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and with the 18th pick the dallas cowboys select Tavon Austin

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Season gets here. He becomes our percy harvin/ desean jackson player.

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He would also make austin and his big contract expandable next year. We can get a good guard in round 2 and sign winston to a cheap couple of years contract and boom.

I wouldn't hate tavon austin in the first round heck I would pick him over Kenny Vaccaro (someting about him idk maybe its his 4.6 40 i don't like idk).
 

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I dont think Austin is coming here because I think he goes top 16, however he needs at least 15 touches a game to make it worth drafting him. I would keep it to a minimum using him as RB because at 170 pounds even Safties are going to outweigh him by 30 pounds. When he gets hit I'd rather it be in space than trying to bust the LOS.
 

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RS12;5048130 said:
I dont think Austin is coming here because I think he goes top 16, however he needs at least 15 touches a game to make it worth drafting him. I would keep it to a minimum using him as RB because at 170 pounds even Safties are going to outweigh him by 30 pounds. When he gets hit I'd rather it be in space than trying to bust the LOS.

tru but I think he could be used like how the chiefs used Dexter McCluster about a year ago wr/hb/pr. He weights the same a dexter and he is alot faster.

McCluster 5'9" 172lbs and ran a 4.53 at combine. Austin 5'9" 174lbs and ran a 4.28:eek: at the combine.
 

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jblaze2004;5048139 said:
tru but I think he could be used like how the chiefs used Dexter McCluster about a year ago wr/hb/pr. He weights the same a dexter and he is alot faster.

McCluster 5'9" 172lbs and ran a 4.53 at combine. Austin 5'9" 174lbs and ran a 4.28:eek: at the combine.

No it was a 4.35, still faster than anyone on our team.
 

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MonsterD;5048141 said:
No it was a 4.35, still faster than anyone on our team.

Well good. Him and Scandrick can race.
 

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Not a fan of a WR in the 1st round. Or 2nd or 3rd for that matter unless a guy somehow falls.

If they drafted this guy, it would be the third 1st round pick they have used on the WR position in the last 5 years.

2009: Roy Williams Debacle Trade, 3rd rounder too.

2010: Dez Bryant

2013: Tavon Austin?

This in addition to the $50M that was given to Miles Austin and the $50M that Roy Williams was awarded.

And then when you consider the impending huge contract for Dez....what's that going to be? $60M? Maybe more?

You cannot justify constantly throwing resources at one single position when you are also neglecting a plethora of other positions. If WR was the position that Dallas needed in spite of all the money and picks they have given to that position up until this point, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

That just isn't the case. The team has a dominant #1 WR, a #2 WR who could be a very good #1 if he would stay healthy and they have some young talent at the position.

Dallas has far bigger needs than another WR.

This kid might end up being a stud and looks to have all the ability in the world but Dallas cannot afford to keep letting other areas on the team rot as they chase offensive skill positions.
 

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I'd be okay with it because he almost certainly would be the BPA if he drops to #18. He has speed, hands, cuts and great instincts. He does things that you can't teach. He is an absolute terror if he has the ball and just a little bit of space and he also knows how to create that space for himself which very few runners can do.

I'd still prefer Cooper, one of the big 3 OTs or one of the big 3 DTs. But if all those guys are gone I"m fine with Austin and then trading down. It'll allow us to cut Miles early if he ends up being a dynamo #2 WR.

I do hear Hoofbite's worries about over-investing at WR. RW was a mistake. Should we have not then drafted Dez because we had already invested money and picks in RW? Or should we admit we made a mistake and still need a WR and take the guy who is by far the BPA at that spot in the draft? Remember that when we drafted him Miles was coming off of a 1300 yard season. We still drafted Dez and it was the right decision for us as he is now probably the best player on the team. These are the guys who make plays to win games in the modern shootout world of the NFL. Guys like Austin can win you many games because they can change the who way defenses have to play against you. There is not another player truly like him in the league right now.

So in the end, I would suggest you take the small guy with top 5 talent over the big guy who is a borderline first rounder on the OL. You'll get more out of the Tavon Austin pick. You can think of what's going to happen when Dez needs his extension - well the answer is that Miles will be cut which means there'll be an opening spot for a WR. The writing is on the wall for that move and it is just a matter of when and not if it happens.
 

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Cooper will definitely be gone & I am thinking Warmack will also be gone before 18, so that leaves Kenny Vaccaro as the pick for me. If Vaccaro is off the board, that's where Tavon Austin comes into play, & I would certainly be happy with any of those 4.
 

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jblaze2004;5048128 said:
and with the 18th pick the dallas cowboys select Tavon Austin

CowboysZone:shatfan: :eek:hno: :nolook: :nervous: :angryno: :choke: :beer1: :beer1: :tantrum: :leave: :leave: :grrr:
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Season gets here. He becomes our percy harvin/ desean jackson player.

Cowboyszone:bow: :lombardi: :omg: :bounce: :yourock: :shades: :beer2: :grouphug: :fogeys: :dance2: :dance: :dance3: :mchammer:

me::thankyou: :moon: :cop: :flex: :beatit:

He would also make austin and his big contract expandable next year. We can get a good guard in round 2 and sign winston to a cheap couple of years contract and boom.

I wouldn't hate tavon austin in the first round heck I would pick him over Kenny Vaccaro (someting about him idk maybe its his 4.6 40 i don't like idk).

The more I hear superlatives heaped on Tavon Austin - most explosive player in the draft, most explosive player in the last 5 years, unstoppable in the open field, etc. - the more I am put in mind of Reggie Bush. We were told he was the best player in a generation, that he was going to revolutionize the NFL, etc. And now, while he is certainly not a bust by any means (unless, maybe you compare his actual production to his pre-draft hype), he is certainly not thought of as a revolutionary Hall-of-Famer in waiting as many prophesied before he was drafted.

Not saying Austin will or won't be what he is talked up to be, I just have a hard time seeing a player of his size being more that a 10-15 play per game, 12-14 game per year player. May make highlight reel plays every week but in the final analysis, a specialty player - not someone you can really build around.

If we somehow end up with him, I would hate it because of all our other gaping holes on this roster. But I would still hope he became everything I don't really believe he will be - just because he would be a Cowboy.


Monte Sliger
 

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Fansince64;5048208 said:
The more I hear superlatives heaped on Tavon Austin - most explosive player in the draft, most explosive player in the last 5 years, unstoppable in the open field, etc. - the more I am put in mind of Reggie Bush. We were told he was the best player in a generation, that he was going to revolutionize the NFL, etc. And now, while he is certainly not a bust by any means (unless, maybe you compare his actual production to his pre-draft hype), he is certainly not thought of as a revolutionary Hall-of-Famer in waiting as many prophesied before he was drafted.

Not saying Austin will or won't be what he is talked up to be, I just have a hard time seeing a player of his size being more that a 10-15 play per game, 12-14 game per year player. May make highlight reel plays every week but in the final analysis, a specialty player - not someone you can really build around.

If we somehow end up with him, I would hate it because of all our other gaping holes on this roster. But I would still hope he became everything I don't really believe he will be - just because he would be a Cowboy.


Monte Sliger

The problem with Bush was that to push him up to #1-2 position in the draft he was sold to the public as a guy who was going to be a 3 down RB who could run the ball 20-25 times per game out of the backfield. In reality, he wasn't capable of doing it so the Saints wisely found other RBs to split the load with him. I still don't think hte Saints did a great job of getting as much out of Bush as possible.

Tavon isn't a RB. He is a WR who can flex into the backfield for a few plays a game as a change of pace.

The other difference that I see is Austin is a guy with amazing moves and cuts. Reggie has some elusiveness but his game was more pure speed. It was off the charts and everyone thought he was going to outrun everyone in the NFL to the corner - well he couldn't. But that isn't really Austin's game if you watch him you see a guy who just makes people miss with amazing cuts. The reason the cuts work is his incredible acceleration in a stop-go fashion. This type of elusiveness can work in the NFL as best seen in guys like Barry Sanders and Shady McCoy from the Eagles.

So if you're looking for a guy to get 12-15 touches a game between punt returns, rushes from the backfield and pass receptions than this guy is a huge talent who isn't going to disappoint.

The last big difference, Reggie was taken #2 overall. We're talking about Austin at #18. There is a world of difference in expectation between #2 overall and #18. If Bush went #18 no one would consider his career a big disappointment.
 

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I'm starting to think there may actually be 2 Guards taken in the top 17. It's still a good chance they slip as Guards always do, but just a hunch. Tavon Austin will certainly be gone by 18. It'll be between Richardson and Vacarro in my opinion.
 

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Man, does my favourite safety, Jefferson, ever look bad in this video. He is just embarrassed on every single play
 

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Do you really trust Jason Garrett to get the most out of this guy? I don't.


Keep it simple and just get a quality lineman.

At some point we may have enough good players to win enough 1 on 1 battles that it won't matter how bad Garrett is at scheming.
 

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CATCH17;5048531 said:
Do you really trust Jason Garrett to get the most out of this guy? I don't.


Keep it simple and just get a quality lineman.

At some point we may have enough good players to win enough 1 on 1 battles that it won't matter how bad Garrett is at scheming.

Good point
 

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CATCH17;5048531 said:
Do you really trust Jason Garrett to get the most out of this guy? I don't.


Keep it simple and just get a quality lineman.

At some point we may have enough good players to win enough 1 on 1 battles that it won't matter how bad Garrett is at scheming.

So you trust Garrett to get the most out of a quality OL but not a premiere playmaker at WR?

Historically, Garrett (and the Cowboys) has been much more successful with WR than he has with OL.
 

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If the Cowboys don't get some good offensive lineman out of this draft, Tavon Austin and Demarco Murray will be sitting on the bench nursing injuries.

The Cowboys need to address their O-line before they get their Ferrari of a running back, and he seems like a good one!
 
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