The case against and for the Cowboys winning the East

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  1. SlammedZero

    SlammedZero Well-Known Member

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    Should be an interesting year. I could see Dallas and Eagles duking it out for that 1st place spot. Washington, even with Wentz, I just don't see the threat. Giants have Daniel Jones. They aren't winning anything with him behind center.

    With that said, anything is possible. We've seen surprising teams come out of nowhere in the NFL before.
     
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  2. Flamma

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    Yeah, I'm just trying to make some excuse to elevate the other teams. It's not easy to say why they should or could win the division without reaching a little.
     
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  3. KJJ

    KJJ You Have an Axe to Grind

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    The Cowboys haven’t made the playoffs in back-to-back seasons since 06 and 07. Every playoff season since has led to missing the playoffs the following year. We can’t seem to put good seasons together. Our disappointing playoff performances result in coming back flat the following season. As disappointing as the playoff loss was to San Francisco it could lead to us coming back as flat as a pancake in 2023. The Cowboys were not a good football team the second half of last season. With Philly on the rise at the end of last season and the Cowboys fading along with having a bad offseason it’s hard to be encouraged about the upcoming season.
     
  4. cowboyec

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    we are the better team with the better qb and the better head coach.
    nothing has changed.
     
  5. 75boyz

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    Yep. The replacements for the losses still haven't convinced me of a net gain from last year either.

    So basically hoping a weak division hasn't closed the gap/passed them up on the field.

    The Jones hope strategy imo.
     
  6. Jarv

    Jarv Loud pipes saves lives.

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    What does Vegas say? They are the ones with the real skin in the game.
     
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  7. TheMarathonContinues

    TheMarathonContinues Well-Known Member

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    The only way a non-Cowboy team wins the NFC East is if the Cowboys struggle. They have the best defense and best quarterback and defense in the division. Until the teams narrow that gap I can't say those teams really have a shot unless its a down year where 8 wins the division.
     
  8. TheMarathonContinues

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    In order for the Cowboys not to get better that would mean that guys like Micah and Diggs don't get better. Or that Lamb regresses.

    If this team gives Pollard more touches and all of their young players continue to improve then that alone will improve this team.
     
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  9. jazzcat22

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    I have that opinion for every team in each division. Unless you lose some very top talent. As when Brady went to TB, I went with Buffalo to win the division.
    The incumbent’s are the favorites until they lose. :laugh:
     
  10. TheCritic

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    I think we finish 8-8 and 2nd or 3rd in the NFC East
     
  11. Miller

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    Every year it seems 50% of the year befores playoff teams change. I think there was a stat on that. I don’t believe our East comp will stay bad so I still have us favored but would not be surprised at one of the 3 making a competitive jump. I honestly can’t guess which either. Still think we are class of East but we need to take advantage of it!
     
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  12. nobody

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    Given how each roster changes every season and the chemistry changes on top of injuries throughout the year and other factors, I view each season as in it's own sandbox (At least in the NFC East). Seemingly gone are the days of one NFC East constantly dominating a division every year....but it's still possible. There's no team to beat because they all start the season 0-0. They might have very slight higher or lower chances to win it, but if the Cowboys only have a one or two percent higher chance than everyone else, does that make them the team to beat? Not really and it's not that easy.

    That being said, while the Cowboys might not be as good this year as last (at least on paper), they might be better or still dominate the division. I like their chances even if they are hamstrung by certain things.
     
  13. Aerolithe_Lion

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    The only real hypotheticals we can build right now are plugging in new pieces based on last year.

    Dallas did not have a 1st place schedule in 2021. Take the 11-5 season and add Green Bay and Los Angeles as opponents. Do they still win 11 games? Do they even win 10?

    I think this is the biggest factor as to why no East team has repeated in 17 years: this means the team that won the division in any given year was saved from playing a first place schedule. It’s only a 2 game difference, but the division title is rarely more than 2 games of separation from second place.

    Now consider Washington in that same concept: they lost 10 games last year, no one is really seeing them as a threat. But remove that first place schedule, take away Tampa and LAR and suddenly 7-10 starts creeping toward 9-8. They upgraded their QB position (how much exactly will be a 2022 mystery), and I do think it’s a 3-team race.
     
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  14. nobody

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    It's funny how we all discount the Giants for now.
     
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  15. Aerolithe_Lion

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    I think sticking with Jones was a big mistake, they’re going to be paying for Gettleman’s errors for a few years yet.
     
  16. Jake

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    Dallas could repeat but it won't be as easy as last season. Even so, they went nowhere in the playoffs and do not appear to have improved this offseason.

    We'll see.
     
  17. Flamma

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    Jones is on the last year of his rookie deal, and they declined his 5th year option. He was probably playing this year whether or not they picked up a QB. What was weird is that they didn't even consider one of the rookies.

    I can understand them not picking one on picks 5 and 7. Even pick 43. Then pick 67 goes by. Why not take a stab at one at pick 81? The only QBs off the board were Pickett and Ridder.
     
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  18. nobody

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    Maybe they have their eye on someone in the next draft?
     
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  19. Flamma

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    That's a very good point. So they may have though it would be a waste to pick a QB at 81. I just think at pick 81 it wouldn't be a waste, considering their QB situation. They're not risking much, nor are they paying him much. They could still try to get the QB they have their eye on next year as well. Obviously they disagree.
     
  20. ChronicCowboy

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    I think injuries will likely determine the division winner. Both teams are neck and neck on paper.

    If all teams stay relatively healthy, I think it will probably end up in a tiebreaker.

    Dallas - 10-7
    Philly - 10-7
    Wash - 8-9
    NY - 6-11
     
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