Team built to beat the NFC East?

[Toruk_Makto]

Garrett knew this offensive line was garbage before day 1. He was the OC here,and the line was always a problem.

If you don't think this offense has gotten the lionshare of investment, you haven't been paying attention.

You mean like Last year when we had two first rounders on the line....one on a monster contract the other guy on his second franchise tag? Oh and the 50M corner? Oh and the 1st & 2nd round corner opposite him? Oh and Oscan isn't playing for peanuts. Oh and two LBs who were drafted in the 2nd round? Oh and what about that stretch from 2002 to 2008 when 7 of 8 1st round draft picks went to defenders?

You're literally just making things up. That's fine though. Very easy to factually smack you down.

 

[Galian Beast]

You mean like Last year when we had two first rounders on the line....one on a monster contract the other guy on his second franchise tag? Oh and the 50M corner? Oh and the 1st & 2nd round corner opposite him? Oh and Oscan isn't playing for peanuts. Oh and two LBs who were drafted in the 2nd round? Oh and what about that stretch from 2002 to 2008 when 7 of 8 1st round draft picks went to defenders?

You're literally just making things up. That's fine though. Very easy to factually smack you down.

Facts

Last year we spent

$48,533,828 on defense
$49,421,817 on offense

This might seem like parity, except when you realize that we restructured Romo's contract, and Witten's contract, and that they heavily outweigh Carr's.

With less heavy restructuring you this year you can see the unbalance

$54,187,613 on offense
$46,818,794 on defense

2016

$73,587,559 on offense (doesn't include Bryant and Murray)
$53,171,447 on defense

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Facts

Last year we spent

$48,533,828 on defense
$49,421,817 on offense

This might seem like parity, except when you realize that we restructured Romo's contract, and Witten's contract, and that they heavily outweigh Carr's.

With less heavy restructuring you this year you can see the unbalance

$54,187,613 on offense
$46,818,794 on defense

2016

$73,587,559 on offense (doesn't include Bryant and Murray)
$53,171,447 on defense

So please tell me. How does your argument that that offense got the lion's share investment translate to a 50/50 spend? And don't talk to me about restructures. We've restructured guys like Ware and Carr in the past. Given that we are paying top dollar to a QB is not evidence that the defense has been short changed.

You talk about facts using a one year snapshot of spend knowing that NFL contracts are much to complicated with money shifting around for that to mean much.

You know what means something? Spending nearly a decade drafting 7 defenders and 1 offensive player. That's what you call short thrift on the defensive side of the ball? Please address this fact.

 

[Galian Beast]

So please tell me. How does your argument that that offense got the lion's share investment translate to a 50/50 spend? And don't talk to me about restructures. We've restructured guys like Ware and Carr in the past. Given that we are paying top dollar to a QB is not evidence that the defense has been short changed.

You talk about facts using a one year snapshot of spend knowing that NFL contracts are much to complicated with money shifting around for that to mean much.

You know what means something? Spending nearly a decade drafting 7 defenders and 1 offensive player. That's what you call short thrift on the defensive side of the ball? Please address this fact.

LOL, see what you did... you just ignored the fact that they aren't at all even... to make your argument...

Again, you look at the spending and the draft picks and the offense has gotten the lionshare of picks, especially high picks).

 

[Toruk_Makto]

LOL, see what you did... you just ignored the fact that they aren't at all even... to make your argument...

Again, you look at the spending and the draft picks and the offense has gotten the lionshare of picks, especially high picks).

So 2002-2008 didn't happen to you?

If anything the recent picks on offense is really just them getting their due after being short thrifted by the defense.

You talk about facts and say the offense has gotten the lionshare of premium picks. Over the last 12 years that number is 8 to 5 first rounders in favor of the defense. Please explain.

And again looking at a snapshot of one year's spend is incredibly embarrassing for you. You know that right?

 

[Galian Beast]

So 2002-2008 didn't happen to you?

If anything the recent picks on offense is really just them getting their due after being short thrifted by the defense.

You talk about facts and say the offense has gotten the lionshare of premium picks. Over the last 12 years that number is 8 to 5 first rounders in favor of the defense. Please explain.

And again looking at a snapshot of one year's spend is incredibly embarrassing for you. You know that right?

2002-2008? If you have to go back six+ years to show when we focused on defense, that should tell you we have a problem.

And one years snapshot? I just gave you four or five years...

 

[Toruk_Makto]

2002-2008? If you have to go back six+ years to show when we focused on defense, that should tell you we have a problem.

And one years snapshot? I just gave you four or five years...

Not really. These things ebb and flow. I showed you that over this decade we've invested much more draft capital on defense than offense.

That's a fact dude.

Yes we took 3 first round offensive lineman. Good. We had to rebuild that unit. But we also spent a ton of draft capital those years on defense. I'm still failing to see how we skipped on defense when again we had huge investments in Ware, Carr, Lee, spencer and used premium draft capital.

On offense we had big contracts in Romo and Witt.

Just admit you said a couple stupid things and we can move on.

 

[Galian Beast]

Not really. These things ebb and flow. I showed you that over this decade we've invested much more draft capital on defense than offense.

That's a fact dude.

Yes we took 3 first round offensive lineman. Good. We had to rebuild that unit. But we also spent a ton of draft capital those years on defense. I'm still failing to see how we skipped on defense when again we had huge investments in Ware, Carr, Lee, spencer and used premium draft capital.

On offense we had big contracts in Romo and Witt.

Just admit you said a couple stupid things and we can move on.

No we invested in defense under Parcells, and since then, we've let the defense go by the wayside. There was no ebb and flow about it.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

No we invested in defense under Parcells, and since then, we've let the defense go by the wayside. There was no ebb and flow about it.

I'm not sure what you call 7 of 8 defensive 1st rounders followed by 4 of 5 offensive 1st rounders anything but ebb and flow.

That also doesn't take into consideration draft investments into guys like Crawford and Wilcox and Lee and Carter.

But whatever dude.

 

[xwalker]

I think it took so long because we focused so much on offense, rather than defense under Garrett's tenure. The offense was already somewhat productive, and all of our investments in the offense have had diminishing returns, while the defense fell by the wayside.

This is why I hate giving Garrett credit now. He hasn't really done anything. We drafted an offensive line? Yeah, great, we should have done that a long time ago, many of us have stated as much. We also said we should have drafted a defensive line.

They drafted Claiborne and signed Carr while Garrett was the HC. They were spending over 30M on the DLine in 2013.

 

[Yoshimitsu]

2nd best TOP vs 2nd Worst. That isn't a good stat in the Eagles favor. They can do all that speed up to the line stuff they want but if they aren't controlling the clock they aren't possessing the ball. Then the offense gets out of rhythm and you start seeing that inconsistent version of Foles.