Terrell Owens, WR — Dallas Cowboys

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Gryphon;1717700 said:
NFC Leaders Passes Dropped

Rank Name Team Games Drops
1 Devery Henderson NO 5 8
2 Santana Moss WAS 4 6
T-3 Reggie Bush NO 5 5
T-3 Terrell Owens DAL 6 5
T-3 Steve Smith CAR 6 5
T-3 Jason Witten DAL 6 5
T-7 Cedric Benson CHI 6 4
T-7 Plaxico Burress NYG 6 4
T-7 Michael Jenkins ATL 6 4
T-7 Brian Westbrook PHI 4 4
T-7 Roy Williams DET 5 4
T-12 Bernard Berrian CHI 6 3
T-12 Anquan Boldin ARI 3 3
T-12 Isaac Bruce STL 4 3
T-12 Correll Buckhalter PHI 5 3
T-12 Keary Colbert CAR 6 3
T-12 DeShaun Foster CAR 6 3
T-12 Frank Gore SF 5 3
T-12 Edgerrin James ARI 6 3
T-12 Randy McMichael STL 6 3
T-12 Mike Sellers WAS 5 3
T-12 Jeremy Shockey NYG 6 3
FINALLY! THank you for pointing out that Witten has been a mess dropping passes all season as well.

WHy isn't Tom Jackson harping on Witten's dropped passes???
 

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EPL0c0;1718573 said:
FINALLY! THank you for pointing out that Witten has been a mess dropping passes all season as well.

WHy isn't Tom Jackson harping on Witten's dropped passes???

When is the last time you heard Witten say get your popcorn ready? :laugh2: TO like to talk and draw attention to himself and when you do that people are going to watch you closely. Witten goes out week in and week out with hardly a word.
 

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EPL0c0;1718573 said:
FINALLY! THank you for pointing out that Witten has been a mess dropping passes all season as well.

WHy isn't Tom Jackson harping on Witten's dropped passes???

Haha, i love the Cowboy fans and their conspiracy theories about the media.....Witten isn't even close to TO's status and if you are considered to be one of the best in the game and you start sucking it up, people are going to start talking about it.
 

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Doomsday101;1718612 said:
When is the last time you heard Witten say get your popcorn ready?

NEVER !!

But one time I did hear him say, "Fire up the grill, .. the steaks are ready". :D
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WV Cowboy;1718627 said:
NEVER !!

But one time I did hear him say, "Fire up the grill, .. the steaks are ready". :D
:laugh2:

:laugh2: Please believe me when I say I was not knocking TO but the truth is yeah TO is going to draw attention to himself with his comments and when you do that people will look for your mistakes. Witten just goes out and does his job
 

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littlejohn;1718624 said:
Haha, i love the Cowboy fans and their conspiracy theories about the media.....Witten isn't even close to TO's status and if you are considered to be one of the best in the game and you start sucking it up, people are going to start talking about it.

If that is the case Witten is in TO status as one of the best in the game as far as the TE position goes. Witten just does not stand on a soap box about the job he does.
 

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Doomsday101;1718631 said:
Witten just goes out and does his job

In a perfect world, every player would just play and not spout off.

Those are my favorite players, like Witten, Barber, Romo, Ware.
 

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Doomsday101;1718638 said:
If that is the case Witten is in TO status as one of the best in the game as far as the TE position goes. Witten just does not stand on a soap box about the job he does.

Well, how often do you ever hear about any TE in the NFL dropping passes?
 

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littlejohn;1718648 said:
Well, how often do you ever hear about any TE in the NFL dropping passes?

Depends on who the TE is. Shockey has been called out in the past because of dropped passes but again Shockey draw negative attention to himself.
 

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Doomsday101;1718631 said:
:laugh2: Please believe me when I say I was not knocking TO but the truth is yeah TO is going to draw attention to himself with his comments and when you do that people will look for your mistakes. Witten just goes out and does his job


I agree. Too much talk from TO... just go out and produce....

But...

We are not giving him HIS type of plays.... that popcorn could be a poppin justabout every sunday.... and its not.
 

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YoMick;1718662 said:
I agree. Too much talk from TO... just go out and produce....

But...

We are not giving him HIS type of plays.... that popcorn could be a poppin justabout every sunday.... and its not.

Please not that again, Garrett is moving him around, putting him in the slot everything people complained about last season. Bottom line is if he is covered then Romo has to go to the open man. Romo does not need to force the issue when he has other legit weapons who can do the job. Dallas has had little problem of putting up points. If TO is open get him the ball if not then go to the next target.
 

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Doomsday101;1718668 said:
Please not that again, Garrett is moving him around, putting him in the slot everything people complained about last season. Bottom line is if he is covered then Romo has to go to the open man. Romo does not need to force the issue when he has other legit weapons who can do the job. Dallas has had little problem of putting up points. If TO is open get him the ball if not then go to the next target.


So you are ok with the playcalling for TO?



I would rather TO get 3 of HIS high percentage throws/catches a game for 2 TD's over just x amount of opportunities. This guy has strengths, we dont utilize them.

And Yes, THAT again... because it has not changed all that much.... we look to be regressing with getting TO involve the right way... like last year
 

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YoMick;1718690 said:
So you are ok with the playcalling for TO?



I would rather TO get 3 of HIS high percentage throws/catches a game for 2 TD's over just x amount of opportunities. This guy has strengths, we dont utilize them.

And Yes, THAT again... because it has not changed all that much.... we look to be regressing with getting TO involve the right way... like last year

TO is a member of the offense this is not TO offense and yes I'm happy that we are one of the highest scoring teams in the NFL. I don't care about TO stats if he is open get him the ball if not then go to someone else. This is not about TO this is all about the Dallas Cowboys and TO is a member of the team and yes Garrett is using him as he should and they have moved him around and put him in the slot and yes we are using him correctly but if the defense insist on taking him out it is not hard to do aginst any WR if you are willing to give up plays else where. Dallas last week for the most part took Moss out of the game but in doing to we got killed by others why because Brady was smart enough and the OC was smart enough to know that you don't force the issue.
 

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Doomsday101;1718699 said:
TO is a member of the offense this is not TO offense and yes I'm happy that we are one of the highest scoring teams in the NFL. I don't care about TO stats if he is open get him the ball if not then go to someone else. This is not about TO this is all about the Dallas Cowboys and TO is a member of the team and yes Garrett is using him as he should and they have moved him around and put him in the slot and yes we are using him correctly but if the defense insist on taking him out it is not hard to do aginst any WR if you are willing to give up plays else where. Dallas last week for the most part took Moss out of the game but in doing to we got killed by others why because Brady was smart enough and the OC was smart enough to know that you don't force the issue.

Its funny how Mcnabb forced the issue with TO and it worked.Its because his RAC is great and he needs more touches.
 

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juckie;1718706 said:
Its funny how Mcnabb forced the issue with TO and it worked.Its because his RAC is great and he needs more touches.

Different offense in the WCO. Dallas is not having problem scoring points and unlike Philly Dallas has other weapons for Romo to go to. Again I'm not interested in personal stats they don't mean anything I'm only interested in the offense scoring points and we have and winning ball games and we have.
 

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Doomsday101;1718699 said:
TO is a member of the offense this is not TO offense and yes I'm happy that we are one of the highest scoring teams in the NFL. I don't care about TO stats if he is open get him the ball if not then go to someone else. This is not about TO this is all about the Dallas Cowboys and TO is a member of the team and yes Garrett is using him as he should and they have moved him around and put him in the slot and yes we are using him correctly but if the defense insist on taking him out it is not hard to do aginst any WR if you are willing to give up plays else where. Dallas last week for the most part took Moss out of the game but in doing to we got killed by others why because Brady was smart enough and the OC was smart enough to know that you don't force the issue.

Well you can live in that world if you want to my friend.
Its more about TO than you want it to be. He needs more touches, his high percentage plays - THAT will help us win when we play GOOD teams. He was brought in to be a playmaker, a gamechanger - he is not being put in position to do so. I know the drops, but thats not changed... he had them before but the BIG plays pretty negated that. If we just use him as a decoy and if he is double covered we go elsewhere WE(not the other team) are reducing his effectiveness in the game.

They want to double team him - put him in the slot. Slant. Bam! Its getting frustrating... I can just see another "why did you bring me here" rant coming on.... and you know what..... HE WOULD BE DEAD ON BALLS accurate.

You are talking about stats that have these loser teams that we have played.
 

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YoMick;1718734 said:
Well you can live in that world if you want to my friend.
Its more about TO than you want it to be. He needs more touches, his high percentage plays - THAT will help us win when we play GOOD teams. He was brought in to be a playmaker, a gamechanger - he is not being put in position to do so. I know the drops, but thats not changed... he had them before but the BIG plays pretty negated that. If we just use him as a decoy and if he is double covered we go elsewhere WE(not the other team) are reducing his effectiveness in the game.

They want to double team him - put him in the slot. Slant. Bam! Its getting frustrating... I can just see another "why did you bring me here" rant coming on.... and you know what..... HE WOULD BE DEAD ON BALLS accurate.

You are talking about stats that have these loser teams that we have played.

I think Garrett know what he is doing more so than you know. This offense scores points and yes TO is an important part but you don't forces passes that is stupid to risk ints by trying to hit guys that are covered. Also Dallas has moved him around they have put him in the slot so while you have all these great ideals it does not change the fact that Romo has said time and again the open man gets the ball or do you not understand that? TO is open he gets the ball if not we have other weapons who can do the job. Dallas put guys on Moss and what happened? Brady went to the open man that is what good QB's do and that is what successful teams do.
 

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YoMick;1718690 said:
So you are ok with the playcalling for TO?



I would rather TO get 3 of HIS high percentage throws/catches a game for 2 TD's over just x amount of opportunities. This guy has strengths, we dont utilize them.

And Yes, THAT again... because it has not changed all that much.... we look to be regressing with getting TO involve the right way... like last year

Wow, so if Witten is open or Crayton Romo should force the ball to owens (hope he actually catches it) because he's owens? No thnx.
owens has been used to his strengths. Aikman used to throw to Irvin even though he was covered, Irvin used to make the play. Maybe Romo doesn't have that confidence in owens.

If Romo was forcing the ball to owens and it wasn't working people would want to hang him.
 

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YoMick;1718734 said:
They want to double team him - put him in the slot. Slant. Bam! Its getting frustrating... I can just see another "why did you bring me here" rant coming on.... and you know what..... HE WOULD BE DEAD ON BALLS accurate.
:abuseme:

We're trying to get him the ball all we can. He's among the most targeted WRs in the league. He needs to run better routes and catch the damn ball.

I think some people may need to accept that T.O. is 34 and isn't the same player he was in San Francisco or his first year at Philly.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1718748 said:
Wow, so if Witten is open or Crayton Romo should force the ball to owens (hope he actually catches it) because he's owens? No thnx.
owens has been used to his strengths. Aikman used to throw to Irvin even though he was covered, Irvin used to make the play. Maybe Romo doesn't have that confidence in owens.

If Romo was forcing the ball to owens and it wasn't working people would want to hang him.


You dont have a player like you have in TO and just make him part of the team and a regular player. YOU HAVE to make him a Primary read. That could mean that you have to create a better matchup for him and Romo.

Wade has said as much.
 
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