most ideal to worst for the Cowboys as a backup QB next year. -- Uri

Well, Uri, this is 2 completely different categories of acquisition. The first 2 are damaged former first round picks that are at similar, yet different spots in their careers. The other 2 are top prospects in this draft and while they are very exciting players who could potentially be that guy, the fact is that it would require the Cowboys to give up their biggest draft asset in years and years to pull the trigger on the guy. So, let's examine each one here:

Griffin is the veteran you would want most. He is 25 and unlike Manziel, seems to understand what is required of him to be a professional QB1. There is so much to this, but the first step is understanding that anything else in your life cannot be a priority if you want to do this for a living. Wide receivers or corner backs can live dual lives, but for the most part, you will find that your general superstar QBs in the NFL live very boring and/or anonymous public lives outside of football. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, and even Tony Romo and that group either don't go out hardly at all, or do so in a way that TMZ doesn't know nor care about it. They also haven't used the bullet in their gun of being seen as party guys or borderline alcoholics in the first place. Griffin seems to get all of this and then handled himself this season in the face of controversy like a pro. Now, can he still play? Can you trust his body? Can his head still handle the pressure of NFL defenses asking him to take a hit to make a play? The physical toll on his knees and body have been tremendous for a player his age and the hopes would be that this year has gotten his body right and his head right, too. However, Griffin also might be high on the list of teams who desire a starter and he has to know if he comes here he is still a backup for now. That may not be appealing for a player who sees the clock is ticking and that he has just wasted a year in his prime in Washington.

Manziel is not appealing to me in the slightest. I had hopes for his career, but at the age of 23, he doesn't appear to "get it" which can mean a number of different things, but they all apply. I wish he understood what his job requires and I wish he understood how rare his talents are and I wish he realized how many top prospects wasted everything because they were young and dumb. I really think he has a lot of talent inside him, but he is not willing to sacrifice the life for the job. That is his prerogative, but the road is paved with guys who make similar choices and then live the rest of their lives with regret. I wish this made more sense, but I don't believe I would pick Manziel at this point of his life over just about anyone. Not here. Not this organization and the full time party that Dallas and Cowboys' football could mean to a guy like that.

Now, to the draftables. Both Lynch and Goff are fantastic prospects. I need to finish my Goff write-up, but I already know his quality and have no doubts I would take him if he is still there. Lynch is someone people argue a bit more about, but I think Lynch is pretty special and is worth a top pick. Here is my profile of his fine work. So, if you want ideal, the idea must be to get your stater for the next decade after Romo, but that will be expensive. I would do it, but just understand the costs involved. And, as many of you understand, there are no guarantees when you take a college prospect. But, understand, this is football. There are no guarantees anywhere. See the 2015 Cowboys.

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...mailbag-rgiii-manziel-randy-gregorys-breakout
 

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I think that is a good write up. I would have no interest in Johnny Football. I think RG3 is going to have options and possibly options where he has an open competition to be a starter. I think in the end this will take precedence over playing for America's team. I can see RG3 in Houston, St Louis or maybe even San Fran before I can see him signing with Dallas. I just think he will have more options.

I do not know about the draft prospects yet at QB, but I think they are the more realistic options right now.
 

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Not especially fond of Cook.

I'm not especially fond of Lynch myself. It's not a knock on him personally, but I think he's still a bit raw and I don't trust this staff to help him to realize his potential.
 
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Goff or Lynch. And Wentz is starting to grow on me. Although I'm not sure at #4. By April, I think he will be a top 15 pick. Maybe top 10.
 

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Replace Cook with Wentz.

I'm intrigued, but his small school status scares me some. Yeah I know, Romo came from one too, but there's only one Tony.

So that kinda pushes my views on Wentz in the direction of a full on project. I'm tired of the projects. Because we have such a high pick, let's finally roll the dice on a QB that played D 1 ball against D 1 competition. Pedigree. No more projects.

With that said, Wentz could be the real deal and I could be totally off base.
 

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RG3 is more talented than Manziel and has actually produced in the NFL. That being said, I'd take neither. Give me Goff at 4 or trade back into the later top 10 and get Lynch or Wentz.
 

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Q: RGIII, Johnny Manziel, Jared Goff, Paxton Lynch. Rank these from most ideal to worst for the Cowboys as a backup QB next year. -- Uri

Well, Uri, this is 2 completely different categories of acquisition. The first 2 are damaged former first round picks that are at similar, yet different spots in their careers. The other 2 are top prospects in this draft and while they are very exciting players who could potentially be that guy, the fact is that it would require the Cowboys to give up their biggest draft asset in years and years to pull the trigger on the guy. So, let's examine each one here:

Maybe I'm slow, but I didn't understand the underlined at all. What draft asset would we have to give up to draft either? :huh:
 

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This video is exactly why Brandon Weeden should've never been replaced with Matt Cassel. Weeden's strength is throwing deep, so the Cowboys should've gotten him a deep threat when he replaced Romo. Why the Cowboys had Weeden throwing short passes is beyond me; the guy has a rocket arm. Here he throws with pinpoint accuracy to Josh Gordon, 60 yards of it in the air!

 

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no 4 pick.

I still don't understand. We have the #4 pick. Why would we have to give it up as if we'll get nothing in return? And why is it our biggest asset in years?

Is he saying that it would require us to give up our best draft position in years to acquire a quarterback?

Even then, you're supposed to pick the best players with the higher pick. Again, I don't want to be too critical if I'm not understanding, but the way it's worded just isn't clear and just doesn't make sense.
 
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This video is exactly why Brandon Weeden should've never been replaced with Matt Cassel. Weeden's strength is throwing deep, so the Cowboys should've gotten him a deep threat when he replaced Romo. Why the Cowboys had Weeden throwing short passes is beyond me; the guy has a rocket arm. Here he throws with pinpoint accuracy to Josh Gordon, 60 yards of it in the air!



Ancient history. Time to move on.
 

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I'm intrigued, but his small school status scares me some. Yeah I know, Romo came from one too, but there's only one Tony.

So that kinda pushes my views on Wentz in the direction of a full on project. I'm tired of the projects. Because we have such a high pick, let's finally roll the dice on a QB that played D 1 ball against D 1 competition. Pedigree. No more projects.

With that said, Wentz could be the real deal and I could be totally off base.

Big ben came from a small school too. Just saying
 
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