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[The Panch]

Flair never left the business to look for his "Smile" because he couldn't get his way. Michaels has never been anything more than a glorified luchador who knew how to work the mic & did a bunch of unnecessary bumps because he was sub-par as a wrestler. You may as well be talking about a less mobile Mick Foley. Now go back to drooling over his issue of Playgirl.

rofl @ you catching female feelings like the fan boy you are.


http://www.youtube.com/v/BvTNyKIGXiI&hl=en&fs=1


Have you atleast lost some weight since then??

 

[Ultra Warrior]

Flair left companies, and took their World title with them, when he didn't like the way things were being done with him. Let me know the time Michael did that.

Flair left WCW & took the belt that BELONGED to him & he was well within his right to take it til WCW paid him the $25000 deposit he had to put down to even HAVE the belt. Michaels never left the company to go to another but he did have a knack for forfieting titles when he didn't want to JOB to someone.

Bret Hart went home and thought about retirement cause he lost the Ironman Match to HBK. He's cried for YEARS about how that match was put together only to make him look bad and it wasn't at all beneficial to him.

Bret was a Free Agent. He never thought about retirement as he was being persued by WCW to join them but he chose LOYALTY to the WWF & re-upped his contract with Vince that would keep him in the company for the next 20 years but Vince changed his mind after the fact. As for losing the Ironman match, storyline wise, it was BS to begin with. He has Michaels in the Sharpshooter ( that Michaels would have tapped out to like he had done many times before ) as time expired. They stop the match, let Bret walk almost all the way back to the dressing room & inform him to return to the ring for Sudden Death Overtime. There was no reason to STOP the match without a clear winner, the Overtime should have continued after regulation time expired. So in a sense ( storyline wise ) he got screwed over.

Yeah, Bret, one of the best matches ever, that everyone talks about, wasn't at all beneficial to you or your career.

This sentence makes no sense.

Hogan has made a career out of not going along with anything that wasn't good for him personally.

Hogan is a joke as well.

If you don't like people because they're greedy, or ego-driven at some point in their career, then there aren't a whole lot of wrestlers that main event that you've ever liked.

Not even a matter of that. Just don't think Michaels was that great.

 

[CATCH17]

Hogan is a joke as well huh?

Good grief man no wonder you seem so clueless. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Hogan is awesome. Im not even sure that his awesomness is an opinion. Its pretty much fact.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Flair left WCW & took the belt that BELONGED to him & he was well within his right to take it til WCW paid him the $25000 deposit he had to put down to even HAVE the belt. Michaels never left the company to go to another but he did have a knack for forfieting titles when he didn't want to JOB to someone.

They aren't required to give him that money back until he gives the belt back. How stupid would that be to give him the money while he's still got the belt? It would be idiotic. He'd have no reason to give the belt back then. Flair took the belt, and whined like that, cause he felt like whining about the way things were going. I don't begrudge him for that, he's still one of my all time favorites despite that, but it's not like he was a victim there.

And, yes, HBK got out of jobbing to Bret Hart, probably others, like about 95% of big time main event talent have done at some point or another. Hogan, Austin, Hart, Goldberg, Ultimate Warrior, Flair, and countless others have refused to put one person, or another, over during their time. It's pretty common.


Bret was a Free Agent. He never thought about retirement as he was being persued by WCW to join them but he chose LOYALTY to the WWF & re-upped his contract with Vince that would keep him in the company for the next 20 years but Vince changed his mind after the fact. As for losing the Ironman match, storyline wise, it was BS to begin with. He has Michaels in the Sharpshooter ( that Michaels would have tapped out to like he had done many times before ) as time expired. They stop the match, let Bret walk almost all the way back to the dressing room & inform him to return to the ring for Sudden Death Overtime. There was no reason to STOP the match without a clear winner, the Overtime should have continued after regulation time expired. So in a sense ( storyline wise ) he got screwed over.

Oh please. That's a convient excuse that he was a Free agent and it took him, what, 8 months to resign with the company? He left after Mania in march and didn't return until nearly survivor series. He was pissy about the way things went down with Michaels and didn't want to be there. Again I don't begrudge him that cause it's how he felt he should handle the situation. It just means he's exactly like most other stars of his stature in that business.


This sentence makes no sense.


What about it makes no sense? Bret has said, and been quoted, many times trying to claim that the Ironman Match wasn't at all beneficial to him. I'm mocking his BS by saying that because it's one of the most remembered, most talked about matches of his entire career. I'd say that makes it pretty darn beneficial to him, even though he chooses to minimize that because he's still butt hurt over the fact that he had to put over Michaels.

Something that goes back to well before their arguing began and goes back to Vince having Michaels do the first Ladder Match on live WWE shows, instead of Bret, even though Bret was the one that pitched the idea of a ladder match to him. He's always been really upset about that as well, probably more so after HBK and Ramon tore the house down, and stole the show, at WM 10 with their ladder match.


Hogan is a joke as well.


Yet one of the most over, most popular, most wealthy, most well known wrestlers on the planet. But, yeah, I'm sure that 'joke' makes him laugh all the way to the bank.


Not even a matter of that. Just don't think Michaels was that great.

Ok so it's just him doing it that bugs you. Ok, that's cool. It just seemed if those were your reasons for hating him you'd have to hate pretty every big time main eventer to ever come through the business cause the vast majority of them have had very similiar attitudes and ways of doing business. Some a little less, some even more extreme than Michaels.

 

[Aikmaniac]

I was impressed with Randy Orton at the end of the Raw. His speech was very heel-esque, however he looked like an idiot when he tried to react to the crowd. "Don't **** me off, you don't wanna get me ****ed off." He was very articulate and did a good job of putting himself over up to that point.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I was impressed with Randy Orton at the end of the Raw. His speech was very heel-esque, however he looked like an idiot when he tried to react to the crowd. "Don't piss me off, you don't wanna get me pissed off." He was very articulate and did a good job of putting himself over up to that point.

I agree. It's one of his better promos in a while.

 

[zeromaster]

This thread has clarified so much...

 

[Ultra Warrior]

This thread has clarified so much...

Only that a real life Cartoon character with barely any wrestling ability like Hogan can be called Great because he made money & that a balding wannabe Male Stripper is the "Showstopper" because HE said so.

 

[Rampage]

Only that a real life Cartoon character with barely any wrestling ability like Hogan can be called Great because he made money & that a balding wannabe Male Stripper is the "Showstopper" because HE said so.

oh snap!

 

[kmp77]

I agree. It's one of his better promos in a while.

He was HORRIBLE when he first started on the mic...HORRRRIBBBLEEE. Last night showed he's come a long way.

 

[Rampage]

He was HORRIBLE when he first started on the mic...HORRRRIBBBLEEE. Last night showed he's come a long way.

we'll he still is pretty bad on the mic one of the best wrestlers in the bizz.