Terry Glenn's Agent Says HBO'S HardKnocks Unethical

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HBO acted unethically during its Hard Knocks series by taping Jerry Jones' conversation with Terry Glenn's agent, James Gould -- in which Glenn's knee problems were referenced -- and airing it without the agent's consent. In Texas, phone conversations can be taped without one party knowing. ''I had no knowledge I would be taped, and I'm very unhappy about it,'' Gould said. -- Miami Herald
 

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You'd think this would have come out, oh I don't know, three weeks ago when the show aired. The timing is odd.
 

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Is the guy offended that Glenn's knee problems became public?

Thus ruining his attempt to fool another team into signing him?

:confused:
 

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The guy is just pissed because he can't sell his broken product anymore. I liked TG a lot, but he's done, and his agent knows it.
 

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stasheroo;2220641 said:
Is the guy offended that Glenn's knee problems became public?

Thus ruining his attempt to fool another team into signing him?

:confused:
I'm positive that that's the reason.

As far as taping phone calls in Texas, wasn't Jerry in California at the time? Or maybe the agent was in Texas?
 

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Boyzmamacita;2220648 said:
I'm positive that that's the reason.

As far as taping phone calls in Texas, wasn't Jerry in California at the time? Or maybe the agent was in Texas?

Jerry was wearing his Cowboy boots with Texas mud stuck on 'em, so technically he was still in Texas.

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Boyzmamacita;2220648 said:
I'm positive that that's the reason.

As far as taping phone calls in Texas, wasn't Jerry in California at the time? Or maybe the agent was in Texas?

Ooh, that's a good point. Pretty sure that was his hotel office in Oxnard.

I still feel really bad for Terry Glenn. Yeah, I know you can say he "stole" money without playing last year, but the guy really gutted it out and tried taking one for the team even with the down-the-road risks he took. I'll always respect him immensely for that.
 

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RainMan;2220655 said:
Ooh, that's a good point. Pretty sure that was his hotel office in Oxnard.

He was. I just rewatched it on the first hard knocks.
 

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i thought it was odd they aired that when i saw it.
with all the medical privacy forms you have to fill out at the dr's office
and pharmacy these days i just figured glenn or his agent had signed off
on that segment. guess i was wrong.
and to be honest i felt like it was a bad thing to do as far as helping/hurting
glenns chances to continue his career.
 

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It not unethical if one party knows they are being recorded then that is all that is needed.
 

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Just in case anybody was wondering.

California law does not allow tape recording of telephone calls unless all parties to the conversation consent (California Penal Code 632), or they are notified of the recording by a distinct "beep tone" warning (CPUC General Order 107-B(II)(A)(5)). However, tape recordings can legally be made if an individual or members of one's family are threatened with kidnapping, extortion, bribery or another felony involving violence. The person receiving the threats can make a tape recording without informing the other party. (California Penal Code 633.5)


Federal law allows recording of phone calls and other electronic communications with the consent of at least one party to the call. A majority of the states and territories have adopted laws based on the federal standard. But 12 states, including California, require the consent of all parties to the call. These are are California, Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and Washington.
 

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poke;2220665 said:
i thought it was odd they aired that when i saw it.
with all the medical privacy forms you have to fill out at the dr's office
and pharmacy these days i just figured glenn or his agent had signed off
on that segment. guess i was wrong.
and to be honest i felt like it was a bad thing to do as far as helping/hurting
glenns chances to continue his career.

I could be deemed unethical by both parties, but the fact of the matter is that the show only aired what was essentially 'Jerry's opinion'...rather than a real diagnosis.
 

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It was publicly announced well in advance that HBO would be taping the Cowboys' training camp. It is also public knowledge just how invasive HBO's coverage is during a team's training camp. If Gould is comtemplating suing over 'unethical issues', HBO should countersue him for atypically blind stupidity.
 

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Feel for TG on that a little but not the agent...Aren't most of these clowns attorneys anyway?...I mean, come on
 

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Where did this conversation take place? CA, TX? Was one party in one state and one in another? Is so, the person taping the conversation might be prosecuted in the state where the other person is located according to that state's laws.
 

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He was fully aware or should have been that the team was being featured on the show and that that meant everything was being taped and recorded. He should have started that conversation by requesting any camera or tape recording device be shut off. Don't see where he has much case. They should have taken the original deal when Jerry offered it!
 

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links18;2220695 said:
Where did this conversation take place? CA, TX? Was one party in one state and one in another? Is so, the person taping the conversation might be prosecuted in the state where the other person is located according to that state's laws.

Jerry was in Oxnard, CA...no idea where Gould was.
 

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Well so much for the cowboys the only team without run-ins with the law...
 

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:money::showme::jackpot:

that's what he's asking for...
 

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HBO acted unethically during its Hard Knocks series by taping Jerry Jones' conversation with Terry Glenn's agent, James Gould -- in which Glenn's knee problems were referenced -- and airing it without the agent's consent. In Texas, phone conversations can be taped without one party knowing. ''I had no knowledge I would be taped, and I'm very unhappy about it,'' Gould said. -- Miami Herald

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