Switzerland in WWII

[Toruk_Makto]

Feel free disagree. I saw what I saw. You saw differently. Color me surprised.

What you're saying is some amorphous concept people say when they need to describe a loss.

"Played to lose!"

"How?"

"You know. Things! "

 

[jday]

What you're saying is some amorphous concept people say when they need to describe a loss.

"Played to lose!"

"How?"

"You know. Things! "

Perhaps your right; I just remember having this impression that their attack lacked creativity and seemed safer as though they were placing undo pressure on milking the clock versus being aggressive. That said, there is truth to what you say. Beyond the turnovers in the Rams favor and the few opportunities we missed, there was the dropped passes that if caught may have changed my perspective; who knows? What I do know is there seemed to be a different intensity in the first half that they lost in the second. I could be wrong; wouldn't be the first time, but if someone were to say there was an issue with coaching, I'd struggle to disagree, versus the people currently saying we should start Cooper or call Romo...that's really, more or less, what this was about.

 

[Redball Express]

The IQ in the room seems to drop considerably in the wake of Cowboys losses. As such, I feel the first order of business is to address what Sunday was not. It was not a loss to a bad team; the Rams may very well be the team to beat in the NFCW. Nor was it a mollywhop at the hands of a good team; a difference of 5 points in the final score. If even one turnover or turnover opportunity missed had gone the other way, the game could have very easily ended differently and in the Cowboys favor.


There was the Switzer fumble. There was the interception of Dak off of a deflected pass. There was the fumble recovery that never was because Crawford didn’t see or saw too late that the football was right in front of him for a moment before dived on by a Rams player. And there was the ball that just bounced off the top of Anthony Brown’s fingertips to float harmlessly to the ground. Again, any of those plays actually work in the Cowboys favor and a different outcome would have been very possible (perhaps even likely); particularly if more than one had bounced the Cowboys way.


But, alas, it did not and now logic, understanding, and good ole’ fashion common sense is in short supply among Cowboys nation. And understanding of the above logic is not the only thing being missed by the many; the Lecherous Legion of told you so’ers and agenga-pushers would now have us believe that the real Dak has in fact finally stood up and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was a bottom of the fourth round pick for a very good reason. Four weeks in; four very good defenses in a row (though, the Rams defense was likely the least of challenges compared to the Giants, Broncos, and Cardinals). Not even Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers is likely to emerge from that same stretch of games looking like their normal selves.


What am I missing here?


Sure, he threw a pass short of the sticks on fourth down to end the game; that decision clearly deserves questioning. Beyond that lapse in judgement, though, you would be hard pressed to find more ample proof that Dak is not in fact a franchise level quarterback, especially if you keep a firm grip on context.


The Cowboys faithful are also forgetting the Cowboys were without the services of two corners Carroll and Awuzie (though Carroll, I’m sure, was hardly missed), their starting Left Guard Chaz Green, their Defensive leader and Left Linebacker Sean Lee and, of course, lest we forget, the recently returned from suspension Defensive End David Irving. The Rams won fair and square; I offer no excuses to wash away the Cowboy loss. But we are collectively kidding ourselves if we say the above did not have an impact on the final outcome of the game. Especially a game against a good team where the final result was a difference of 5 points.


I will agree that poor coaching had a hand in that loss. To put it simply and keep this short, in the first half the Cowboys played to win; in the second half, the Cowboys played to not lose. And as many a long-time football watcher knows, playing to not lose will get you beat more often than not…especially against a hungry-to-prove-their-doubters-wrong team like the Rams. We as a fanbase have to hope the Cowboys can get back that edge fueled by doubters from a year ago. At .500 on the year, the ground is now fertile for doubt. I suspect we will start to see a return of that lost intensity against the Packers in the upcoming contest. The fear I harbor at this moment is with each win will we see a return of arrogance or will they maintain their hunger to prove the football watching nation wrong…as of right now, that’s really hard to say which is why my prognosticating days are done for now…


Thoughts?

Where would I start..

I have posted elsewhere and you might want to do a search of my posts.

You will see we agree on some..not so much on others.

Becuz the Packer game will go far to answering questions..

I'm saving until that game goes down.

Then we will all have plenty to say.

Might get loud in here Sunday nite.

 

[jday]

Where would I start..

I have posted elsewhere and you miht want to do a search of my posts.

You will see we agree on some..not so much on others.

Becuz the Packer game will go far to answering questions..

I'm saving until that game goes down.

Then we will all have plenty to say.

Might get loud in here Sunday nite.

I might not be here as a result. I said it in the offseason; that defense is going to need time to gel...the Packers may be too soon considering Rodgers is easily one of the best QB's to ever play the game.

The Cowboys offense is missing something; another thread currently in existence may have the right of it, teams are taking away Beasley and not having him consistently move the chains has been felt.

Another thing I failed to mention in the op, but warrants watching. Dez seemed to be jogging out of his stance and into his routes late in the game. With that lack of explosion off the line, he's not going to get much separation from a typical NFL caliber cb. That warrants watching.

But I still believe in the core of this team and I think once we get Lee, Green, Hitchens, and Irving back up to speed, along with a few of the youngsters figuring things out, this team will be great. The question is when? Might be 2018, but it very well could be sooner.

To be honest, I haven't the slightest conception of what this team is presently...I just know it's not good enough...yet.

 

[Corso]

Where would I start..

I have posted elsewhere and you might want to do a search of my posts.

You will see we agree on some..not so much on others.

Becuz the Packer game will go far to answering questions..

I'm saving until that game goes down.

Then we will all have plenty to say.

Might get loud in here Sunday nite.

Love it, but there will still be questions.
One of the questions I look forward to is: How good can this 2ndary be once Woods, Chido and especially Jourdan get in there for good.

These dudes are straight players. I'm no coach so I know what I want won't happen, but I throw the rooks into the fire after a week of strenuous prep of film of these guys and their tendencies.

Just go for it.

Have a set of eyes for Jaylon's assignments and mix those eyes up.
It's time to be brilliant, for crying out loud.

 

[Doc50]

i dont care as much about the loss as the way the offense has looked.
the OL does not seem to dominate and give dak the same amount of time as last year.
nor are the holes for zeke as plentiful.
have others adjusted to the cowboys from last year?
or does the OL need time to learn to play together?

Good points.

My take on the game is we're better than the Rams, so I see no gloom and doom.
We gave them the game with the TO's, held them to mostly a flurry of FG's, and our rookie-filled patchwork D was still good enough to win.
Too parts are missing for the 'Boys to get depressed about this one, and we shouldn't either.

We're better than the Pack, too; we'll feel a lot better this time next week (barring injury to Dak or Lee).

 

[DenCWBY]

Nice. We are now to the point in the week of "ifs" and "buts". These "little" discretional excuses like "we almost recovered a fumble" or "almost got an interception" can be used for every loss whether playing Denver or LA or anyone else this year. I love the people who use the altitude excuse in Denver by the way. Hilarious.
In the 2nd half of the LA game (when it counts) the opposing defense is stuffing our "great" RB and offensive line at will. Our QB is floundering in panic and hesitation waiting for an open receiver who will catch the ball. Were at home and Dez is running/jogging a pattern and Dak throwing to a ghost. The defense is giving up 10 to 15 yards per down at will (both runs and passes) like Madden on steroids to a average QB and offense.
Yes check the score and we lost by 5 points but check the field and the plays and we got clobbered. LA is not a powerhouse team. DC has issues on both sides of the ball and a coach like JG is over his head. OK I'm done ranting. My apologies as I'm still not over last Sunday.
Let's see how we react to GB and we'll talk then.

 

[RS12]

The IQ in the room seems to drop considerably in the wake of Cowboys losses.

Could not agree less. Losses tend to sober up all but the most die hard fan boys. I find them useful reminders of what remains to be done.

 

[waldoputty]

Good points.

My take on the game is we're better than the Rams, so I see no gloom and doom.
We gave them the game with the TO's, held them to mostly a flurry of FG's, and our rookie-filled patchwork D was still good enough to win.
Too parts are missing for the 'Boys to get depressed about this one, and we shouldn't either.

We're better than the Pack, too; we'll feel a lot better this time next week (barring injury to Dak or Lee).

my concerns are why the OL is not dominating and the DL pressure is very inconsistent.

 

[Doc50]

my concerns are why the OL is not dominating and the DL pressure is very inconsistent.

Understood, WP.

Of course, I hate that also, but we have 2 weak/inexperienced OL links this year instead of one. And remember, Free was a dayum good run blocker. It’s gonna take them a few more games to gel.

The DL will take even longer, due to youth and having 2 guys out; we should be improved after the break.

 

[Bigdog]

"Neutral" was essentially the point I was implying with the title. I'm not saying the Cowboys are going to be great because so much depends on what's happening between their ears, nor am going to partake in this suggestion that the Cowboys of a sudden are terrible because they lost to the Rams. I'm, at this point, neutral in my expectations.

I got that. It was a great write up as usual. I just a history buff and thought maybe there were some info that I didn't know.

 

[jday]

I got that. It was a great write up as usual. I just a history buff and thought maybe there were some info that I didn't know.

Now I wish I had.

 

[Walker]

I was here thinking this was going to be moved to the drama zone when i read the title haha

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

The IQ in the room seems to drop considerably in the wake of Cowboys losses. As such, I feel the first order of business is to address what Sunday was not. It was not a loss to a bad team; the Rams may very well be the team to beat in the NFCW. Nor was it a mollywhop at the hands of a good team; a difference of 5 points in the final score. If even one turnover or turnover opportunity missed had gone the other way, the game could have very easily ended differently and in the Cowboys favor.


There was the Switzer fumble. There was the interception of Dak off of a deflected pass. There was the fumble recovery that never was because Crawford didn’t see or saw too late that the football was right in front of him for a moment before dived on by a Rams player. And there was the ball that just bounced off the top of Anthony Brown’s fingertips to float harmlessly to the ground. Again, any of those plays actually work in the Cowboys favor and a different outcome would have been very possible (perhaps even likely); particularly if more than one had bounced the Cowboys way.


But, alas, it did not and now logic, understanding, and good ole’ fashion common sense is in short supply among Cowboys nation. And understanding of the above logic is not the only thing being missed by the many; the Lecherous Legion of told you so’ers and agenga-pushers would now have us believe that the real Dak has in fact finally stood up and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was a bottom of the fourth round pick for a very good reason. Four weeks in; four very good defenses in a row (though, the Rams defense was likely the least of challenges compared to the Giants, Broncos, and Cardinals). Not even Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers is likely to emerge from that same stretch of games looking like their normal selves.


What am I missing here?


Sure, he threw a pass short of the sticks on fourth down to end the game; that decision clearly deserves questioning. Beyond that lapse in judgement, though, you would be hard pressed to find more ample proof that Dak is not in fact a franchise level quarterback, especially if you keep a firm grip on context.


The Cowboys faithful are also forgetting the Cowboys were without the services of two corners Carroll and Awuzie (though Carroll, I’m sure, was hardly missed), their starting Left Guard Chaz Green, their Defensive leader and Left Linebacker Sean Lee and, of course, lest we forget, the recently returned from suspension Defensive End David Irving. The Rams won fair and square; I offer no excuses to wash away the Cowboy loss. But we are collectively kidding ourselves if we say the above did not have an impact on the final outcome of the game. Especially a game against a good team where the final result was a difference of 5 points.


I will agree that poor coaching had a hand in that loss. To put it simply and keep this short, in the first half the Cowboys played to win; in the second half, the Cowboys played to not lose. And as many a long-time football watcher knows, playing to not lose will get you beat more often than not…especially against a hungry-to-prove-their-doubters-wrong team like the Rams. We as a fanbase have to hope the Cowboys can get back that edge fueled by doubters from a year ago. At .500 on the year, the ground is now fertile for doubt. I suspect we will start to see a return of that lost intensity against the Packers in the upcoming contest. The fear I harbor at this moment is with each win will we see a return of arrogance or will they maintain their hunger to prove the football watching nation wrong…as of right now, that’s really hard to say which is why my prognosticating days are done for now…


Thoughts?

I feel you could have accomplished this in a lot fewer words. For example: The Cowboys stunk up the joint.

 

[Redball Express]

Love it, but there will still be questions.
One of the questions I look forward to is: How good can this 2ndary be once Woods, Chido and especially Jourdan get in there for good.

These dudes are straight players. I'm no coach so I know what I want won't happen, but I throw the rooks into the fire after a week of strenuous prep of film of these guys and their tendencies.

Just go for it.

Have a set of eyes for Jaylon's assignments and mix those eyes up.
It's time to be brilliant, for crying out loud.

Great post.

Love it.

Post of the Day..

 

[haleyrules]

Love it, but there will still be questions.
One of the questions I look forward to is: How good can this 2ndary be once Woods, Chido and especially Jourdan get in there for good.

These dudes are straight players. I'm no coach so I know what I want won't happen, but I throw the rooks into the fire after a week of strenuous prep of film of these guys and their tendencies.

Just go for it.

Have a set of eyes for Jaylon's assignments and mix those eyes up.
It's time to be brilliant, for crying out loud.

The present secondary is 2 to 3 yrs away from their best. The club is 2 drafts away from a SB minimum. Anything else is wishful thinking. Oh Yeah...Garrett and Bryant have to go first.