That was a nice play

[LittleBoyBlue]

Anyone see that play that the Chargers used....

Rivers hands off to LaDanian and the RB throws a TD as the D starts to play the run. I like it.

 

[Doomsday101]

Anyone see that play that the Chargers used....

Rivers hands off to LaDanian and the RB throws a TD as the D starts to play the run. I like it.

Halfback pass I like it and wish we did that more often. It always suprised me that Emmitt never did it much considering how aggressive teams would come up to the line of scrimmage when he had the ball.

 

[Hostile]

It's called the halfback option pass and it's been around forever. Dan Reeves was great at it back in the day. Maybe the best ever was Walter Payton.

 

[Hostile]

Halfback pass I like it and wish we did that more often. It always suprised me that Emmitt never did it much considering how aggressive teams would come up to the line of scrimmage when he had the ball.

Emmitt did it once in his career, sadly as a Cardinal.

 

[austintodallas]

Anyone see that play that the Chargers used....

Rivers hands off to LaDanian and the RB throws a TD as the D starts to play the run. I like it.

You can't seriously be unfamiliar with that play. Please tell me you're joking.

 

[2much2soon]

Minny ran it yesterday too, for a TD. Not often you see 2 on the same day.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

You can't seriously be unfamiliar with that play. Please tell me you're joking.

Yes I am serious.
No I was not joking.

How about contributing a post instead of that B/S. :bastid:

Obviously it is not used all that often... if ya read this thread.

 

[superpunk]

I think Tomlinson did that like 4 times last year alone. If you're preparing against SD, you have to know that's a possibility.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Yes I am serious.
No I was not joking.

How about contributing a post instead of that B/S. :bastid:

Obviously it is not used all that often... if ya read this thread.

I bet you went buck wild when they do a flea flicker play.

Hmm...I wonder what you would do with a Statue of Liberty play.

/ Just goofing with you. It really is shocking for someone not have seen or know what a half-back option play is though.

 

[austintodallas]

It really is shocking for someone not have seen or know what a half-back option play is though.

Thank you.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I bet you went buck wild when they do a flea flicker play.

Hmm...I wonder what you would do with a Statue of Liberty play.

/ Just goofing with you. It really is shocking for someone not have seen or know what a half-back option play is though.

Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you... I will be here all week.

 

[thekavorka]

Who would you guys rather have at qb?

LT or Bledsoe? I'm going with LT

 

[Jarv]

I bet you went buck wild when they do a flea flicker play.

Hmm...I wonder what you would do with a Statue of Liberty play.

/ Just goofing with you. It really is shocking for someone not have seen or know what a half-back option play is though.

I don't think I've ever seen one (Statue of Liberty) in pro-ball.

Backyard games and HS once...lol...Brain, you ever see it in the NFL ?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Halfback pass I like it and wish we did that more often. It always suprised me that Emmitt never did it much considering how aggressive teams would come up to the line of scrimmage when he had the ball.

Might have been because of the size of the shoulder Pads Emmitt used. As I recall, he used extra padding. It's pretty hard to get the shoulder up and rotated properly when you have overly large pads on. Don't know this to be a fact but could be why he didn't do it more.

Of course, the answer may be as simple as the obviouse. When the other team can't stop the run, can't stop the pass, no need for gadgetry.

 

[Doomsday101]

Might have been because of the size of the shoulder Pads Emmitt used. As I recall, he used extra padding. It's pretty hard to get the shoulder up and rotated properly when you have overly large pads on. Don't know this to be a fact but could be why he didn't do it more.

Of course, the answer may be as simple as the obviouse. When the other team can't stop the run, can't stop the pass, no need for gadgetry.

True Dallas did not need to run gadgets back then to put points on the board. I just always felt the play was there for the taking if we wanted it yet never did.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I don't think I've ever seen one (Statue of Liberty) in pro-ball.

Backyard games and HS once...lol...Brain, you ever see it in the NFL ?

I saw it done one time in St. Louis with Jim Hart and Mel Gray in the early 70s.

 

[thekavorka]

one of the best plays i've seen is the original fumblerooski

Tom Osbourne has massive balls to be able to run that play in the Orange Bowl

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I saw that highlight last night and thought how ridiculoulsly easy L.T. made that look. It made me think that other teams should use that play more often.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

one of the best plays i've seen is the original fumblerooski

Tom Osbourne has massive balls to be able to run that play in the Orange Bowl

Houston Nutt at Arkansas has run a couple of trick plays this year that were great. They disguised them so well.

Those are always fun to watch unless they are against your team.

 

[dwmyers]

Yes I am serious.
No I was not joking.

How about contributing a post instead of that B/S. :bastid:

Obviously it is not used all that often... if ya read this thread.

Considering that in the old single wing, just about every runner could pass (and did), the play is as old as football.

The modern version was popularized by Vince Lombardi when he was offensive cordinator for the New York Football Giants. It's *the* classic counter to a cornerback force against the old Lombardi Sweep.

Frank Gifford was good at it, as was Paul Hornung. Lombardi's halfbacks had to be able to throw the ball.

This is a quote from "Vince Lombardi on Football"

The halfback option began for me when I left West Point and joined the New York Giants as offensive coach under Jim Lee Howell back in 1954. Frank Gifford was with the Giants then and I remembered him from the Southern Cal-Army game because we played them in the mud at Yankee Stadium and he put on a great show.

But I had not seen much pro football while at West Point so that winter I studied game films of all the Giants' games and all other teams in the league to familize myself with every defense and offense. Watching Gifford, I remembered that fine day he had against us not only as a runner but as a fine passer. Since the Giants ran from the T formation and the halfback option is basically a single-wing play I had to figure out how we could use Gifford's tailback talents.

In the ensuing discussion, please realize the Giants were running a base 3 running back T formation at the time, not a split T.

The first thing I had to do was flank the right halfback (in this case Alex Webster). This gave me the necessary two receivers on the onside going downfield. But now I needed blocking since I was losing my right halfback as a blocker. So I pulled the two guards and either faked the fullback into the line or or sent him out ahead as a blocker. Later that right halfback became a flanker and the backfield had only two backs - the halfback and the fullback, which is today's standard pro set.

The later (split T) form of Lombardi's halfback pass option is shown below:

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David.