Take this Ware "news" for what it's worth

[ABQCOWBOY]

It is past time to move on from the Parcels core. Never got it done, never will.

Maybe you are right. We should probably cut Romo as well. He too is part of the core group.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If Ware takes less money to sign with another team then he is dead to me. I can't believe all these Cowboys fans that want him to have success with another team. I want him to have that success here.

Right, but only if he plays for a lot less money right? Listen to yourselves for just a second. I mean, if the market dictates that he gets a lot less money, then OK, but if he can go elsewhere and make more money, why on earth would you not be willing to support that? If it were you, I know that you would not feel this way. Nobody would accept working for less money if they could get a better job elsewhere. Why on earth would anybody do that?

Just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[slomoxn]

I don't have a problem if it is true, problem is that this could have been avoided with proper team management. At this point Ware's production does not match his pay. I hae to see him go and hate to see him stay at this price; if they cut him though they need to cut all the puss out of the wound; every veteran player that is overpriced and not producing; The Austin's and such and just get ready for the windfall of money available for next season. They would be in great position between FA and drafting if going that route for next year.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I completely agree with this.
And it's good fans who've been rooting for the team for a long time doing this too.
Why would anyone root for a true Cowboy Star Player to go to another team and do better and have better success?
Do they hate the team they've rooted for- for years that much now?
I just don't understand...
I want Ware to do the right thing for the team. If he can't- good luck, I've rooted for you hard and you've brought some good memories. Go succeed, if you still can.
I don't want him to spite our nose despite our face though.
If you still got something left in the tank and can be mostly the Ware of old- do it for your team. The one that picked you, not Merriman. The one that made you rich and believed in you.
Help the team as much as they've made you famous, wealthy, an inspiration and given you the ability to provide for not only your family, but many others.
Go out being remembered as a true Legend here in Texas. Not just Texas, but the entire NFL.
Now... LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN.

If you were his Council, would you give him this advice? Would you tell him to do the right thing for the team or would you advise him to do the right thing for himself and his family?

I mean, I do understand that the two could be one and the same but they more often turn out to be one or the other. What would you advise him to do if you were responsible for providing advice?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Let's be honest, before last season, Anthony Spencer had been a better player than Ware for the past couple of years.

I don't agree with this at all.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You give Ware too much credit. Ware wasn't drawing double teams or forcing opposing offenses to alter their protection plan when he was on the field.

Very well, I'm willing to hear any proof that suggests Selvie will be a better player and generate more Sacks with Ware off the field.

 

[Corso]

sad life you must lead

About as sad as yours, except I'm more eloquent.

 

[TheSport78]

I don't agree with this at all.

In my opinion, Spencer undoubtedly had the better season in 2012. He single-handedly won two games for us with huge late-game sacks (Bengals and Panthers).

I'll give you 2011 though.

 

[Corso]

If you were his Council, would you give him this advice? Would you tell him to do the right thing for the team or would you advise him to do the right thing for himself and his family?

I mean, I do understand that the two could be one and the same but they more often turn out to be one or the other. What would you advise him to do if you were responsible for providing advice?

Eh- I'm only speaking as a fan of my favorite team.
Not as his agent or his council and whatever he does- like I said, I wish him well.

I guess nobody reads my whole posts when at the very beginning I'm talking about fans who want are players to leave the team and win a Superbowl while we still wallow just to shove it in Jerry's and our collective faces.
That was my point. I can wish a former player well and still not be bitter- wishing them to show us what fools our team is.
Then I expressed my desires as a FAN.
Get it?

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

In my opinion, Spencer undoubtedly had the better season in 2012. He single-handedly won two games for us with huge late-game sacks (Bengals and Panthers).

I'll give you 2011 though.

For a 1st round pick . Spencer has been a border line bust . Barely a tad above ekuban . No one single handedly wins games in the nfl .

 

[theebs]

In my opinion, Spencer undoubtedly had the better season in 2012. He single-handedly won two games for us with huge late-game sacks (Bengals and Panthers).

I'll give you 2011 though.

Weird thing to say when ware had the big sack against cincy on a 3rd and 12 when we had to have the ball back to even have a chance, did the same against Pittsburgh causing all kinds of problems all day and getting a huge sack of Big Ben late in the fourth, that he shared with spencer.

Bottom line, Spencer's best year was basically an average season for ware. Ware played thirteen games last year and had 6 sacks and a pick. That was basically Spencer's output a number of years.

fans of this team were happy to pay spencer 20 million for two seasons, a guy who never really had a great season but complain about ware's money now when he has been incredible in all but one season.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

You take Ware out of the mix and there is no guarantee that Selvie will be getting 6 sacks. Just saying.

Ware didn't get double teamed much at all last season . He simply couldn't produce .

For those saying ware is still a better player yada yada . Take your emotions out of it . Ware has constantly been getting hurt . He has been getting owned on outside runs ( he doesn't keep contain ) . And he is getting paid like an elite player . It's time to let go . Selvie has a career ahead if him for much much cheaper and ware is washed up .

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

In my opinion, Spencer undoubtedly had the better season in 2012. He single-handedly won two games for us with huge late-game sacks (Bengals and Panthers).

I'll give you 2011 though.

As I recall, 2012 was a tale of two seasons for these players. In the first half of the season, when Ware was still healthy, he had 9 sacks. In the second half of the seasons, after Spencer came back from injury, he put up 8 sacks so he did record more sacks then did Ware over the 2nd half of the season but over all, Ware still had more sack production. I don't think it's fair or accurate to say that Spencer outplayed Ware. I think it's fair to say that when Spencer was injured, Ware was there and when Ware was injured, Spencer was there in 2012.

 

[Nirvana]

Jerry has the media singing his songs. Pat Dye doesn't stand a chance. Checkmate forthcoming.

 

[TheSport78]

For a 1st round pick . Spencer has been a border line bust . Barely a tad above ekuban . No one single handedly wins games in the nfl .

I disagree. He had different responsibilities than Ware in the 3-4 and was always sound against the run.

I'm not saying Spencer didn't underachieve because he certainly did, but if you gave a healthy Ware and a healthy Spencer right now, I'd go with Spencer.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Eh- I'm only speaking as a fan of my favorite team.
Not as his agent or his council and whatever he does- like I said, I wish him well.

I guess nobody reads my whole posts when at the very beginning I'm talking about fans who want are players to leave the team and win a Superbowl while we still wallow just to shove it in Jerry's and our collective faces.
That was my point. I can wish a former player well and still not be bitter- wishing them to show us what fools our team is.
Then I expressed my desires as a FAN.
Get it?

I understand that but the point here is that a Fans perspective, doesn't necessarily have a great deal of basis in reality. Perhaps it is you who are not reading the entire post. I am aware of the fact that as a fan, your wants and desires may be different then what you might view as practical but that's kind of the point right?

So again I ask, if you were advising Ware, would what you suggest be the advice you would give him? It's a fair question Counselor.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Ware didn't get double teamed much at all last season . He simply couldn't produce .

For those saying ware is still a better player yada yada . Take your emotions out of it . Ware has constantly been getting hurt . He has been getting owned on outside runs ( he doesn't keep contain ) . And he is getting paid like an elite player . It's time to let go . Selvie has a career ahead if him for much much cheaper and ware is washed up .

I think the Jury is very much, still out on this. Ware has been injured the last season and a half. I agree with that but there is nothing that I have heard that suggests he will not be back and he can not contribute. It's foolish to suggest that Selvie will be better going forward because you can't know that. All players get older and when that happens, you don't just assume they are done. You lengthen their careers by putting them in situations where they can take advantage of their remaining skills. That's what we did with Haley and it worked.

If the team wants to say we aren't going to pay you, that's fine but don't try to say Selvie is better or is going to be better because you have no proof of this. If you want to say, I'd rather the team cut him and save cap, OK, but let's not say that he can't get paid elsewhere and he should just accept whatever the Cowboys are willing to pay him. To this point, we don't know what the market value for Ware might be. Lets also not pretend that any one of us would not leave Dallas and go play elsewhere for more money or equal or possibly less money, for the chance to win a Championship. That's just not real and no amount of discussion will ever convince me that it is. We would all consider such steps if we were fortunate enough to be able to play like Ware.

That is all I am trying to say.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I disagree. He had different responsibilities than Ware in the 3-4 and was always sound against the run.

I'm not saying Spencer didn't underachieve because he certainly did, but if you gave a healthy Ware and a healthy Spencer right now, I'd go with Spencer.

He did have different responsibilities but that does not equate to better. That equates to different.

If both players were healthy right now, there is no doubt in my mind I would go with Ware.

 

[Alexander]

It is past time to move on from the Parcels core. Never got it done, never will.

Hold on.

Not long ago, Jerry Jones was getting praise for going with Ware. So now since he is no good anymore, Parcells owns him again?

 

[Zimmy Lives]

(If true) Does Ware actually think he can make more money on the FA market?

It would be a foolish move on his part but you know what they say about a fool and his money.

I wish him well regardless.