Taking a QB early...

[super8]

journeyman at best in the NFL.

kinda like McGee ?????????????????????????

we gave him 2 years to learn how get hit what like 20 sometimes a game

 

[TheCoolFan]

I'd be devastated. We have too many needs that are more important.

 

[burmafrd]

Mcgee might make a decent backup. But that is his ceiling. But realistically we have bigger needs now. I would say in two years we ought to make finding a successor to Tony a priority.

 

[jnday]

I'd be devastated. We have too many needs that are more important.

Not that it matters to me , but yu can add a backup QaB to that list of needs . 1draft is not going to make ths team elite . If it would , I might be more against drafting one early .

 

[Randy White]

I don't think anyone in their right mind would be upset if RG3 became a Dallas Cowboy.

Really ?

So, by that standard, should the Patriots take him in the 1st round ? How about the Packers ? Atlanta ? New Orleans ? San Diego ? Baltimore ? Pittsburgh ? Philadelphia ? Carolina ? Tampa ? Chicago ? NY Giants ?

 

[jnday]

Really ?

So, by that standard, should the Patriots take him in the 1st round ? How about the Packers ? Atlanta ? New Orleans ? San Diego ? Baltimore ? Pittsburgh ? Philadelphia ? Carolina ? Tampa ? Chicago ? NY Giants ?

I can see about 5 of those teams that wouldn't mind him as a backup till he caught on to the pro game .

 

[SDogo]

After todays game it's apparent McGee is an ideal 3rd QB but to be honest, he's probably better then a handful of other 2nd string QB's around the league. He might have shown enough against the Eagles to hang onto his job for another year because I'm sure Jerry will look for a vet to replace Kitna and it's unlikely Dallas will carry a rookie 3rd string QB again.

 

[Aikbach]

Really ?

So, by that standard, should the Patriots take him in the 1st round ? How about the Packers ? Atlanta ? New Orleans ? San Diego ? Baltimore ? Pittsburgh ? Philadelphia ? Carolina ? Tampa ? Chicago ? NY Giants ?

Are you sane? You take the best player available and he would be. A 21 year old dynamite blue chip qb to sit a year or two behind a 31 year old, for pete sake even Joe Montana was trade bait by 34.

 

[burmafrd]

After todays game it's apparent McGee is an ideal 3rd QB but to be honest, he's probably better then a handful of other 2nd string QB's around the league. He might have shown enough against the Eagles to hang onto his job for another year because I'm sure Jerry will look for a vet to replace Kitna and it's unlikely Dallas will carry a rookie 3rd string QB again.

Kitna was as good a backup QB as we have had probably since Kosar. Not easy to find.

 

[RS12]

If RG3 slid to the mid teens (which aint happenin) of course you take him. No thanks to Landry Jones in that spot. That being the case hopefully a big time pass rusher cuz it looks like DeCastro could go as high as number 8-10.

 

[super8]

Really ?

So, by that standard, should the Patriots take him in the 1st round ? How about the Packers ? Atlanta ? New Orleans ? San Diego ? Baltimore ? Pittsburgh ? Philadelphia ? Carolina ? Tampa ? Chicago ? NY Giants ?

Aibach's man love is getting the best of him

everybody should know that by now

 

[SDogo]

Kitna was as good a backup QB as we have had probably since Kosar. Not easy to find.

Yeah I was browsing the list of FA's and outside of Orton and maybe Shaun Hill or Derek Anderson there is very little to speak of.

Jason Campbell actually peeks my interest


If your looking younger maybe Drew Stanton or Josh Johnson.

 

[Randy White]

I can see about 5 of those teams that wouldn't mind him as a backup till he caught on to the pro game .

Are you sane? You take the best player available and he would be. A 21 year old dynamite blue chip qb to sit a year or two behind a 31 year old, for pete sake even Joe Montana was trade bait by 34.

Which 5 teams in that group would spend a #1 draft choice ( you can exclude the Saints and Falcons out because they don't have a pick in the first round this year, but let's pretend they did just for argument sakes ) on RGIII ?

 

[Randy White]

After todays game it's apparent McGee is an ideal 3rd QB but to be honest, he's probably better then a handful of other 2nd string QB's around the league. He might have shown enough against the Eagles to hang onto his job for another year because I'm sure Jerry will look for a vet to replace Kitna and it's unlikely Dallas will carry a rookie 3rd string QB again.

The difference between McGee being an ideal #2 and a so called " ideal #2 " is experience. McGee is the classic " tweener " where he's not going to be developed by the Cowboys as a succesor, for obvious reasons, yet he's not experienced enough to come in at a moment's notice and " carry a team ", sort of speak. Now, give him a week to prepare, and he's as good as any #2, definitely better than most. Problem is that he hasn't shown enough to command a high enough pick for the Cowboys to consider trading him.

McGee needs to go to a team, compete for a starting position legitimately ( not as someone's caddy ) and then show what he has, like Kitna did, like Shaun Hill did, and Jeff Garcia, and Gradkowski, and even Matt Moore did. Even if just to for the experience factor that those guys have now.

IMO, his " ceiling " is as a very solid starting QB in this league, ala Matt Schaub. Not a superstar or transcendent talent, but a solid guy who can get the job done IF he's in the right system that takes advantage of his talents ( West Coast offense like the Texans ) and with the right supporting cast.

By the way, there will be 2 young QBs, one of them will most likely be very sought after, in the market next year. Matt Flynn from the Packers and Chad Henne from the Dullphins. Flynn is going to be a hot commodity and Henne will be a cheap one, but worth the gamble IMO for a team that might be looking for a young, reclamation project.

 

[jnday]

Which 5 teams in that group would spend a #1 draft choice ( you can exclude the Saints and Falcons out because they don't have a pick in the first round this year, but let's pretend they did just for argument sakes ) on RGIII ?

The Pats are smart enough to realize that Brady is 35 and the worse case is that RG will be future trade bait.
The Raven , Joe Flacco is average .
The Bucs , how is Freeman looking ?
The Bears , Cutler is average at best .
The Eagles , have you noticed Vick's injuries mounting up ? The Eagles have .
The Packer used first on Rodgers while Farve was starting . Why wouldn't they do it again ?
I could give you reasons for the Saints and others . Any team would draft him if the value is there .

 

[tyke1doe]

The new collective bargaining agreement makes drafting a quarterback in the first round more likely for teams. Those quarterbacks aren't going to assume the big salaries and large signing bonuses in their first contract.

So a team like the Cowboys, Eagles, Saints (those with highly paid quarterbacks) can take a chance on RGIII if he's there for the taking.

 

[Randy White]

The Pats are smart enough to realize that Brady is 35 and the worse case is that RG will be future trade bait.
The Raven , Joe Flacco is average .
The Bucs , how is Freeman looking ?
The Bears , Cutler is average at best .
The Eagles , have you noticed Vick's injuries mounting up ? The Eagles have .
The Packer used first on Rodgers while Farve was starting . Why wouldn't they do it again ?
I could give you reasons for the Saints and others . Any team would draft him if the value is there .

1) Not ONE of those teams would spend their #1 draft pick on a QB. At best, they'd trade the pick to acquire more talent, but they wouldn't use it on a QB.

2) The PATS drafted Ryan Mallett last year in the 3rd round. I have a better shot at owning the Cowboys next year than the Patriots drafting a QB in the first round. Especially with their obvious need on defense.

The Packer used first on Rodgers while Farve was starting . Why wouldn't they do it again ?

Because the NFL is not the John Madden video game.

 

[Randy White]

The new collective bargaining agreement makes drafting a quarterback in the first round more likely for teams. Those quarterbacks aren't going to assume the big salaries and large signing bonuses in their first contract. So a team like the Cowboys, Eagles, Saints (those with highly paid quarterbacks) can take a chance on RGIII if he's there for the taking

Sure they " can " take a chance. It's a free country and there aren't any league rules against it. Just like they can take a chance at drafting a back up place holder in the first round too, or not even using the pick in the first round at all.

 

[tyke1doe]

Sure they " can " take a chance. It's a free country and there aren't any league rules against it. Just like they can take a chance at drafting a back up place holder in the first round too, or not even using the pick in the first round at all.

 

[jnday]

1) Not ONE of those teams would spend their #1 draft pick on a QB. At best, they'd trade the pick to acquire more talent, but they wouldn't use it on a QB.

2) The PATS drafted Ryan Mallett last year in the 3rd round. I have a better shot at owning the Cowboys next year than the Patriots drafting a QB in the first round. Especially with their obvious need on defense.



Because the NFL is not the John Madden video game.

Do you understand the term "value" ? Of course not . Do you understand the value placed on the QB position in the NFL ? Again it's doubtfull . The teams that you named will be picking later in the first round . Why wouldn't they pick top 5 talent ? The QB position is the most important in the NFL . The Madden comment really doesn't register with me . I don't do games . What I do know is that the Packers had sucess drafting Rogers in a similar situation . Usually when a team hits with a move like that , they repeat it . Why wouldn't they ? The whole concept is based on value at the QB position . Think about it .