Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Hardline, Nov 25, 2020.
He's been mocked to us at #4 by a certain mock draft website
He literally came out of nowhere.
You asking about Twity or his other brother Kwity?
Great athlete and tools, doesn’t have the production to match. Has zero business being drafted in the top 5, let alone top 10.
Hell get overdrafted bc he’s a DE, and my gut says goes somewhere in the top 20 because it’s a terrible class.
Jeez. How embarrassing for me .
No way at all he's a top-5 prospect.
Scouting report says a freakish 3 cone. I d prefer freakish productivity.
The guy has played 3 games this year and has 2 sacks..chill out on the lack of production..
Before season there was a lot of talk about him because of his freakish athleticism.
Bruce does a really good job each year talking to assistant coaches, S & C coaches, personal trainers, and putting together this annual list.
As far as Paye on the field. he has played very well, despite Michigan's overall disappointing performance this season. 88.6 PFF Grade so far.
On pace to be a top 15/20 draft pick. If we win the division and are drafting 19th, you all should be thrilled if we land him. Uninformed critics will hold his "athletic freak" label against him and some dumb-dumbs here will helmet scout and compare him to Taco Charlton, especially since they have similar size..Taco 6'6" 270, Kwity 6'4" 272, but the athleticism numbers won't be close.
40-yard dash : Kwity Paye 4.57 - Taco Charlton 4.92
3-Cone: Paye 6.37 - Charlton 7.17
Vertical: Paye 34" - Charlton 33"
Bench: Paye 30 reps - Charlton 25 reps
Pro Shuttle: Paye 4.15 - Charlton 4.39
Paye was a high school state camp in 4x100 and in the long jump.
Does last season not count?
Charlton would be an awful comp as he’s about the opposite of Paye. He was a pedestrian athlete with pretty solid production. Paye appears to be a great athlete with pretty pedestrian production.
A better comp would be Chaison from last year. I liked him better but still didn’t like him as a top 20 player as it kind of a boom or bust pick.
I saw that mock and the pick for us at that slot made no sense by their own rankings.
I think they had him ranked 30+ overall and they did not even rank him as the top player at his position. It was bizarre
Michigan players have had an awful time transitioning to the pros in recent years, just across the board. Something is very dysfunctional about that team.
Paye kind of reminds me of Rashan Gary: an all-world athlete at UMich with really poor production. Gary went top 15 to the Packers and has basically been invisible since. Partly because the two Smiths have been so productive at OLB for them, but if Gary had game, he'd still find his way onto the field.
Paye deserves a top 20 shot just on his Planet Theory physical traits alone, but I'm not bullish on him at all.
Similar to former Michigan player Rashaun Gary. Gary is stuck behind the Smith's in Green Bay.....I think it comes to heart. Gary was only motivated his last season . Paye I think is close to Gary.
I agree for the most part, but in the top 20 I’m not a big fan on picking someone for traits and athleticism. I want more of a sure thing picking that early.
His style looks much more like successful NFL pass rushers than Gregory Rousseau's style.
Kwity beats OTs with straight-up outside pass rushes.
All of Rousseau's sacks that I saw were from cutting back inside against OTs or from starting out from an inside alignment.
He is bigger (weight wise) than Chaisson and about the same as Taco (Paye projected in the mid 270 range). Chaisson was 254 and Taco was 277.
Height is similar to Chaisson (Chaisson was 6-3). Paye is projected to be almost 6-3.
Chaisson didn't do any performance measurable drills at the combine or pro-day but Paye appears to have similar athleticism while being about 15 to 20 pounds heavier.
Chaisson athletic traits but weight similar to Taco (about 15 to 20 pounds heavier than Chaisson).
I've been so busy this season that I haven't really seen half of the guys y'all have all spent time scouting already. This guy is a very interesting prospect. Could he split time standing up on the edge like Nolan (and others) like to do now? Or is he strictly a hand in the ground guy?
He looks like a potential target in a trade back.
Yea my comparison to Chaisson is that he'd be a traits pick and there's some boom or bust to it since he hasn't showed 1st round production at the collegiate level.
He's Mr. and Mrs. Paye's son. Currently attending the University of Michigan.