Team built to beat the NFC East?

[pgreptom]

They aren't that good, which is what I've been trying to say for a while now.

They have

10 passing touchdowns
4 rushing touchdowns

3 touchdowns on defense
1 kick return for touchdown
1 punt return for touchdown

So 14 offensive touchdowns, 5 touchdowns on special teams/defense...

To compare

We have

14 passing touchdowns
7 rushing touchdowns

1 touchdown on defense
0 returns on defense

Note that Philly has had a bye

But 14/6 x 7 = 16.3 compared to 21....

huge difference...

Say what you want.. but good teams find ways to win games.. and it ain't always pretty. Philadelphia is a good team and I don't understand the hate they get on this forum. They blew the Giants out..

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

Say what you want.. but good teams find ways to win games.. and it ain't always pretty. Philadelphia is a good team and I don't understand the hate they get on this forum. They blew the Giants out..

you don't understand the hate they get on this forum?????????????????????

but they are a good team, with holes... but so are we....
still like our style of play better..... just an aesthetic choice...

 

[pgreptom]

you don't understand the hate they get on this forum?????????????????????

but they are a good team, with holes... but so are we....
still like our style of play better..... just an aesthetic choice...

I understand the general hate for them... I'm referring to this "Philadelphia isn't good" hate. It's just a bag of rotten bologna.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

I understand the general hate for them... I'm referring to this "Philadelphia isn't good" hate. It's just a bag of rotten bologna.

hard to separate those two things when it comes to the team fan....
i knew what you meant...

 

[big dog cowboy]

Team built to beat the NFC East?

No the Super Bowl.

 

[kramskoi]

I remember Jerry talking a while back about building this team to beat the NFC East. Last year we went 5-`1 against the NFC East, losing to the Eagles by 2 points without Romo.

I think we're ideally suited right now to beat these teams, surprisingly I think we're most suited to beating the Eagles and their style of play.

I think without DeSean Jackson their quick strike offense isn't going to work well against our defense, and with our ball control style of offense, they aren't going to get many opportunities. I think their defense is going to really feel it when they play against this offensive line, being on the field all day. And our defense should be pretty well rested.

We have the 2nd best time of possession in the NFL and the Eagles have the 2nd worst...

I don't think the Giants have the talent to run with us.

And I think the Washington Football Team is in even worse shape than the Giants.

The only question is why in the hell did it take so long. This team has directly contributed to an appreciable amount of New York Giants success over the last eight years. I was wondering just how long it would take for them to get back to the basics used in the nineties. This team was never going to win a SuperBowl playing chuck-ball.

The NFL in general has slowly evolved into defenses that focus on passing. The league has slowly taken the teeth out of defenses and in doing so, really allowed efficient quarterbacks to benefit. Lighter and faster guys on the back end will cause you real trouble when facing a team that will run until you stop it. The 2006 Colts had this problem...they could fly to ball, yes, but there were a few games in that '06 season where their run defense was in complete, unmitigated chaos. Down the stretch, they did not look a SuperBowl defense...especially with Bob Sanders in and out of the line-up:

The 2006 Colts run defense? Staggeringly bad – they gave up 173 yards per game on the ground and an eye-popping 5.3 yards per attempt. The only other team to give up more than 170 rushing yards per game since 2000 was the 2008 Detroit Lions (172 YPG) – who went 0-16. 7 times that year the Colts gave up more than 180 yards on the ground, including 3 games over 200 and 375 yards to the Jaguars. Their incompetence against the run made them one of only 4 teams to face a higher percentage of run plays than league average. Teams ran on the Colts 54.2% of the time, compared to a league average of 45.2%.

http://pick256.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/the-worst-defense-to-ever-win-a-super-bowl-the-2006-colts/

http://pick256.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/the-worst-defense-to-ever-win-a-super-bowl-the-2006-colts/

 

[Animosity]

Arizona is going to expose them tomorrow.

cant wait for this

 

[MagicMan]

I feel that the 'Boys are built to win any style of game you want regardless of who they are playing, or the weather conditions. As long as they can continue with their gameplan of running the football, controlling the LOS, and hitting the open receivers on swings, posts and fly patterns when available, They can limit Kap, Rodgers, Luck or Manning to 20-25 minutes of TOP. They can't do anything sitting on the bench. The achilles heel right now is putting more pressure on the QB and getting sacks. Even these QBs will make dumb mistakes when pressured.
But I think the return of our injured/suspended players will provide a big improvement going into the 2nd half of the season.

Again, as long as Dallas plays their game, any opposing team will be concerned and have their work cut out for them. We just don't want to beat ourselves---and that is why Garrett emphasizes take it game at a time and maintain FOCUS.

 

[Bigdog]

I

I know that. Referencing down the road.

The injury might be career ending also.

 

[Beast_from_East]

They should, but I expect some bogus calls to go their way. Arizona will probably play their worst game too. Always happens with that @#€£@ team.

That Indy game was gifted wrapped for the Eagles, just horrible officiating that game.

 

[Galian Beast]

The only question is why in the hell did it take so long. This team has directly contributed to an appreciable amount of New York Giants success over the last eight years. I was wondering just how long it would take for them to get back to the basics used in the nineties. This team was never going to win a SuperBowl playing chuck-ball.

The NFL in general has slowly evolved into defenses that focus on passing. The league has slowly taken the teeth out of defenses and in doing so, really allowed efficient quarterbacks to benefit. Lighter and faster guys on the back end will cause you real trouble when facing a team that will run until you stop it. The 2006 Colts had this problem...they could fly to ball, yes, but there were a few games in that '06 season where their run defense was in complete, unmitigated chaos. Down the stretch, they did not look a SuperBowl defense...especially with Bob Sanders in and out of the line-up:

The 2006 Colts run defense? Staggeringly bad – they gave up 173 yards per game on the ground and an eye-popping 5.3 yards per attempt. The only other team to give up more than 170 rushing yards per game since 2000 was the 2008 Detroit Lions (172 YPG) – who went 0-16. 7 times that year the Colts gave up more than 180 yards on the ground, including 3 games over 200 and 375 yards to the Jaguars. Their incompetence against the run made them one of only 4 teams to face a higher percentage of run plays than league average. Teams ran on the Colts 54.2% of the time, compared to a league average of 45.2%.

http://pick256.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/the-worst-defense-to-ever-win-a-super-bowl-the-2006-colts/

I think it took so long because we focused so much on offense, rather than defense under Garrett's tenure. The offense was already somewhat productive, and all of our investments in the offense have had diminishing returns, while the defense fell by the wayside.

This is why I hate giving Garrett credit now. He hasn't really done anything. We drafted an offensive line? Yeah, great, we should have done that a long time ago, many of us have stated as much. We also said we should have drafted a defensive line.

 

[burmafrd]

The only question is why in the hell did it take so long. This team has directly contributed to an appreciable amount of New York Giants success over the last eight years. I was wondering just how long it would take for them to get back to the basics used in the nineties. This team was never going to win a SuperBowl playing chuck-ball.

The NFL in general has slowly evolved into defenses that focus on passing. The league has slowly taken the teeth out of defenses and in doing so, really allowed efficient quarterbacks to benefit. Lighter and faster guys on the back end will cause you real trouble when facing a team that will run until you stop it. The 2006 Colts had this problem...they could fly to ball, yes, but there were a few games in that '06 season where their run defense was in complete, unmitigated chaos. Down the stretch, they did not look a SuperBowl defense...especially with Bob Sanders in and out of the line-up:

The 2006 Colts run defense? Staggeringly bad – they gave up 173 yards per game on the ground and an eye-popping 5.3 yards per attempt. The only other team to give up more than 170 rushing yards per game since 2000 was the 2008 Detroit Lions (172 YPG) – who went 0-16. 7 times that year the Colts gave up more than 180 yards on the ground, including 3 games over 200 and 375 yards to the Jaguars. Their incompetence against the run made them one of only 4 teams to face a higher percentage of run plays than league average. Teams ran on the Colts 54.2% of the time, compared to a league average of 45.2%.

http://pick256.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/the-worst-defense-to-ever-win-a-super-bowl-the-2006-colts/

http://pick256.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/the-worst-defense-to-ever-win-a-super-bowl-the-2006-colts/

then look at how that same D performed in the Playoffs. So frankly a lot of that was meaningless

 

[burmafrd]

I'm not at all afraid of the 49ers. We have their number, it took one of Romo's worst games in the NFL for them to beat us. I don't think that will happen again, I relish playing them in the playoffs.

The teams in the NFC that I'm not comfortable playing would stop at Green Bay. I think Aaron Rodgers would have a field day with this defense the way it is right now. I'm glad we're not playing them this year.

That being said we will have to play Luck.

green bay is the one that worries me because Rogers is so good at picking apart a D that cannot get to him consistently. And with our lack of pass rush, especially outside rush, that is bad. With no Outside Rush he can take a 7 step drop and stand there.

 

[burmafrd]

I think it took so long because we focused so much on offense, rather than defense under Garrett's tenure. The offense was already somewhat productive, and all of our investments in the offense have had diminishing returns, while the defense fell by the wayside.

This is why I hate giving Garrett credit now. He hasn't really done anything. We drafted an offensive line? Yeah, great, we should have done that a long time ago, many of us have stated as much. We also said we should have drafted a defensive line.

to be fair we do not know how much Jerruh was forcing his shiny toy philosophy in the first couple of years Red Ball was here; and we of course know the history prior to that

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Really comes down to Romo not forcing anything and our special teams not giving up games. These two don't happen and we're going to win the vast majority of our games. I guess you can throw in Murray not fumbling, but I think with a certain amount of carries you're going to get a certain amount of fumbles, that being said, Murray has been getting that under wraps lately.

Yeah hated Romo forcing those 31 tds that led to those 10 ints.

Please stahp.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I think it took so long because we focused so much on offense, rather than defense under Garrett's tenure. The offense was already somewhat productive, and all of our investments in the offense have had diminishing returns, while the defense fell by the wayside.

This is why I hate giving Garrett credit now. He hasn't really done anything. We drafted an offensive line? Yeah, great, we should have done that a long time ago, many of us have stated as much. We also said we should have drafted a defensive line.

Since Garret has been he he's drafted 3 lineman in the first round. Something that hadn't happened here in the Jerry era. Ever. And you hate giving Red credit? Shows your bias. You should be singing the man's praises.

Also no investment in defense? There were significant investments on that side of the ball. Both in draft capital and invested dollars.

Stahp making things up please.

 

[Galian Beast]

Yeah hated Romo forcing those 31 tds that led to those 10 ints.

Please stahp.

Again, someone who doesn't have strong reading comprehension. Never said losing was Romo's fault. Said that if Romo doesn't force anything, and in general we don't turn the ball over, we're a better football team than most.

If we had this defense and running game with the way Romo has played in the last few years, we would have won playoff games.

 

[Galian Beast]

Since Garret has been he he's drafted 3 lineman in the first round. Something that hadn't happened here in the Jerry era. Ever. And you hate giving Red credit? Shows your bias. You should be singing the man's praises.

Also no investment in defense? There were significant investments on that side of the ball. Both in draft capital and invested dollars.

Stahp making things up please.

Garrett knew this offensive line was garbage before day 1. He was the OC here,and the line was always a problem.

If you don't think this offense has gotten the lionshare of investment, you haven't been paying attention.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Again, someone who doesn't have strong reading comprehension. Never said losing was Romo's fault. Said that if Romo doesn't force anything, and in general we don't turn the ball over, we're a better football team than most.

If we had this defense and running game with the way Romo has played in the last few years, we would have won playoff games.

I understood what you wrote. And I think the premise is just dumb. It's a veiled shot at Romo who historically hasn't forced things on a routine basis. One needs only look to last year to verify that. In fact people wished he forced the issue more to Dez in general and wished he took more shots.

But by all means don't let facts get in the way of your veiled insults.

 

[Galian Beast]

I understood what you wrote. And I think the premise is just dumb. It's a veiled shot at Romo who historically hasn't forced things on a routine basis. One needs only look to last year to verify that. In fact people wished he forced the issue more to Dez in general and wished he took more shots.

But by all means don't let facts get in the way of your veiled insults.

Yeah, I'm taking a veiled shot at my favorite player in NFL history...

Or maybe the reality is that he has been put in position to have to force the ball too often over the years.