Thanks Roy Barron...

[DEMFAN]

If you don't think Garrett is fuming over Roy Barron right now you're kidding yourself. Just sayin.

He should be fuming he didnt call 1 run play to get in a little close for the field goal in my opinion, or fuming at Barber 4th and 1 trying to run wide like he has some wheels LOL. I knew that wasnt going anywhere.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

If you don't think Garrett is fuming over Roy Barron right now you're kidding yourself. Just sayin.

Ah someone who claims to know what Garrett thinks lol.

Did Roy cause all the other fumbles we had this game? Or make Gurode have about 3 bad snaps? Or make McBriar fumble the snap? Or take any of the ill timed penalties that we had?

He made a mistake.. just because it was at the end of the game doesn't mean its any better or worse than any of the other mistakes we made this game. Sloppy play all around.

Im sure Garrett is upset at Roy.. but certainly he's not the only one. The entire team is guilty of poor execution.

 

[Bleu Star]

Just for the record.... There is zero difference between the play before the half where Choice gave up 6 and this blunder by Roy Barron. Choice took his heat for one fumble. Roy appears to be making a career of failing hard in the clutch.

 

[sbark]

I remember the Iggles RB stopping on the 1 after a long gain, giving up an easy TD, just so the TEAM could run out the clock and control the end of the game.........

announcers didnt stop for a week applauding the intelligence of the move

If a rookie McCann can make a great smart play on a batted punt, you'd think a similar move by a 7 yr vet would enter his mind.......

heck, Roy doesnt even have a TD dance ready to go.........

 

[tyke1doe]

He should be fuming he didnt call 1 run play to get in a little close for the field goal in my opinion, or fuming at Barber 4th and 1 trying to run wide like he has some wheels LOL. I knew that wasnt going anywhere.

Thank you.

You have two time outs in your pocket, and you force passes?

And I am really concerned about the Cowboys catering to Dez's emotions. Yes, he wants the ball. But if the game plan or coverage doesn't call for him to get the ball, we can't force it. And we can't let the fact that he's intense force us into getting him the ball when it's just not there.

 

[tyke1doe]

Ah someone who claims to know what Garrett thinks lol.

Did Roy cause all the other fumbles we had this game? Or make Gurode have about 3 bad snaps? Or make McBriar fumble the snap? Or take any of the ill timed penalties that we had?

He made a mistake.. just because it was at the end of the game doesn't mean its any better or worse than any of the other mistakes we made this game. Sloppy play all around.

Im sure Garrett is upset at Roy.. but certainly he's not the only one. The entire team is guilty of poor execution.

Good post.

While I'm upset with Roy, Dallas still had a chance to win this game in the end. But being pass happy with less than two minutes and two time outs in our pocket was not the way to go. We should have bled the clock, caught the Saints off balance with a draw play and then taken a shot to the end zone for Dez.

Still, this was a positive step for the Cowboys even if they loss. Garrett has this team in the game until the bitter end.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Thank you.

You have two time outs in your pocket, and you force passes?

And I am really concerned about the Cowboys catering to Dez's emotions. Yes, he wants the ball. But if the game plan or coverage doesn't call for him to get the ball, we can't force it. And we can't let the fact that he's intense force us into getting him the ball when it's just not there.

I wouldn't say they cater to his emotions.. its not like after that little spat on the sideline they put him back in and sent the ball his way a bunch of times.

He's a great talent, and a playmaker and has an ego. Sometimes you have to calm guys down. Irvin was the same way. He went off at times, but he simply was great and made plays whenever the ball came his way. Dez is the same type of player.

 

[Chuck 54]

I can't believe you guys have a bigger problem with Roy's fumble than you do with the pathetic defense that let them go 90 yards in less than a minute.

Roy was looking at the one guy on the right and trying to set up the blocker so he could score...that's not an excuse, but he didn't see the guy coming...and it happens.

Our defense is pathetic though...today we had some decent pressure at times, but too often Brees had too much time and wasn't pressured off his spots...he threw some incredible passes.

I noted that we got a slight overthrow and an int on a play when Ware came up the middle and at least had a hand in the QB's face.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I truly find it amazing all the NFL talent that sits in their Barco-loungers and knows exactly what to do in every instance, and yet for some reason doesn't try-out or play for a professional football team.

What are the odds they would all meet on the same internet site?

I wish I knew someone in Vegas that could toss down the odds of that.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I truly find it amazing all the NFL talent that sits in their Barco-loungers and knows exactly what to do in every instance, and yet for some reason doesn't try-out or play for a professional football team.

What are the odds they would all meet on the same internet site?

I wish I knew someone in Vegas that could toss down the odds of that.

:laugh2:

 

[Bleu Star]

I truly find it amazing all the NFL talent that sits in their Barco-loungers and knows exactly what to do in every instance, and yet for some reason doesn't try-out or play for a professional football team.

If that was meant for me, you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Royal Laegotti]

I really appreciate the way you utilized incredible skill to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. That is all.

They taught us in Junior High to hold onto the ball with BOTH HANDS in traffic. These players have no concept or fear of losing the ball when they get in traffic, or they don't care. This is yet another fundamental thing that has cost us another game this year, it's part of the culture that Garrett has GOT to purge.

 

[TwoDeep3]

If that was meant for me, you have no idea what you're talking about.

You and others that are suggesting this was anything other than Jenkins making a terrific defensive play.

There are those that will watch a game, see breakdowns and understand it is a team sport with a pointy ball that bounces in crazy ways.

Then there are those who in their disappointment want to find a goat to supplant their emotions of sadness over something they cannot control.

By the way, I don't watch reality shows either.

 

[Bleu Star]

You and others that are suggesting this was anything other than Jenkins making a terrific defensive play.

There are those that will watch a game, see breakdowns and understand it is a team sport with a pointy ball that bounces in crazy ways.

Then there are those who in their disappointment want to find a goat to supplant their emotions of sadness over something they cannot control.

By the way, I don't watch reality shows either.

As stated, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Ball bounce crazy ways and balls are meant to be secured when obvious moments hit you squarely in the face. Regardless of the events that occurred leading up to Roy's blunder, if he secures the ball with both hands and goes down, there's a 99.9% chance that we get out of there with a win. I've played 5 years of football at the semi-pro level and know how difficult it is to accept when defeat is snatched from the jaws of victory. You have 53 hearts that beat as one between the lines. Along with that comes a faith that your fellow man has worked just as hard and wants it as much as you do. Tough luck for Roy but it's not the first time he crumbled in the crunch... He played very well today. That said, an NFL WR that has the ball and the game secured in his hands with a few minutes left in the game cups the ball as though his life depends on it. No question... He came up short yet again and the season's end can't come soon enough so I no longer have to see him at VR ever again. Screw jockeying for draft position. That's lame IMO. We still "had" an outside chance to make the playoffs.

 

[TwoDeep3]

As stated, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Ball bounce crazy ways and balls are meant to be secured when obvious moments hit you squarely in the face. Regardless of the events that occurred leading up to Roy's blunder, if he secures the ball with both hands and goes down, there's a 99.9% chance that we get out of there with a win. I've played 5 years of football at the semi-pro level and know how difficult it is to accept when defeat is snatched from the jaws of victory. You have 53 hearts that beat as one between the lines. Along with that comes a faith that your fellow man has worked just as hard and wants it as much as you do. Tough luck for Roy but it's not the first time he crumbled in the crunch... He played very well today. That said, an NFL WR that has the ball and the game secured in his hands with a few minutes left in the game cups the ball as though his life depends on it. No question... He came up short yet again and the season's end can't come soon enough so I no longer have to see him at VR ever again. Screw jockeying for draft position. That's lame IMO. We still "had" an outside chance to make the playoffs.

What makes your rant so hilarious is you assume something you cannot prove from your living room.

That Roy knew Jenkins was coming from behind.

Now think on this. Earlier he caught a pass and when in traffic had two hands on the ball. So he has demonstrated that he understands ball security, even in the same game we witnessed.

Then extrapolate that he moved the ball to his left arm to get it away from the defender he could see in front of him preparing to take the hit, before the strip.

It was a head's up play by Jenkins and all the whining in the world and tossing out blame will not change that good teams find ways to win over not so good teams.

I feel your disappointment, but your rationality here is missing. You assume things you cannot prove and continue an argument that feels more like a tantrum than rational debate.

We all wanted to win that game but sometimes the defense makes a better play.

Roy was not careless. Roy was trying his best to gain as much as he could for his team. Just like Choice.

And in both cases it was a better play by the defender.

 

[Bleu Star]

What makes your rant so hilarious is you assume something you cannot prove from your living room.

That Roy knew Jenkins was coming from behind.

Now think on this. Earlier he caught a pass and when in traffic had two hands on the ball. So he has demonstrated that he understands ball security, even in the same game we witnessed.

Then extrapolate that he moved the ball to his left arm to get it away from the defender he could see in front of him preparing to take the hit, before the strip.

It was a head's up play by Jenkins and all the whining in the world and tossing out blame will not change that good teams find ways to win over not so good teams.

I feel your disappointment, but your rationality here is missing. You assume things you cannot prove and continue an argument that feels more like a tantrum than rational debate.

We all wanted to win that game but sometimes the defense makes a better play.

Roy was not careless. Roy was trying his best to gain as much as he could for his team. Just like Choice.

And in both cases it was a better play by the defender.

The only thing I assume is that you cup the ball with two hands when you immediately find yourself in a situation where you have significantly increased your team's chance to win the game. That's it. Period. Done deal. (also pretty much elementary to a player at the NFL level)

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Thank you Mr Edwards. That sums it up perfectly.

Actually, judging by some of these posts, it seems we play for moral victories now.

Words cannot express how much that depresses me.

 

[Bleu Star]

Actually, judging by some of these posts, it seems we play for moral victories now.

Words cannot express how much that depresses me.

I noticed that angle too dude and I am equally disappointed by some of these perceived moral victories. Oh how far this mighty franchise has fallen...

 

[Apollo Creed]

Roy was stripped in a similar fashion last year in Green Bay.

Can't blame him, dude doesn't get loose in space or behind the defense very often so he doesn't know how to protect the football.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

I noticed that angle too dude and I am equally disappointed by some of these perceived moral victories. Oh how far this mighty franchise has fallen...

It's almost as if we're supposed to believe poor Roy is just a victim of circumstance.

Look. As a UT grad, I was Roy Williams' most stalwart defender on this board. I have a Roy Williams jersey. No one was happier than I when Jerry traded for him -- despite the lofty price tag. But he quite literally had the victory in his hands, and he dropped it. And it's a recurring pattern.

Winning and losing is not entirely the product of luck as some might want you to believe. The Patriots haven't won at least ten games in nine straight seasons solely because they're lucky.