THANK GOD we got Jerry Jones!

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skinsscalper;1978616 said:
While I don't think Jerry is perfect, EVERY ONE of those moves seemed logical at the time.

1. Firing Landry. Sorry but Landry had to go. The game had totally passed this guy by. I grew up watching Landry and I loved him, but his coaching style wasn't effective anymore and he was no longer the innovator that he was for the previous two and a half decades. The only thing that I have qualms about is HOW Jerry got rid of Landry. The whole deal could have been done with more tact. Jerry has admitted this and cites it as one of his single biggest blunders since purchasing the Cowboys.

2. The whole not being able to get along with Jimmy had a lot more to do with Jimmy than Jerry. Jerry wanted to extend Jimmy's contract multiple years. Jimmy wanted no part of it. Jimmy still had South Florida on his mind and was actually considering the possibility of being able to coach the NFL expansion Jaguars. When it was apparent that Jimmy's time in Dallas was limited anyway, Jerry made the famous "500 coaches" comment during the league owners meetings. A jab at Johnson, no doubt, that facilitated the "mutual parting". The fact remains Jimmy wanted out. He had done what he had come here to do and he was poised to move on. Jones, not being one to beat around the bush, figured if it's over then let's move on and accelerated the process.

3. Without a doubt the biggest mistake (player wise) that Jerry has made since owning the Cowboys. Two firsts is a heavy price to pay for ANY player. On a WR it's suicide. BUT, the Cowboys needed a true #1 on the flank for an aging yet still effective Troy Aikman. The Cowboys weren't quite dead yet and at that point the entire NFC East was as weak as ever. The Cowboys window of opportunity was closing fast and Jerry knew it. It was a move made out of desperation. Those moves almost never work out. But you can't fault the man for laying everything on the line to win. Was it a bad decision? Of course, but it wasn't a decision that was made to save money, or boost ticket sales. It was a move Jerry thought he had to make at the time to win. You can fault Jerry Jones for a lot of things. Tanking a season or not doing everything in his power to putting out a winning team will never be one of them.

4. Ahh the Emmitt Smith ordeal. First of all let's face it: Emmit was done. And, he was done WAY before he was ever released by the Cowboys. The forgotten gem in this whole debacle was the fact that Jerry Jones actually offered Emmitt MORE money (albeit on a one year deal) than the Cardinals were willing to give him (at a yearly average) on a multi year deal. Emmitt had his choice and he CHOSE Arizona. I went to the very first pre-season game of Emmitt's at Sun Devil Stadium against none other than Bill Parcell's Dallas Cowboys (I was so sure that I was seeing history because I KNEW Parcells would lead us to the Super Bowl and I was going to see the first game he EVER coached for the Cowboys). You could see it in Emmit's face on the sideline that whole game that he knew this was all wrong. His forced enthusiasm and half hearted waves to his "new" fans were as genuine as a snake oil salesman. He had made a mistake and he knew it (the Cowboys lost that game BTW, and Romo looked HORRIBLE. I remember thinking "If we EVER have to rely on this guy we are DONE" LOL). You can lay that whole debacle squarely on Emmitt. Jerry had already taken enough heat for overpaying for washed up players. He wasn't about to do it again on a team that was being rebuilt in every facet of the word. The only area where Jones stumbled in letting go of Emmitt was not replacing him with a decent back (like Steven Davis) at the time. But that goes squarely on the football genius Bill Parcells also.


I Agree and Disagree with some of the things in no.2
 

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satam55;1978642 said:
I Agree and Disagree with some of the things in no.2


By all means elaborate. It's a message board. There's all kinds of room for discussion.
 

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ThatsmyQB;1978473 said:
Thank GOD we have Jerry Jones as our G.M. and not Al davis!
Raiders just signed Gibril Wilson, a run of the mill safet to a 6 year 39 million dollar contract after they give D.T. Tommy Kelly who I STILL have no idea who he is to a 7 year 50 million dollar contract.
That's 89 Million dollars on contracts to TWO PEOPLE who NEITHER ever sniffed a pro-bowl! LOL


All I have to say is THANK GOD for Jerry Jones!

Who is Tommy Kelly? I guess that is Al Davis making a WOW move. Made me say WOW.
 

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Big Dakota;1978483 said:
I LOVE Jerry and am in no way bashing him, but saying "thank God our GM is better than Al" is like saying thank God i didn't get on the Titanic. WELL DUH!!!!:banghead:
Didn't realize you were that old.
 

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ThatsmyQB;1978473 said:
Thank GOD we have Jerry Jones as our G.M. and not Al davis!
Raiders just signed Gibril Wilson, a run of the mill safet to a 6 year 39 million dollar contract after they give D.T. Tommy Kelly who I STILL have no idea who he is to a 7 year 50 million dollar contract.
That's 89 Million dollars on contracts to TWO PEOPLE who NEITHER ever sniffed a pro-bowl! LOL


All I have to say is THANK GOD for Jerry Jones!


Yes, thank God we have Jerry Jones. 11 years without a playoff win just kicks major ***. We could never have done it without him.
 

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or he could be cleveland's GM that had traded away his entire first days worth of draft picks.
 

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ABQcowboyJR;1978538 said:
I have always liked Jerry. He brings alot to the table money wise and buiness wise. I do think things could have worked out better with Jimmy and Tuna if we didnt have him though. I was not alive for Landry so some will have to fill me in on his greatness. In general I approve of him.

I take this as a personal affront. I have raised you better then that. How can you say that you don't know much about Coach Landry? Proof positive that a parent can talk but that doesn't mean there listening.

18 years and you haven't heard one word I've said of Coach Landry. Don't know if I should go out and shoot myself or find you first, then shoot myself.

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ABQCOWBOY;1978959 said:
I take this as a personal affront. I have raised you better then that. How can you say that you don't know much about Coach Landry? Proof positive that a parent can talk but that doesn't mean there listening.

18 years and you haven't heard one word I've said of Coach Landry. Don't know if I should go out and shoot myself or find you first, then shoot myself.

:laugh2:

:laugh2:

With all due respect ABQ, at 18 years old he couldn't possibly know too much about Landry.You can talk until you're blue in the face, but until you EXPERIENCE Tom Landry, you just can't possibly know.

I'm in the same boat with a lot of Cowboys legends. I didn't start watching football until 1980. I missed out on some of the greatest players and tradition in the Cowboys history. Lilly, Hayes, Staubach. I can read about them and research them until I'm blue in the face. It doesn't change the fact that I missed out and will never truly know the Cowboys experience that came with their presence.:(
 

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ThatsmyQB;1978473 said:
Thank GOD we have Jerry Jones as our G.M. and not Al davis!
Raiders just signed Gibril Wilson, a run of the mill safet to a 6 year 39 million dollar contract after they give D.T. Tommy Kelly who I STILL have no idea who he is to a 7 year 50 million dollar contract.
That's 89 Million dollars on contracts to TWO PEOPLE who NEITHER ever sniffed a pro-bowl! LOL


All I have to say is THANK GOD for Jerry Jones!

..our future Draft Day trading partner, Al Davis that way.

He and Jerry are going to swing the deal to get their #1 pick so we can get McFadden.

Let him keep making these deals. He's going to quickly realize he won't have enough cap left to sign his #1 pick at the 4 spot and will need to move back.

Enter Jerry Jones to his rescue.

And once we make that trade, in the future, be so kind as to refer to him as Mr. Davis, please.

We'll owe him at least that.

:lmao2:

:starspin ReDBall ExPreSS:starspin
 

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skinsscalper;1978616 said:
While I don't think Jerry is perfect, EVERY ONE of those moves seemed logical at the time.

1. Firing Landry. Sorry but Landry had to go. The game had totally passed this guy by. I grew up watching Landry and I loved him, but his coaching style wasn't effective anymore and he was no longer the innovator that he was for the previous two and a half decades. The only thing that I have qualms about is HOW Jerry got rid of Landry. The whole deal could have been done with more tact. Jerry has admitted this and cites it as one of his single biggest blunders since purchasing the Cowboys.

2. The whole not being able to get along with Jimmy had a lot more to do with Jimmy than Jerry. Jerry wanted to extend Jimmy's contract multiple years. Jimmy wanted no part of it. Jimmy still had South Florida on his mind and was actually considering the possibility of being able to coach the NFL expansion Jaguars. When it was apparent that Jimmy's time in Dallas was limited anyway, Jerry made the famous "500 coaches" comment during the league owners meetings. A jab at Johnson, no doubt, that facilitated the "mutual parting". The fact remains Jimmy wanted out. He had done what he had come here to do and he was poised to move on. Jones, not being one to beat around the bush, figured if it's over then let's move on and accelerated the process.

3. Without a doubt the biggest mistake (player wise) that Jerry has made since owning the Cowboys. Two firsts is a heavy price to pay for ANY player. On a WR it's suicide. BUT, the Cowboys needed a true #1 on the flank for an aging yet still effective Troy Aikman. The Cowboys weren't quite dead yet and at that point the entire NFC East was as weak as ever. The Cowboys window of opportunity was closing fast and Jerry knew it. It was a move made out of desperation. Those moves almost never work out. But you can't fault the man for laying everything on the line to win. Was it a bad decision? Of course, but it wasn't a decision that was made to save money, or boost ticket sales. It was a move Jerry thought he had to make at the time to win. You can fault Jerry Jones for a lot of things. Tanking a season or not doing everything in his power to putting out a winning team will never be one of them.

4. Ahh the Emmitt Smith ordeal. First of all let's face it: Emmit was done. And, he was done WAY before he was ever released by the Cowboys. The forgotten gem in this whole debacle was the fact that Jerry Jones actually offered Emmitt MORE money (albeit on a one year deal) than the Cardinals were willing to give him (at a yearly average) on a multi year deal. Emmitt had his choice and he CHOSE Arizona. I went to the very first pre-season game of Emmitt's at Sun Devil Stadium against none other than Bill Parcell's Dallas Cowboys (I was so sure that I was seeing history because I KNEW Parcells would lead us to the Super Bowl and I was going to see the first game he EVER coached for the Cowboys). You could see it in Emmit's face on the sideline that whole game that he knew this was all wrong. His forced enthusiasm and half hearted waves to his "new" fans were as genuine as a snake oil salesman. He had made a mistake and he knew it (the Cowboys lost that game BTW, and Romo looked HORRIBLE. I remember thinking "If we EVER have to rely on this guy we are DONE" LOL). You can lay that whole debacle squarely on Emmitt. Jerry had already taken enough heat for overpaying for washed up players. He wasn't about to do it again on a team that was being rebuilt in every facet of the word. The only area where Jones stumbled in letting go of Emmitt was not replacing him with a decent back (like Steven Davis) at the time. But that goes squarely on the football genius Bill Parcells also.
 

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es22;1978537 said:
Jerry is the Best owner in Sports, bar none!!!

I'm with you. I wish he would come and buy the St. Louis Cardinals. He'd own the two greatest franchises in sports.
 

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satam55;1978642 said:
I Agree and Disagree with some of the things in no.2

A good No 2 is always an agreeable thing...Okay, Sorry about that.

I totally agree with No 2. I hope that side of the complete story never gets lost again.
 

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ThatsmyQB;1978473 said:
Thank GOD we have Jerry Jones as our G.M. and not Al davis!
Raiders just signed Gibril Wilson, a run of the mill safet to a 6 year 39 million dollar contract after they give D.T. Tommy Kelly who I STILL have no idea who he is to a 7 year 50 million dollar contract.
That's 89 Million dollars on contracts to TWO PEOPLE who NEITHER ever sniffed a pro-bowl! LOL


All I have to say is THANK GOD for Jerry Jones!

Yes I often try to remind myself things can always go from bad to worse! Comparing Jethro and Senile Al is like comparing the price of Gas/Diesel now compared to what I'm hearing the prices will be at some point this year.
 

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Big Dakota;1978483 said:
I LOVE Jerry and am in no way bashing him, but saying "thank God our GM is better than Al" is like saying thank God i didn't get on the Titanic. WELL DUH!!!!:banghead:


UMM I love Jerry :rolleyes:
 

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es22;1978537 said:
Jerry is the Best owner in Sports, bar none!!!
MIke Illitch of the Detroit redwings/tigers and Little Ceasers pizza would give him a run for the money.
Illitch likes to win and is smart enough to hire guys to run his organizations.
 

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panchucko;1979208 said:
MIke Illitch of the Detroit redwings/tigers and Little Ceasers pizza would give him a run for the money.
Illitch likes to win and is smart enough to hire guys to run his organizations.

Yeah, seems to have really worked out for him. Let's see the Tigers pulled off one of the biggest choke jobs in the World Series then proceeded to disappear last year, and the Red Wings have been perennial contenders for the Stanley Cup, lately.

:rolleyes:
 
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