the aftermath analysis

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so we sit here at 5-1 with many fans disappointed we're not 6-0 and defeated the patriots. in retrospect, while beating the pats would have been fantastic, i think many of us knew we're not in that category just yet. we are, however, the only team to be ahead of the patriots in the 2nd half. usually when we hit our stride in the 2nd 1/2 is when we go crazy. we made a push in that direction but in the end, penalties killed us.

while it's in vogue for some to complain that the evil refs just love the pats, *we're* still committing these penalties and the refs are simply calling them. while going through newsgroups, i did see one poster actually say the holding call on kosier he TIVO'd 6 times and couldn't see where holding was justified. this is an example of blind homerism at it's fines. kosier had his man in a bear hug around the waiste and was bringin him down. it couldn't be more blatant if he wore an IM HOLDING sign. it's amazing what some people will let themselves see. this is not to say there were no questionable calls in the game, but it is to say the cowboys lost regardless and needs to work on their focus and quit hurting themselves on every good play.

that was the key to the game. too many times we had that special play to get us out of trouble and there would be a holding call, or a motion penalty and the like. ovecoming a team like the patriots is hard enough without havnig to overcome yourself as well.

last night we saw a team that has a legitimate shot at going 16-0 in the patriots. they are simply that good. why they would have ever felt the need to 'cheat' i may never understand. but tom brady has some legitimate weapons now in moss, welker and stallworth and hitting close to 80% completion rate. he's on pace to have one of the greatest qb seasons of all time.

and we've found out we've still got some work to do.

this after all is what the pats game really was. outside our conference so a loss isn't critical. small consolation, i know but it told us where we are overall. my biggest gripe is the patriots still throwing and brady still in so late in the game. the last td wasn't necessary but we kept calling time out, almost asking for it. in the end rest assured we're a good team. we faced the team of the decade and we did as much to hurt ourselves as they did to beat us but in the end, they did. whiners will sit and blame the refs or scream "bellicheat" as if anyone cares, but that won't fix this team.

so where do we go from here?

mental mistakes will be punished. you hold and get called for it, i see some windsprints in your future after practice. i see $500 going into a general fund with it going up $250 every time you do it again. use the $ to fund a kids football camp, charity, buy tickets for kids who can't otherwise go - put it to good use but penalize those who can't seem to stop committing penalties. but make these players think about somehow and ensure NOT making these mistakes is always on their mind.

let's do what we can to get free and martin some time. even more to mcquistian. flo is going to likely command high $ out there i'm not sold on him any longer. the OL has come a long way since the bledsoe days but run blocking needs to improve if we're to no longer be a 1-trick pony with romo.

with cleveland winning, the MOB (mcfadden or bust) crowd has gotten quiet. THANK GOD. not to say mcfadden isnt a good player but CB and WR are of bigger need and the cost keeps going up with every cleveland win. so we expand options and FINALLY can look at other players and potential without being MOBbed.

which brings up our secondary. one game againt someone like the pats doesn't tell the whole story but as long as a team is out there like the pats, we'd better do what we can to have a secondary second to none. watkins needs to step up or be victim to the fun 3 year plan and get him out of here. hamlin has been doing well for us and roy, well he will always be roy for the good and the bad of it.

nate jones is a 4th stringer and this is likely the best we can expect from him so he'll eventually fall away in roster churning. we need henry back and reeves still needs more time. thank god newman is back.

positives from the game:
ellis is back and his sack led to a TD which kept us in the game at the 1/2.
marion is showing he has the heart to pick up his teammates and he will slap down a stifarm w/o hesitation.
crayton continues to improve his game. an early on 1 handed try fell short of smart, but he recovered well for the day.
wittin will get involved sooner or later.
we're 5-1 baby. when the season started who'd NOT be happy to hear that would be our record?

negatives
run blocking needs some love and improvement
mental mistakes have GOT to be cut down
romo needs to quit making wittin so "obvious" a target.
secondary needs some help. even w/a good rush brady still picked it apart.

in all this game was a step forward, even in a loss. we have a much better idea of who we are and what we need to do to get it to the next level. doing it this year may or may not happen but after a decade of disappointment i still believe in this team. i see a lot of good memories on the road ahead and for the first time in an awful long time, post season talk isn't a pipe dream and we do have a team that can make some noise there.

you fall down when you grow up, that's a given. while we found out a lot about this team in a loss, we'll find out even more in how we play the vikings and that rookie they have that's tearing up the field.
 

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About Ellis: Seeing him playing OLB reminded me just how good Spencer looks. Simply put, Spencer is a better 3-4 OLB than Ellis, and I really don't want to see Ellis in that role at all this season. Now, Ellis looks pretty good down in the nickel defense, but playing zone coverage as an OLB, he looks ridiculous.

Wade should be smart enough to rectify this quickly. Hopefully he doesn't care that Ellis's feelings might get hurt.
 

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theogt;1711165 said:
About Ellis: Seeing him playing OLB reminded me just how good Spencer looks. Simply put, Spencer is a better 3-4 OLB than Ellis, and I really don't want to see Ellis in that role at all this season. Now, Ellis looks pretty good down in the nickel defense, but playing zone coverage as an OLB, he looks ridiculous.

Wade should be smart enough to rectify this quickly. Hopefully he doesn't care that Ellis's feelings might get hurt.

Having Ellis try to cover a slot receiver is comical on one level and incredibly stoopid at another.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1711188 said:
Having Ellis try to cover a slot receiver is comical on one level and incredibly stoopid at another.

there were a couple of 3rd and longs where i'd see ware go back into coverage. ?????

maybe someone can explain what the pats did that would put ware in the secondary vs. coming after the qb.
 

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iceberg;1711195 said:
there were a couple of 3rd and longs where i'd see ware go back into coverage. ?????

maybe someone can explain what the pats did that would put ware in the secondary vs. coming after the qb.
I think that was our biggest problem on 3rd downs. We brought the heat on 1st and 2nd downs and it got to Brady. He looked rattled. Then we'd just sit back and let him pick us a part on 3rd downs. If you've got 3rd and 7, I say, with the weapons we have in the front 7, you send everything you've got at him.
 

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theogt;1711202 said:
I think that was our biggest problem on 3rd downs. We brought the heat on 1st and 2nd downs and it got to Brady. He looked rattled. Then we'd just sit back and let him pick us a part on 3rd downs. If you've got 3rd and 7, I say, with the weapons we have in the front 7, you send everything you've got at him.

3rd down defense cost us the game. well, in my mind anyway. i think we let brady in our head and he had a field day.

we showed we could get to him and we quit it. again, ???
 

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This game gives me a lot of "what if's" to think about:

What if the Cowboys didn't get called for so many penalties?

Some were clearly deserved, but I saw a huge disparity in how the calls were made. None if your name's Owens or Fasano, but plenty if your name's Moss. Penalties probably weren't the difference, but the officials stood in the way of what should have been a great game.

What if the Cowboys had their full compliment of defensive backs? If Henry had played, it may have allowed the Cowboys to play better defensively. Having both Reeves and Jones out there was too tough to overcome, especially against the Patriots' weapons.

What if Terry Glenn was healthy for this matchup? The Patriots' defense was good, but was anyone overly impressed? I wasn't. Having a deep threat like Glenn could have made a big difference.

The Patriots won the game, but I'll be eager to see what happens if we were to see them again - hopefully with a full compliment of players.
 

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Good post. The secondary is what it is this year..those injuries will linger all season. Hope the unit can get healthy for the late part of the season, tough part of the schedule is coming up.

Liking the rotation for the DL & nickle at least.

Right now, going into a game before the bye, would be a great time really work on getting the running game going.
 

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iceberg;1711213 said:
3rd down defense cost us the game. well, in my mind anyway. i think we let brady in our head and he had a field day.

we showed we could get to him and we quit it. again, ???
He is who we thought he was. And we let him off the hook?
 

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Good post!

Someone had to lose. Brady drives the NE bus and he was near perfect. True, the Dallas pass defense didn't look very good but name one pass defense that has, so far, looked good playing against NE?

The good news is I don't think the NE offense can get any better. The even better news is that Dallas' defense has room for improvement.
 

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Ice:

I agree with you. I can tell you that for the first 2 hours and 50 minutes of the Bills game, I was way more frustrated at what I was looking. Yesterday, all the way through the first half of the third quarter I was thinking that the defense looked good (except for Nate jones which unfortunately was abused yesterday)and that It would be difficult to cut anyone on the front seven to make room for Tank Johnson.

I guess at the end I was wrong, but still believe we are not far away from being elite.....
 

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halcyon;1711291 said:
Ice:

I agree with you. I can tell you that for the first 2 hours and 50 minutes of the Bills game, I was way more frustrated at what I was looking. Yesterday, all the way through the first half of the third quarter I was thinking that the defense looked good (except for Nate jones which unfortunately was abused yesterday)and that It would be difficult to cut anyone on the front seven to make room for Tank Johnson.

I guess at the end I was wrong, but still believe we are not far away from being elite.....
i dont think we're far away at all.
i think we cut remi
and we go out and get another shut down corner somewhere.
give up clevelands 1st for larry fitzgerald
improve on julius
tweak the OL

and i think we'll be fine.
 

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theogt;1711202 said:
I think that was our biggest problem on 3rd downs. We brought the heat on 1st and 2nd downs and it got to Brady. He looked rattled. Then we'd just sit back and let him pick us a part on 3rd downs. If you've got 3rd and 7, I say, with the weapons we have in the front 7, you send everything you've got at him.

I found that very interesting.
They have a lot of dangerous WR's and a QB second to none at working against the blitz.
Coming into the game I'm thinking we should back off the blitz, too risky.
If anything save it for 3rd down when converting the first is the top priority and the chances Bradys looking for a big play are reduced.
1st and especially 2nd down, he's more likely looking to take a shot down field
Well we have all our success bringing pressure 1st and 2nd down and get killed on 3rd down sitting back....go figure!
 

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theogt;1711165 said:
About Ellis: Seeing him playing OLB reminded me just how good Spencer looks. Simply put, Spencer is a better 3-4 OLB than Ellis, and I really don't want to see Ellis in that role at all this season. Now, Ellis looks pretty good down in the nickel defense, but playing zone coverage as an OLB, he looks ridiculous.

Wade should be smart enough to rectify this quickly. Hopefully he doesn't care that Ellis's feelings might get hurt.

:hammer:


How many times did Wes Welker have to blow by Ellis across the middle yesterday for Wade to recognize it.

I have loved ALL the in game decisions by Wade and the entire staff but yesterday drove me nuts.

Ellis in coverage against Welker and then the FG attempt of 4th down.

Hopefully we just move on and learn from our mistakes.
 

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I honestly think the entire organization (except Barber) was scared of the pats in the 1st and 4th quarters.

Hopefully they will not be again.
 

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When the 9ers were the team to be the 9ers got a lot of respect from the officials. Dallas had to become the team to beat by beating the 9ers to get that kind of respect. Instead of complaining about the refs we have to hope Dallas will get better and eventually pound on teams like the Pats.

Until then it isn't going to happen. 12 penalties for 98 yardswill not make the officials give us any benefit of the doubt.
 

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zrinkill;1711696 said:
I honestly think the entire organization (except Barber) was scared of the pats in the 1st and 4th quarters.

Hopefully they will not be again.

good point. mentally we're still growing. this was just a growing pain, nothing more.

Joe a Cowboys fan;1711720 said:
When the 9ers were the team to be the 9ers got a lot of respect from the officials. Dallas had to become the team to beat by beating the 9ers to get that kind of respect. Instead of complaining about the refs we have to hope Dallas will get better and eventually pound on teams like the Pats.

Until then it isn't going to happen. 12 penalties for 98 yardswill not make the officials give us any benefit of the doubt.

thank you. did the pats get some of the calls their way? probably. intentional? i doubt it. but regardless of what they do *we* gave 100 yards to the best team in the NFL and you don't win like that.
 
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