The 2 Pressing Needs at QB

[Staubacher]

1) An immediate backup for Romo that is better than the crud we had this year, and can come in and win.

2) A franchise QB of the future, to be groomed and ready in 1-3 years to have a long career behind center.

Ideally, these needs are met by the one guy.

But in reality, these are two separate issues that likely need to be addressed separately. I think many people are conflating the two.

The 4th pick in the draft should NOT be used on a back up; therefore, picking a QB here should only be done with a very high degree of confidence that this player is the long term solution at QB for the Cowboys. Whether he can come in and play in 2016 isn't even relevant (though it would be a huge bonus). So the question is simply - are either Goff or Lynch believed to be the long term answer at starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys? Enough so to pass on some extremely high quality players at other positions?

The backup issue for 2016 can be addressed in many ways - free agency, trade, later in draft, etc.

The franchise QB decision, as important as it is, can wait a year if there truly isn't THE GUY in the draft. And if you're going to roll the dice on someone in this draft, better to do it after Round 1.

What ultimately happens will depend on the due diligence of the front office. But ideally they are looking at the QB problem as two separate issues so as to avoid overreaching.

 

[RS12]

The 4th pick in the draft should NOT be used on a back up; therefore, picking a QB here should only be done with a very high degree of confidence that this player is the long term solution at QB for the Cowboys. Whether he can come in and play in 2016 isn't even relevant (though it would be a huge bonus). So the question is simply - are either Goff or Lynch believed to be the long term answer at starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys? Enough so to pass on some extremely high quality players at other positions?
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Yes, draft the board. This has been working in the first round for the most part. If the scouting dept says a QB is top of the board at pick 4, pull the trigger.

 

[AbeBeta]

Yes. So many teams have that! How do we not?

Truth is, there are few sure fire franchise QBs in any 10 year stretch. Last 10 years and the only lock I've seen is Andrew Luck. There is no lock at #4 overall.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

1) An immediate backup for Romo that is better than the crud we had this year, and can come in and win.

2) A franchise QB of the future, to be groomed and ready in 1-3 years to have a long career behind center.

Ideally, these needs are met by the one guy.

But in reality, these are two separate issues that likely need to be addressed separately. I think many people are conflating the two.

The 4th pick in the draft should NOT be used on a back up; therefore, picking a QB here should only be done with a very high degree of confidence that this player is the long term solution at QB for the Cowboys. Whether he can come in and play in 2016 isn't even relevant (though it would be a huge bonus). So the question is simply - are either Goff or Lynch believed to be the long term answer at starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys? Enough so to pass on some extremely high quality players at other positions?

The backup issue for 2016 can be addressed in many ways - free agency, trade, later in draft, etc.

The franchise QB decision, as important as it is, can wait a year if there truly isn't THE GUY in the draft. And if you're going to roll the dice on someone in this draft, better to do it after Round 1.

What ultimately happens will depend on the due diligence of the front office. But ideally they are looking at the QB problem as two separate issues so as to avoid overreaching.

Pretty sure the qb we might take at #4 will be the so called backup. You really think he will be the 3rd quarterback or be inactivce on game day? lol.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

If you take a QB at 4 he becomes your primary back up. Can't bury a 4th pick on the depth chart. And he will need the reps to help his progression.

 

[Alexander]

But in reality, these are two separate issues that likely need to be addressed separately. I think many people are conflating the two.

I don't think that is the case. I think most people would like the first rounder to be a QB and satisfy the need.

The thing is that I doubt the team views it that way. I think they prefer veteran than maybe the rookie and probably not a first rounder.

Thing is, this mythical veteran QB better than Weeden and Cassel is like a unicorn.

Are players like Drew Stanton, Matt Schaub, Chad Henne, Chase Daniel, Matt Moore, Luke McCown and Colt McCoy really upgrades?

Fitzpatrick, Bradford, Osweiler etc. are not going to take a backup role and/or money.

 

[noshame]

With this OL a solid draft pick can step in.(if needed) That said, we need a set of plays that fit his strengths and not try to cram him into a system where he does not fit.

 

[IrishAnto]

I don't think that is the case. I think most people would like the first rounder to be a QB and satisfy the need.

The thing is that I doubt the team views it that way. I think they prefer veteran than maybe the rookie and probably not a first rounder.

Thing is, this mythical veteran QB better than Weeden and Cassel is like a unicorn.

While it wouldn't stop me looking at veteran help, I think Kellen Moore has shown enough to be considered as the immediate backup for next year.

He knows the system and his cap hit would be small.

If Dez etc. were healthy I think he could hold the fort for a couple of games.

In that scenario I'd spend the top pick on a QB and let him learn behind Romo and Moore and next year elevate him to primary backup if he shows he's up to the job.

 

[Alexander]

While it wouldn't stop me looking at veteran help, I think Kellen Moore has shown enough to be considered as the immediate backup for next year.

If they enter the season with Kellen Moore as the #2 and don't draft a blue chip QB, we are basically in the same boat as we were this year.

 

[IrishAnto]

If they enter the season with Kellen Moore as the #2 and don't draft a blue chip QB, we are basically in the same boat as we were this year.

Agreed, which is why I said that in that particular scenario I would still pick a QB at 4.

If the rookie showed enough in his first year then promote him over Moore, if not then try again next year.

You could afford (cap wise) to keep Moore either way.

 

[KB1122]

Quarterback isn't a position where the round adjusts with the immediate need. Whether he is going to play now or three years from now, you want the most talent possible. So you draft one in the first, second at the latest.

 

[Bleu Star]

1) An immediate backup for Romo that is better than the crud we had this year, and can come in and win.

2) A franchise QB of the future, to be groomed and ready in 1-3 years to have a long career behind center.

Ideally, these needs are met by the one guy.

But in reality, these are two separate issues that likely need to be addressed separately. I think many people are conflating the two.

The 4th pick in the draft should NOT be used on a back up; therefore, picking a QB here should only be done with a very high degree of confidence that this player is the long term solution at QB for the Cowboys. Whether he can come in and play in 2016 isn't even relevant (though it would be a huge bonus). So the question is simply - are either Goff or Lynch believed to be the long term answer at starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys? Enough so to pass on some extremely high quality players at other positions?

The backup issue for 2016 can be addressed in many ways - free agency, trade, later in draft, etc.

The franchise QB decision, as important as it is, can wait a year if there truly isn't THE GUY in the draft. And if you're going to roll the dice on someone in this draft, better to do it after Round 1.

What ultimately happens will depend on the due diligence of the front office. But ideally they are looking at the QB problem as two separate issues so as to avoid overreaching.

Sounds like Jared. Smells like Goff.

 

[NEODOG]

That 4th pick, and is an immediate, impact STARTING position pick.

If we waste a 4th on a back up......... God save us all

 

[IrishAnto]

That 4th pick, and is an immediate, impact STARTING position pick.

If we waste a 4th on a back up......... God save us all

Only a backup in the medium - short term.

Hopefully this will be your Starting QB (and a good one at that).

 

[Alexander]

That 4th pick, and is an immediate, impact STARTING position pick.

If we waste a 4th on a back up......... God save us all

Okay, let's break this down.

Draft Bosa. Is he an immediate STARTING position pick? Not with what we have right now. Lawrence, Hardy and Gregory are ahead in the pecking order.

Draft Tunsil. Is he an immediate STARTING position pick? Not with what we have right now. Smith and Free are ahead in the pecking order.

Unless you are corner crazed and want to reach for Hargreaves or something, the way the roster is constructed does not lend itself to an immediate, impact STARTER.

The 2003 Bengals took Carson Palmer with the #1 overall and Jon Kitna started pretty much every game and put up over 3500 yards and 26 TDs.

That is what I would look at if they decide to take a QB with the 4th pick.

 

[phildadon86]

That 4th pick, and is an immediate, impact STARTING position pick.

If we waste a 4th on a back up......... God save us all

And if Romo goes down again next year, which is probable. Then you'll be saying, damn should have drafted a qb Las year

 

[Alexander]

And if Romo goes down again next year, which is probable. Then you'll be saying, damn should have drafted a qb Las year

But we need the immediate, impact STARTER. Like NOW.

This is a very crucial fork in the road for this franchise.

Drafting for that immediate need is hard to do with the QB position. Your whole team is usually bad when you draft this high and you intend for the QB to be the foundation.

This is a big opportunity that we are probably fortunate to get if you think the 4-12 was just the accumulation of a bunch of unfortunate events.

So you take that opportunity and plug in some player that can start because you are afraid of sitting another for a year or so?

 

[phildadon86]

But we need the immediate, impact STARTER. Like NOW.

Like you said previously. There are no immediate starting positions really available except SS, WR2, CB, and RB. Only players I'm taking over Goff/Lynch are Elliott Ramsey or Treadwell.

 

[Alexander]

Like you said previously. There are no immediate starting positions really available except SS, WR2, CB, and RB. Only players I'm taking over Goff/Lynch are Elliott Ramsey or Treadwell.

Sorry, don't need Elliott or Treadwell. NOT IMMEDIATE IMPACT STARTERS either.

So you are stuck with DB or bust. Guess that's how it has to be. Too bad if Ramsey might not the impact player some around here keep thinking he is. It fills that need I guess.

 

[csirl]

As things stand, we don't have a starting QB.

Can Romo play a full season? Unlikely.

With age, inability to practice and injury history, will Romo be able to play at a elite level on a week to week basis? Unlikely.

Whoever we draft will more than likely get the majority of offensive snaps in 2016. Ideally Romo starts the first couple of games and then reverts to a 'relief pitcher' type backup who can come in and play at times when the rookie struggles.