Sturminator's Costa video

41gy#;4340145 said:
Now, that is a dose of reality. Great post and solid points all around...

Felix Jones and DeMarco Murray have combined for 1,442 rushing yards on a combined 280 rushing attempts. That is a combined 5.15 yards per rush. The Cowboys have rushed for 1,758 yards as a team.

Moreover, Jones averages 6.1 YPC on designated "middle" runs according to STATS LLC. Murray averages 6.6 YPC on designated "middle" runs according to STATS LLC.

I'm pretty sure that I could go find Costa "winning" on some of Jones' and Murray's runs this year. For example, Murray's 91T and Jones' 26 yard run against the Giants...

Costa has seen his ups and downs, but I've seen him be a positive factor in the running game, too.

Nice post, guy...:)
 
Costa's one of the worst starting players I've seen here.

I'd have released him three months ago.
 
Risen Star;4340287 said:
Costa's one of the worst starting players I've seen here.

I'd have released him three months ago.

He's one of coach Jerruh's hand picked Pro Bowlers.
 
Phoenix;4339325 said:
Bob sent a tweet:

SportsSturm Bob Sturm



Here is a little video I have put together of Phil Costa's rough 1st year as starting center: vimeo.com/34295539

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............worst center to ever wear a Cowboy uni...I've been watching since '78....I cant speak to any before that but..........he's GOTTA be the worst ever...what a joke.:bang2: .................nice decision gm jerrah....nah, we didn't need Gurode: not at all.:rolleyes:
 
newlander;4340339 said:
............worst center to ever wear a Cowboy uni...I've been watching since '78....I cant speak to any before that but..........he's GOTTA be the worst ever...what a joke.:bang2: .................nice decision gm jerrah....nah, we didn't need Gurode: not at all.:rolleyes:

Clay Shiver was far worse.
 
Cowboys22;4339591 said:
Yes, I've watched every game. You can't tell me Costa gets beat on every single snap. Therefore, one could also make a highlight tape of him owning people. That was my point. Sure, he gets beat. All OL do. If someone comes along thats better than him, then sure, put him on the bench but I would spend a high draft pick or tons of FA money to replace him. I'd rather continue to let him develop and spend those resources on CBs and safties that can cover and a OLB to play opposite Ware that will actually play with some heart and desire.

Just go back and watch the last game we had against the Eagles if you can.

Costa was exploited every which way you want.

I know it is very hard to concentrate on one player when you watch a game, but you really need to sit down and watch him on each play.

It will open your eyes.
 
Alexander;4340436 said:
Why would anyone want to remember Pettiti fondly?

:D Become a Great Grandparent...you'll understand.
 
He's just not strong enough and is INCREDILY slow out of his stance compared to others at his position. He wouldnt even earn a scholorship at a major BCS school, so why in the world is he the starting center for the Dallas Cowboys?
 
41gy#;4340145 said:
Now, that is a dose of reality. Great post and solid points all around...

Felix Jones and DeMarco Murray have combined for 1,442 rushing yards on a combined 280 rushing attempts. That is a combined 5.15 yards per rush. The Cowboys have rushed for 1,758 yards as a team.

Moreover, Jones averages 6.1 YPC on designated "middle" runs according to STATS LLC. Murray averages 6.6 YPC on designated "middle" runs according to STATS LLC.

I'm pretty sure that I could go find Costa "winning" on some of Jones' and Murray's runs this year. For example, Murray's 91T and Jones' 26 yard run against the Giants...

Costa has seen his ups and downs, but I've seen him be a positive factor in the running game, too.

He has shown improvement right along. People want to peg him as the whipping boy, but the guy has made a lot of improvement. He needs to work on his technique, improve his strength and more importantly his balance.

He has good quickness in the run game and does lay down blocks at the second level. Much better in the run game than the pass game, but he does have a ton of upside and we have seen some this season. An example; He solved the bad snap issues- while Gurode never could.

Not saying he will be the starter next season, he will have to earn his spot. Along with the rest of the interior of the o-line. If we had better talent at guard, he could get some help- but those guys have their own hands full and couldn't help Costa if they wanted to on most plays.

Right now, Costa would be a back up on most NFL teams. Maybe the coaches see more potential than we realize and are willing to suffer the growing pains with him?
 
JoeCorrado;4340453 said:
He has shown improvement right along. People want to peg him as the whipping boy, but the guy has made a lot of improvement. He needs to work on his technique, improve his strength and more importantly his balance.

He has good quickness in the run game and does lay down blocks at the second level. Much better in the run game than the pass game, but he does have a ton of upside and we have seen some this season. An example; He solved the bad snap issues- while Gurode never could.

Not saying he will be the starter next season, he will have to earn his spot. Along with the rest of the interior of the o-line. If we had better talent at guard, he could get some help- but those guys have their own hands full and couldn't help Costa if they wanted to on most plays.

Right now, Costa would be a back up on most NFL teams. Maybe the coaches see more potential than we realize and are willing to suffer the growing pains with him?

Snap issues. Really. Not sure why you think Costa is decent, when virtually no one else does. By the way how many bad snaps did Gurode have the last two years he was here? maybe you need to think about that
 
This team for over a decaade has failed to evaluate critical positions that are imperative to the team being successful over a long period of time. Only just for 4-5 plays a game while Romo does something magical and scores 35 points (Garrretts offense FTW! LOOK AT ALL THESE RJ POINTS!)

I challenge any Cowboy fan to go back and look at this team's TDs this year, almost every one of our passing TDs result in Tony Romo doing something unconventional, and going against the grain of the initial play design.

This offense doesn't work, our receivers barely get seperation, our line can't open running lanes, they can't protect - Romo just covers all those inadequacies. So Jerry, Jason, and the powers that be (the rest of their families) - hide behind those offensive stats and act like the defense/ST is the reason we don't win.

Romo is the reason we are even competitive, why we are even talking playoffs, and this is the best we can do to protect him?
 
I've been crying for a bunch of good 'big ugglies' for the past three seasons. We got some, last draft. Hopefully, more moves to come.
 
burmafrd;4340579 said:
Snap issues. Really. Not sure why you think Costa is decent, when virtually no one else does. By the way how many bad snaps did Gurode have the last two years he was here? maybe you need to think about that

Did I say that he was "decent" somewhere? I said that he has "improved" during the season. I said that he would be a backup on most rosters. I said he needs to improve his strength and balance. I said he gets tossed around like a rag doll. I don't recall any "He is decent." statements though- certainly not in the post you responded to.

I know I have said many things about Costa. Maybe I said that he has a
chance to be decent if he addresses his weaknesses?

A link would be helpful for that "Costa is decent" statement. I'm getting old and sometimes I stay up too late at night. :p:
 
He has good quickness in the run game and does lay down blocks at the second level. Much better in the run game than the pass game, but he does have a ton of upside and we have seen some this season.
your words
I chose to use fewer words but that is how I would describe decent. Fess up you think he is or you would not have 50 posts desperately defending him
 
burmafrd;4340983 said:
He has good quickness in the run game and does lay down blocks at the second level. Much better in the run game than the pass game, but he does have a ton of upside and we have seen some this season.
your words
I chose to use fewer words but that is how I would describe decent. Fess up you think he is or you would not have 50 posts desperately defending him

You have an agenda, that much is certain. Take a look at what I stated, take the post in it's entirety if you want to understand the context. I do happen to believe that Costa has gotten better, do you disagree? It is fine if you do- I won't lose any sleep over it.

In all honesty, an attribute that you seem to have only limited command, here it is- slowly, just for you:

Backup on any other team... is that a description of decent, in your mind?

Improvement is relative. Up side, is relative. Better run blocking than in pass protection, all of these descriptions are relative. All relative to a young player with upside, who would at this time, be a back up on most teams.

I know that the 50 posts a day you allude to, where I am "defending" Costa is simply an asinine misstatement, I would never accuse you of lying simply to belittle me, or to embellish your sophomoric attempt at debate, but really, fella.

Stay focused kid, we can get through this together. :cool:
 
The30YardSlant;4340447 said:
He's just not strong enough and is INCREDILY slow out of his stance compared to others at his position. He wouldnt even earn a scholorship at a major BCS school, so why in the world is he the starting center for the Dallas Cowboys?

Because the coaches say so. They are reallly, really, REALLY smart in evaluating talent.

Next question.

:laugh2:

CCBoy;4340618 said:
I've been crying for a bunch of good 'big ugglies' for the past three seasons. We got some, last draft. Hopefully, more moves to come.

Well, they don't have to be ugly. Just pretty good players, with an attitude that says I ain't your little boy - when dealing with opponents who may feel like intimidation or bully tactics are a good option to use against us. Give as well as get, types.

Not that I have anything against ugly. ;)
 
Somebody (Goose or Sturm) the other day made a very good point. He said that nobody who watched the o-line in 1989 or 1990 would have envisioned greatness for guys like Newton, Tuinei, or Gogan--all of whom were Landry holdovers. And yet they all went to Pro Bowls. Whether Costa is a bum or a budding flower remains to be seen.
 
bbgun;4341015 said:
Somebody (Goose or Sturm) the other day made a very good point. He said that nobody who watched the o-line in 1989 or 1990 would have envisioned greatness for guys like Newton, Tuinei, or Gogan--all of whom were Landry holdovers. And yet they all went to Pro Bowls. Whether Costa is a bum or a budding flower remains to be seen.

Thank you. Even talent takes time to bloom, or drop by the wayside in the NFL. How many players have we released or given up on- only to regret it later when they became very productive, or even Pro Bowlers elsewhere?

I am sure that we could name a few painful memories of what might have been had we had the patience or the willingness to go through the "process" with them.

The coaches see something. They pretty much have to- they risk Romo with every snap. The risk/reward rule says that there is something they like and see worth developing.

Or... our coaches are just idiots and all is lost. ;)
 
bbgun;4341015 said:
Somebody (Goose or Sturm) the other day made a very good point. He said that nobody who watched the o-line in 1989 or 1990 would have envisioned greatness for guys like Newton, Tuinei, or Gogan--all of whom were Landry holdovers. And yet they all went to Pro Bowls. Whether Costa is a bum or a budding flower remains to be seen.

I think the fact that he's weak and has short arms are things that are just hard to overcome in the NFL.
 
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