The clamouring for backup QB myth?

[Stash]

Although, I think, the fact that we went with Joe freaking Randle and DMC, which I think was a reckless and irresposible thing to do, and the fact I think we were going back to putting "more" on Romo because of it.....

I agree. 100%. This team is the same team from those 8-8 seasons. And that has been the most disappointing thing this year. I thought we had a fundamental change last year. That if Romo went down, we could carry on as a franchise and find a way to keep up. Thats what good franchises do. But its more then just that.,.....Its an attitude, a toughness, i am not atriculating it very well......but, I see those pitiful 8-8 teams written all over this team. And I am a little surprised. And disappointed.

I think this season bears it out even further. Other than a close game against Seattle - who look far different now than the team we played then - the only games we've been competitive in were against weak to middling competition anyway. People want to simply point to Romo's injury as the sole reason, but that's overly simplistic and lazy.

Even the games where this team had a chance to win were against some I've the weakest in the league. The NFC LEast speaks for itself. Not one team in this division is good. But teams like Atlanta, New Orleans, and Tampa Bay have shown themselves to be mediocre at best, bad at worst. But yet some fans want to consider being competitive against those teams without Romo some sort of moral victory. The truth is that it's just further support of the case that this is a middle of the road team that can compete against other middle of the road teams.

But when it comes to playing against a playoff contender, the true deficiencies are clear.

 

[Stash]

Let's pre-face this one thing 1st:
#9 gives us the best chance to win... PERIOD

All this talk from all about finding a competent back-up QB..... Is really not the answer. The REAL equation should be finding a workhorse RB for this team.

2014 is all everyone needs to see: We were able to pretty much keep #9 gunslingers mentality in check, for the most part, due to our prolific running ability. His best year:
TD/INT ratio
Completion %
Attempts
QB rating
Etc.
Think about that..... We ran to keep #9 from throwing all over the damn place. Least we all forget his games where we were left wondering WTH? Maddening decisions, ill-advised decisions that left us thinking exactly: "WHERE DOES THIS COME FROM?" See his 5/7 td/INT this year? Points & sounds a lot like other 8-8 years to me.
Now, again, not a slam against #9.....but I know myself & more than a few(mods included) , we're screaming "throw the damn ball away" in that Packer playoff game last year. He will hold it until there's a point of no return on consequences. But, all that.... Is moot with our RUNNING game going.

We need to get our running game back, if there's any chance of a SB with #9 at QB

NOW, if there is a chance of winning without #9 at QB..... Then by all means that back-up position is vitally important

I'm not following your specific point here.

Are you trying to say that we don't need a capable QB behind Romo?

Because the best running game in the world won't cover for the completely subpar play we're getting with Romo out if the lineup and to simply hope he remains healthy next season is as foolish as making that mistake has proven to be this year.

 

[robjay04]

the defense don't need the offense, they can help themselves by holding the opposing teams to 3 and outs and getting off the field.

Well that is realistic.

 

[KJJ]

The Cowboys had a RB that was a perfect fit and allowed him to leave and that decision contributed to an awful season that's left questions about the future. Just imagine had Jerry decided to allow Emmitt to walk back in 93 the Cowboys would have never won back to back SB's and 3 championships in 4 years earning the Cowboys team of the decade honors. Despite his great OL he realized the first 2 games of the 93 season that the back matters and decided to pay Emmitt. There was a 9 year gap between Emmitt and Murray with several misfires in between. The Cowboys are in a position right now where they not only have to think about attaining a quality lead back and a solid backup QB they can win games with but a replacement for Romo who may only have 2 more good seasons left IF he can stay healthy. Once he's done 4-6 wins may be the norm when you look at all the needs this team has including the need for a quality head coach.

What the Cowboys are going through is very reminiscent of what we saw in 2010. They had a surprising 11-5 season the year before that led to a playoff win and the roof caved in the following year due to the team falling for all the SB hype and Romo going down which led to a miserable season followed by three 500 seasons. When you look at the lack of talent/playmakers on defense and an aging Romo coming off a couple of collarbone injuries in the span of 2 weeks it makes it difficult to get excited about the future. We could very well be staring at another lengthy drought the next several years especially if Romo continues to miss games due to injury. When an aging player starts suffering repeated injuries decline usually isn't far behind. There's concerns about the defense, RB, WR and at backup QB. What we saw last season was a fluke the team was unable to validate a solid 2014 season.

This will be the 4th season in Garrett's 5 year tenure as the HC that the Cowboys will miss the playoffs with a none winning season and 2015 will be his first losing season. Even with Romo this looked like the teams the Cowboys went 8-8 with not having a consistent running game and Romo having to try and bail the team out. This season didn't surprise me check my archives i knew when Murray left there would be a trickle down effect that would impact Romo and leave the defense on the field too long. We saw many of the same issues this season that we saw during the 8-8 seasons but we had Romo during those seasons to squeeze out 8 wins each year.

 

[NEODOG]

I'm not following your specific point here.

Are you trying to say that we don't need a capable QB behind Romo?

Because the best running game in the world won't cover for the completely subpar play we're getting with Romo out if the lineup and to simply hope he remains healthy next season is as foolish as making that mistake has proven to be this year.

I'm saying that all those wanting that capable back up, as much merit it states this year.......isn't clearly the reason. No matter how #9 plays, having that ground game produced a record other than 8-8

 

[Stash]

I'm saying that all those wanting that capable back up, as much merit it states this year.......isn't clearly the reason.

Really? Have you not seen the numbers being put up by what this team has put out there at quarterback? None of them played particularly well, Romo included! But the dreck behind his hasn't even been up to the level of being called capable. This team has been absolutely hamstrung by its' quarterback play. It hasn't been the sole reason for this nightmare season, but it's been a huge one. If they play it the same way next year, they can expect similar results.

No matter how #9 plays, having that ground game produced a record other than 8-8

I don't dispute that, but I think it's folly to not do what you can to improve the quarterback position, both now and for the future.

 

[dallasdave]

I'm not following your specific point here.

Are you trying to say that we don't need a capable QB behind Romo?

Because the best running game in the world won't cover for the completely subpar play we're getting with Romo out if the lineup and to simply hope he remains healthy next season is as foolish as making that mistake has proven to be this year.

That's get a good back up QB for 2016, Romo is not getting any younger !!!

 

[Apollo Creed]

I'm not saying your premise is necessarily wrong but it feels like a passive aggressive post to me. Those stats came frome somebody - arm, pre snap read, decision making and execution. They didn't come from a running back. The throw in Seattle didn't come from a running back nor did the move on JJ Watt. In fact I don't remember that many throws that were maddening last year or at least any more than any of the other really good QB's. He was efficient and effective - more so than Rodgers and no QB in the history of the game that led in those categories has ever not won the MVP. I'm not sure what was so awful - maybe the mods can remind us.

Is he better with a running game? Absolutey. Draft a running back in the first round? I'm not so sure.

As far as this year four of those picks came after he tried to come back where he admitted he wasn't right and not seeing the field so that's an over reaction.

Running game combined with a better scheme will have us back in the mix next year because #9 (that's Tony Romo) will make everybody better.

Subtract that 49ers game where he was playing at maybe 50% - he would've had 34 TDs and 6 interceptions, 75% completion percentage and a 121 QB Rating.

He had the best season in NFL QB history and no one even considered him for MVP.

 

[NEODOG]

Really? Have you not seen the numbers being put up by what this team has put out there at quarterback? None of them played particularly well, Romo included! But the dreck behind his hasn't even been up to the level of being called capable. This team has been absolutely hamstrung by its' quarterback play. It hasn't been the sole reason for this nightmare season, but it's been a huge one. If they play it the same way next year, they can expect similar results.



I don't dispute that, but I think it's folly to not do what you can to improve the quarterback position, both now and for the future.

With the up coming draft.... Rds 1-3 Are you willing to take the QB or RB?
I'd take the RB 100 out 100
Undrafted or late rounds Qb's - trade for QB or sign free agent?

Where is a QB that can carry this team without the RB game we need? If Romo couldn't do it? Then how can we expect a different QB to make this mess work?
The NFCE is as putrid as can be this year..... A capable back up most likely, at least, keeps in the race..... But I'm not sure, with as mentioned :scheme & play calling. If we run, the results are proven here..... Just look at 3rd down this vs last year to see

 

[JoeKing]

Finding a quality B/U QB and a workhorse RB are not mutually exclusive endeavors. We can do both. One through the draft and the other through free agency is the way to go. I would much rather see another quality QB on the roster though. Romo is getting longer in the tooth than most folks care to realize. I would go so far as to say he will never play a complete season again.

 

[Stash]

With the up coming draft.... Rds 1-3 Are you willing to take the QB or RB?
I'd take the RB 100 out 100
Undrafted or late rounds Qb's - trade for QB or sign free agent?

If we're talking about "Rds 1-3", that means 3 draft picks, right?

If so, we can easily fill the two big needs at both QB and RB, can't we? And we can draft based on talent and not be locked into a position as well.

Where is a QB that can carry this team without the RB game we need? If Romo couldn't do it? Then how can we expect a different QB to make this mess work?

He's certainly not on this roster today, but there's a possibility that one of the guys in this upcoming draft might. At least they haven't already proven to be incapable.

The NFCE is as putrid as can be this year..... A capable back up most likely, at least, keeps in the race..... But I'm not sure, with as mentioned :scheme & play calling. If we run, the results are proven here..... Just look at 3rd down this vs last year to see

I would think we could get at least a few more wins with capable play at quarterback, yes.

As to the rest, again I'm not sure what you're trying to say?

 

[robjay04]

CB, WR and LB will be a bigger need than RB going into the offseason.

We have a top 10 rushing unit with average backs as it is and free agency will have several decent options. Doug Free and Lamar Miller both come to mind. I would like to see a free agency acquisition, a mid round draft pick and let McFadden, Dunbar and Turbin battle it out for the 3rd spot.

Just because our RB situation is not what we envisioned does not mean we dismiss the logic that a RB can not be found with later draft picks.

 

[CF74]

Let's pre-face this one thing 1st:
#9 gives us the best chance to win... PERIOD

All this talk from all about finding a competent back-up QB..... Is really not the answer. The REAL equation should be finding a workhorse RB for this team.

2014 is all everyone needs to see: We were able to pretty much keep #9 gunslingers mentality in check, for the most part, due to our prolific running ability. His best year:
TD/INT ratio
Completion %
Attempts
QB rating
Etc.
Think about that..... We ran to keep #9 from throwing all over the damn place. Least we all forget his games where we were left wondering WTH? Maddening decisions, ill-advised decisions that left us thinking exactly: "WHERE DOES THIS COME FROM?" See his 5/7 td/INT this year? Points & sounds a lot like other 8-8 years to me.
Now, again, not a slam against #9.....but I know myself & more than a few(mods included) , we're screaming "throw the damn ball away" in that Packer playoff game last year. He will hold it until there's a point of no return on consequences. But, all that.... Is moot with our RUNNING game going.

We need to get our running game back, if there's any chance of a SB with #9 at QB

NOW, if there is a chance of winning without #9 at QB..... Then by all means that back-up position is vitally important

Welcome to The Romozone lol

 

[Craig]

The only myth i saw in that initial post is romo's "gunslinger mentality".

 

[Beast_from_East]

Seems like a veiled shot at Romo by the OP, might be wrong, but that is the vibe I am getting.

Pointing to his TD/INT ratio?

Without Romo, this offense cannot make a first down and posters are pissing and moaning about his numbers?

LOL

 

[NEODOG]

Seems like a veiled shot at Romo by the OP, might be wrong, but that is the vibe I am getting.

Pointing to his TD/INT ratio?

Without Romo, this offense cannot make a first down and posters are pissing and moaning about his numbers?

LOL

SMH

 

[NEODOG]

The only myth i saw in that initial post is romo's "gunslinger mentality".

I will believe Coach Parcells over all else