Surely y'all have noticed that when we talk personnel we talk bout Jerra and not Wade

[GimmeTheBall!]

I find myself wondering what Jerra's next move will be.

A dramatic trade for a CB or RB?

A draft day stunner involving two drafts picks?

A blue-chip safety who can cover and hits like the Roy Williams of years past?

But when we talk about the guys we need to have to succeed, to take us to the playoffs, yea I say unto you the Super Bowl, we always ask ourselves what jerra might do. Somehow, Wade doesn't seem to enter the equation.http://img233.*************/img233/553/cupcakekz9.gif

It's always jerra/jerrah this and jerra/jerrah that.

Is this a bad this to you?
A good thing?


How do you feel about recent coaches (Parcells being the exception) taking such a low-profile and subservient role to Jerra in seemingly all matters personnel?

And lastly, if I may say, it's the offseason.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

its not a bad thing to me at all. afterall Jerry owns the Dallas Cowboys, not Wade.

 

[TheCount]

Is that supposed to be you? :laugh2:

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Is that supposed to be you? :laugh2:

That was meant to hurt, wasn't it?

 

[BigDFan5]

you find it odd that people think about the GM of the team when they think of moves that team may make?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

you find it odd that people think about the GM of the team when they think of moves that team may make?

No, crotchety doctor.
That the HC seems to be entirely out of the picture, at least publically. And they way Jerra talks up the media, unlike Wade.
Not too many owners this proactive.
btw: I am a big fan of Jerra.

 

[BigDFan5]

No, crotchety doctor.
That the HC seems to be entirely out of the picture, at least publically. And they way Jerra talks up the media, unlike Wade.
Not too many owners this proactive.
btw: I am a big fan of Jerra.

Byt really who cares about public perception? We know Wade is getting a say in the process, we also know Jerry is the GM with the final say. So why does it matter what we hear in the media

 

[Royal Laegotti]

I find myself wondering what Jerra's next move will be.

A dramatic trade for a CB or RB?

A draft day stunner involving two drafts picks?

A blue-chip safety who can cover and hits like the Roy Williams of years past?

But when we talk about the guys we need to have to succeed, to take us to the playoffs, yea I say unto you the Super Bowl, we always ask ourselves what jerra might do. Somehow, Wade doesn't seem to enter the equation.http://img233.*************/img233/553/cupcakekz9.gif

It's always jerra/jerrah this and jerra/jerrah that.

Is this a bad this to you?
A good thing?


How do you feel about recent coaches (Parcells being the exception) taking such a low-profile and subservient role to Jerra in seemingly all matters personnel?

And lastly, if I may say, it's the offseason.

Man it's always about Jerra, it will always be about Jerra! And when Jerra's dead I bet Jerra's ghost will still try to run the Cowboys.

To me it is bad that he and not some brilliant head coach like *cough, cough* umm Jimmy is not running the team.

It's a bad thing to me judging this franchise's track record since '95, and worse it's track record in the playoffs since '95 and the draft since '94. The only decent drafts we had since Jimmy was when Bill was here and I guess last years draft is still up in the air.

Since he owns the team he has the right to run it as he wants, I guess that's supposed to excite me or something?

 

[FolsomCowboy]

No, crotchety doctor.
That the HC seems to be entirely out of the picture, at least publically. And they way Jerra talks up the media, unlike Wade.
Not too many owners this proactive.
btw: I am a big fan of Jerra.

Are you really a big fan? It seems the term Jerra/Jerrah is not a term of endearment or respect

 

[Royal Laegotti]

Are you really a big fan? It seems the term Jerra/Jerrah is not a term of endearment or respect

Believe it or not I'm a big fan or atleast I consider myself to be and I don't have just a ton of endearment or respect for Jethro's way of running the Cowboys for the better part of a decade

 

[THUMPER]

The GM of nearly all teams makes the personnel decisions. Back in the day, it was Gil Brandt & Tex Schramm who made the personnel decisions for the Cowboys, not Tom Landry. Now the 3 of them worked together come draft day (Gil, Tom, & Tex) but they trusted Brandt to make the right decisions on FAs and trades.

Landry decided who would play and where but he wasn't the guy "buying the groceries" for the most part. He told Gil & Tex what he needed and they went out and got them for him. That's how it is for most teams, unless the HC is also the GM.

In our case, the owner is also the GM. I don't see that how we are doing things in the offseason is much different than how most teams work.

 

[cowboyed]

I find myself wondering what Jerra's next move will be.

A dramatic trade for a CB or RB?

A draft day stunner involving two drafts picks?

A blue-chip safety who can cover and hits like the Roy Williams of years past?

But when we talk about the guys we need to have to succeed, to take us to the playoffs, yea I say unto you the Super Bowl, we always ask ourselves what jerra might do. Somehow, Wade doesn't seem to enter the equation.http://img233.*************/img233/553/cupcakekz9.gif

It's always jerra/jerrah this and jerra/jerrah that.

Is this a bad this to you?
A good thing?


How do you feel about recent coaches (Parcells being the exception) taking such a low-profile and subservient role to Jerra in seemingly all matters personnel?

And lastly, if I may say, it's the offseason.

And what are the implications? Jerry has taken total control? Wade is low key but involved in the personnel decision making particularly on defense. Seriously if the owner rankles you this much take a break from the team.

 

[superpunk]

you find it odd that people think about the GM of the team when they think of moves that team may make?

It is amazing. A General Manager being perceived as a primary decision maker on personnel issues?

This is an amazing concept.

There are a handful of GMs in the league who get that kind of treatment, because of their success and visibility. Jerry, Scott Pioli, Bill Polian, heck Bill Parcells is perceived as making all the decisions in Miami even though Ireland is the GM. Reese gets all the credit for the Giants personnel last year, with shouts out to Accorsi. These individuals' primary responsibility is player acquisition and management, so no **** sherlock...they are the primary talking point when it comes to player acquisition and management. It's a complete non-issue, unless you're an antagonist.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Surely y'all have noticed that when we talk personnel we talk bout Jerra and not Wade

You say that like it is a bad thing.

 

[TheCount]

That was meant to hurt, wasn't it?

Nah, I actually enjoy reading your posts.

I think that Wade certainly has an input, but at this point, I think Garrett has just as much a say as Wade does. Personally, I'd rather Jerry do what he's doing than to let either Wade have more say than Garrett or the other way around, seeing as how he's basically hired two head coaches.

It might just start unneeded conflict.

 

[Mansta54]

Ahh JJ is the GM, not Wade.....

 

[sago1]

Not all of Parcells drafts with the Cowboys were that good.

Our 2003 draft (Newman/Witten were great but don't remember rest); we also signed an undrafted rookie QB who turned out pretty good.

Don't remember much about 2004.

2005 was a great draft year with Ware, Spears (solid), Canty, Barber, Ratliff.

2006 not good at all (Carpenter ST, Fasano backup TE, Hatcher backup DE, Green gone, Watkins backup FS, Stanley gone, McQuistan backup OT. Still have hopes for Hatcher/Watkins & McQuistan.

Now 2007 was first w/o Parcells but we still had Ireland and I think it's looking pretty good: Spencer looked pretty good while playing in place of Ellis, Marten still waiting, Free looked good in TC but still waiting, Stanbach still waiting, Folk looks good, Anderson looking pretty decent before he went on IR & 7th rounders Ball & Brown made the team which is best you can hope.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

The OP is on ignore, but I think Wade has significant input into what we do, as all coaches under Jerry have. Parcells might have had the most, but they've all had a huge say IMO. Campo talked about how he loved Antonio Bryant at the combine. The Super Bowl XXX replay reminded of how we got Ernie Mills for Gailey. We all know about the Parcells input -- Bobby Carp and Fasano weren't coincidences.

And neither is the fact that Wade said he'd thought for years now that Leonard Davis was a very underrated player, and how Ken Hamlin was acquired to be the "quarterback of the secondary" almost exactly like Marlon McCree was for him in San Diego. I don't think Jerry decided on his own that he needed to spend a first round pick on a converted DE from Purdue to play OLB in Wade's D.

So I think Wade has tons of input. He just doesn't have the persona and reputation that Parcells did, so we don't talk about him.

 

[Hostile]

I have noticed that the GM is involved. I have never figured out why that is an invitation to a finger nail and Maalox diet for some people and why they think I will be interested in that diet.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I have said it before and I will say it again: No owner is as proactive and enthusiastic and lives and breathes football like Jerra.
I would have no other owner other than jerra.
I have been calling Gerald Jerra so long that it would be difficult to stop but I would take a bullet for this man. Ok, maybe not a bullet, but I would dodge it and try to save Jerra as well. But then I would be a hero in Jerra's eyes and some of you would not like that.

As for the GM making decisions, I an trying to think of another owner who acts as GM and is as high profile as Jerra. I cannot, but that does not mean there are not other similar situations.

But to crystallize the premise: Wade does not seem to figure in the way the team is run. Or maybe that is just the public persona.

And now is see that the Count throws in a monkey wrench: That Garrett might have more say-so in decisions than Wade. That in itself is an intriguing situation . . . in this rather long offseason.