Tag him and trade him

jrumann59

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Agreed. I wouldn't say he is done here if they can't reach a deal this year.

At that point however, one has to ask exactly what he might be looking for.

He wanted a 4 year deal a year ago.

Would he still want that a year from now or is it time to just take all he can get and sign up long term?

This mess always seemed to be centered around him wanting to cash in again before a certain age.

If he becomes free in a year or two, does he ask for a two year deal on the open market?

Very doubtful. So at what point does he let that go and sign a longer deal? Is he waiting to do that elsewhere?

It does raise the question that he may not want to be here long term....which doesn't really add up IMO.

I think you mentioned recently that there's a lot we don't know, which makes full sense.....because exactly who wants what and when isnt clear at all.

I highly doubt they are going back and forth in small increments on annual salary, and Jerry knows he is writing a large bonus check.....so its gotta be about the length of the deal.
I have been thinking that for a bit, he does not really want to be here no matter what he says, they seem close on money but the hang up is years. It is an odd sticking point. I want to feel like Dallas is committed to me but only for this long...
 

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I feel like you're making this too complicated lol.

The cap is going to go up, Dak's team doesn't now what that number is going to be, so they want to be FA when it does happen. Cowboys don't know what it's going to be, so they can't possibly commit to a number high enough to make Dak comfortable.

It's a 3-4 year deal, right around $40m, per. It just depends on how Dak is going to look at last season on the tag and leverage it.
Definitely on the first part lol.

I can also see how the team can't do much restructuring on a short deal....and therefore why its years and counting.

Maybe thats a good thing, and Jerry will be forced to do what should be done anyway in coming years....cut bait with some of his overpaid buddies.
 

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The March 9th deadline is fast approaching . And if no deal can be struck perhaps Tagging him is best option.

And since most feel that would mark the end of Daks career in Dallas then trading him would be best option so we at least recoup some value for him.

Otherwise he simply walks at the end of 2021 season as a Free Agent. A 3rd year Tag would cost 140% of average highest QB translating to well over 55 million for 2022 season.

Tagging and trading is looking like best option if we can’t get a deal done.

Who says most feel it would end his career? We could easily let Dak play on the tag AGAIN this year and tag him again. That would allow us another offseason to trade Dak. Dak isnt going anywhere at least for another year unless we trade him now.
 

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At this point I'm less concerned with how it ends than I am with it just ending. Two years of this Dak saga is ridiculous.
 

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There must be some crazy brainwashing going on at the ‘church of Dak.’

Do the Dak worshippers realize the Cowboys were here before Dak and will be here long after Dak? It’s the Cowboys not the Prescott’s.

People want to talk about culture. Dak worshippers need to do a self-check on their own culture. Quit worshipping one or two players and look at the whole team.

The team can win without Dak and Zeke. Dak and Zeke have one playoff win combined in 5 years and some fans continue to slobber all over them like they are irreplaceable.

Dak (@$40M) and Zeke (@$14M) gets you to a ceiling of 8-8, 9-7 if lucky. Dalton/Winston and Pollard plus about 4 or 5 good FAs gets you to a floor of 8-8.
 

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It's a possibility Dak signs the tag and asks for a trade. Think about it, why would he play without a long term contact when he already knows he can suffer a horrific injury? That's gotta be in the back of his mind
 

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There must be some crazy brainwashing going on at the ‘church of Dak.’

Do the Dak worshippers realize the Cowboys were here before Dak and will be here long after Dak? It’s the Cowboys not the Prescott’s.

People want to talk about culture. Dak worshippers need to do a self-check on their own culture. Quit worshipping one or two players and look at the whole team.

The team can win without Dak and Zeke. Dak and Zeke have one playoff win combined in 5 years and some fans continue to slobber all over them like they are irreplaceable.

Dak (@$40M) and Zeke (@$14M) gets you to a ceiling of 8-8, 9-7 if lucky. Dalton/Winston and Pollard plus about 4 or 5 good FAs gets you to a floor of 8-8.
The glory we have experienced with Prescott at QB is unique.
The Cowboys before Dak were a team that went 8-8 and scored only garbage points in the 4th Q.:eek:
Dak is GOD and we worship his greatness!!:rolleyes:
 

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For the people who think the Cowboys should tag Dak with a goal of re-signing him next offseason, why do you think the team/Dak would finally capitulate and come to an agreement at that point? They will have been at an impasse for four years at that point. Absolutely nothing is going to happen next season that suddenly bridges that gap. If he plays lights out he's going to want even more money on his terms. If he gets hurt or has a down year, he's going to be even more eager to get back to FA as soon as possible to try and maximize his earnings betting on himself.

For anyone suggesting they would tag him a third time, you realize what the cost of that tag would be, right? There is absolutely no chance they're paying Dak that astronomical sum.

It's not a guarantee by any means, but if this doesn't get worked out this season, it's far far more likely he's gone next year than it is that he stays. Meanwhile, the Cowboys miss out on one of the most QB rich drafts in a while, the team gets a year older, and everyone else gets closer to the end of their contracts.

I can't place blame for this fiasco 100% on either party, but if they're still at an impasse after three years of trying to negotiate a new deal, it's likely time to just agree to part ways amicably.
 

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Trade him if you somehow get Wilson, Watson, Rodgers

Otherwise paying Dak 45m a year >>>>>>> no QB
 

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He’s going to get tagged but he isn’t getting traded. His value is nonexistent until he proves the injury is behind him. Every GM saw Dak’s foot hanging off his ankle in October.

The tag and trade scenario is more likely next offseason.

only Dak-fans, playing with another person’s money, would sign him long term in these conditions. Completely horrible business, let alone evaluation from a purely personnel aspect. Of course these age the same guys proclaiming Jerry an idiot GM and blame him for not putting talent around Dak.
 

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The March 9th deadline is fast approaching . And if no deal can be struck perhaps Tagging him is best option.

And since most feel that would mark the end of Daks career in Dallas then trading him would be best option so we at least recoup some value for him.

Otherwise he simply walks at the end of 2021 season as a Free Agent. A 3rd year Tag would cost 140% of average highest QB translating to well over 55 million for 2022 season.

Tagging and trading is looking like best option if we can’t get a deal done.
Cannot trade him unless he signs the tag or agrees to a new contract with a new team (or Dallas) in a sign and trade.
 

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This is essentially year 6 of Dak, who is what he is. Expecting some miracle transformation to Mahomes , with a broken leg to top it all off, with a QB with already questionable mechanics for significant periods of time, is pretty hilarious

All the games in the world, if JJ tags him, Dak will come running to sign at the last moment once again, especially if it turns out the OL is healthy once again. Dak can huff and puff all he wants, but just like last year it will be the same thing.
 

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Isn't he under contract until March 18th? Trade him now!
 

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And all this hype from players or ex-players saying “pay him” is nothing but dudes wanting to see the market continue to go up for them, because the moment Jerry, the business man, puts a stop to these inflated salaries for mediocre talent, the rest of the NFL owners eventually follow. Players always favor the player over the owner when it comes to money, but when it comes to who starts, it’s a totally different ball game.
 

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This is essentially year 6 of Dak, who is what he is. Expecting some miracle transformation to Mahomes , with a broken leg to top it all off, with a QB with already questionable mechanics for significant periods of time, is pretty hilarious

All the games in the world, if JJ tags him, Dak will come running to sign at the last moment once again, especially if it turns out the OL is healthy once again. Dak can huff and puff all he wants, but just like last year it will be the same thing.
Wow give the guy a chance, will you?
I figure by his 10th season he will be able to have at least 50% of Mahomes talent base!
Why rush when we are having so much glory and fun with KING DAK at QB!
 

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He will be tagged, wont sign it right away, hold out, sign it, and retire.
 

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I figure by his 10th season he will be able to have at least 50% of Mahomes talent base!
Why rush when we are having so much glory and fun with KING DAK at QB!

Come on man! It’s about respect, not money. Dak only plays for the love of the game per his own words and his critics are only people who’ve never succeeded in anything in life according to him.
 

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Come on man! It’s about respect, not money. Dak only plays for the love of the game per his own words and his critics are only people who’ve never succeeded in anything in life according to him.
KING DAK has spoken!:muttley:
 

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Come on man! It’s about respect, not money. Dak only plays for the love of the game per his own words and his critics are only people who’ve never succeeded in anything in life according to him.

Dak is a good cha cha dancer, got to give him credit for that at least...not sure if he is dancing or having seizure out there.
 
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