The consequences of the 2024 off-season

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I have never seen a stranger buildup to a season than our FO had in 2024. And the reverberations continue today.

Last off-season was a complete kamikaze mission where the FO sat on their hands while losing key personnel, way overpaid for their QB with a growing injury history, wasted months not signing their star WR they KNEW they were going to sign. All the while keeping a lame duck HC who captained the worst home playoff loss in team history….because the richest owner in sports is too cheap to not pay off the last year of his HCs contract.

Before the flak comes flying, let me explain why this matters now: The consequences of those horrible decisions take more than a year to recover from.

What are those “bad decisions” where the consequences still remain?

  • Keeping Mike McCarthy after that embarrassing home playoff loss to GB. Jerry should have fired him immediately and recognized that 2024 would be a reset/rebuild. Should have hired a new HC and we would already have a head start on 2025 with a new staff we have a year with.
  • By not firing McCarthy, the team was faced with a season with a lame duck HC with an expiring contract. That almost never works in the NFL. We saw this bad decision with keeping Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett one more year because of their contracts not being “up” yet. Just stupid.
  • Using 4th round picks to acquire Trey Lance in 2023, and Jonathan Mingo in 2024 were big setbacks to the 2024 and 2025 drafts. When we needed a RB it would have helped to have those 4th round picks.
  • The Mike Zimmer Experiment failed, making our young defensive players in 2025 have their third DC in 5 seasons. Now they have to learn from the 4th DC we’ve had since 2020.
  • If 2024 was supposed to be a reset for the cap, why did they resign Dak for a ridiculously over priced contract? Why keep a decent but aging QB who has struggled in bigger games? The list of QBs who get better as they age is very short.
  • The 2024 season could have been a well designed plan to tank in 2024, and rebuild, get a better 2025 draft position, maybe even angle for the #1 pick in 2026 for the Arch Manning sweepstakes, or some other young emerging QB.
By throwing away what 2024 could have been, it sets you back at least a couple of years because you cannot completely replenish your roster only with draft picks. This organization has made it crystal clear they will not commit much cap space on free agents. Yes they have made some trades and a few low rent FA signings.

So when I take off the blue colored fan glasses, it’s hard to look at this team, now helmed by a first year head coach who according to Ian Rappoport, is one of the 3 lowest paid HCs in the NFL (His salary as far as I can tell is not public yet) and a roster that still has huge holes at DT, RB and perhaps others.

Does it mean 2025 is already a bust? No. It can be a year of major improvement. But to make the playoffs and make some noise while in it will require a major help from Lady Luck and the good ol’ policy of “Hope as a strategy.”

The 2025 season can still be lots of fun. But the really bad decisions of 2024 may slow this team’s development.
 
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I have never seen a stranger buildup to a season than our FO had in 2024. And the reverberations continue today.

Last off-season a complete kamikaze mission where the FO sat on their hands while losing key personnel, way overpaid for their QB with a growing injury history, wasted months not signing their star WR they KNEW they were going to sign. All the while keeping a lame duck HC who captained the worst home playoff loss in team history….because the richest owner in sports is too cheap to not pay off the last year of his HCs contract.

Before the flak comes flying, let me explain why this matters now: The consequences of those horrible decisions take more than a year to recover from.

What are those “bad decisions” where the consequences still remain?

  • Keeping Mike McCarthy after that embarrassing home playoff loss to GB. Jerry should have fired him immediately and recognized that 2024 would be a reset/rebuild. Should have hired a new HC and we would already have a head start on 2025 with a new staff we have a year with.
  • By not firing McCarthy, the team was faced with a season with a lame duck HC with an expiring contract. That almost never works in the NFL. We saw this bad decision with keeping Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett one more year because of their contracts not being “up” yet. Just stupid.
  • Using 4th round picks to acquire Trey Lance in 2023, and Jonathan Mingo in 2024 were big setbacks to the 2024 and 2025 drafts. When we needed a RB it would have helped to have those 4th round picks.
  • The Mike Zimmer Experiment failed, making our young defensive players in 2025 have their third DC in 5 seasons. Now they have to learn from the 4th DC we’ve had since 2020.
  • If 2024 was supposed to be a reset for the cap, why did they resign Dak for a ridiculously over priced contract? Why keep a decent but aging QB who has struggled in bigger games? The list of QBs who get better as they age is very short.
  • The 2024 season could have been a well designed plan to tank in 2024, and rebuild, get a better 2025 draft position, maybe even angle for the #1 pick in 2026 for the Arch Manning sweepstakes, or some other young emerging QB.
By throwing away what 2024 could have been, it sets you back at least a couple of years because you cannot completely replenish your roster only with draft picks. This organization has made it crystal clear they will not commit much cap space on free agents. Yes they have made some trades and a few low rent FA signings.

So when I take off the blue colored fan glasses, it’s hard to look at this team, now helmed by a first year head coach who according to Ian Rappoport, is one of the 3 lowest paid HCs in the NFL (His salary as far as I can tell is not public yet) and a roster that still has huge holes at DT, RB and perhaps others.

Does it mean 2025 is already a bust? No. It can be a year of major improvement. But to make the playoffs and make some noise while in it will require a major help from Lady Luck and the good ol’ policy of “Hope as a strategy.”

The 2025 season can still be lots of fun. But the really bad decisions of 2024 may slow this team’s development.
I came to the same realization…they did so much damage in the 2024 offseason that they’ve made it impossible to get back to winning even with a solid offseason. This just feels like a year to build on to the future….while wasting a prime year of our core.
Only thing I’ll disagree with is I don’t think Zimmer was an experiment. He was a placeholder until they fired Mike.
 
I came to the same realization…they did so much damage in the 2024 offseason that they’ve made it impossible to get back to winning even with a solid offseason. This just feels like a year to build on to the future….while wasting a prime year of our core.
Only thing I’ll disagree with is I don’t think Zimmer was an experiment. He was a placeholder until they fired Mike.
I actually agree with your assessment of what Zimmer was last year.
 
McCarthy should have been fired after the Green Bay loss in the playoffs. It’s rare to see a head coach fired after a playoff loss, but after that embarrassing debacle, he should have been canned the very next day. We lost several players in free agency and only signed maybe a couple of free agents including Zeke who was washed up. The loss of players really hurt our depth which made a very difficult once we started suffering injuries.
 
I'd give a little more time to the mingo trade, if he becomes the bonafied 3 this year then we'll worth the 3rd round pick.

He only had a handful of games last year and with no offseason we still dont know what we are going to get - have to give him this full off season amd this year before we can assess if thay was a bad move.

Lance unfortunately was a bad move
 
I actually agree with your assessment of what Zimmer was last year.
I disagree you guys are close,

but Zimmer may have been a placeholder, but they didn't plan to fire Mike, mike fired himself by looking lost to start the first half of the year total misuse of the roster IMHO..

But back to Mike Zimmer ,

literally had no chance, Almost all the injuries were devastating on that side of the ball, and it was his first offseason in a change from another defensive coordinators scheme, that's tough, I don't think any defensive coordinator pick out the best one to ever live on this earth could have done anything last year in that same situation...

You guys are using hindsight to plug a narrative in because we already see how terrible it was and now you can say it was some kind of plan and blame it all on the offseason.. I don't see it that way...


Yes, the offseason was bad, but don't say they set him up to fail on purpose, why would you pay Prescott and Lamb if you planned a tank or plan to have a bad year??​
if you didn't want the coach why to pay him another year?? Why bother ??​
That doesn't make any sense and I use common sense as the base for any debate why would you do what little you did do but paying some of your superstars Max money and bringing in a coach that was making around $6 million.... Why even bother bringing him back if you set him up to technically fail on purpose like it was a plan....​
I say that's not true and Mike had a shot and he blew it he could have kept his job had he done better with the offense especially because he's basically the head coach and the offensive coordinator and I saw a major misuse of what talent was there I mean at the end of the year they finished stronger if you were in pre-season you should have come out of the offseason in preseason with a plan to do what you did at the end of the season right from game one you should have known who you're running back was going to be and that was Rico if you can't judge talent then I'm sorry that's what got you fired not the bad offseason to help..​
You may think Jerry meddles and he made mike use certain players,​
no he didn't, not in games, if mikes a lame duck and he knows he's getting fired why not just throw caution in the wind and you bench the people even if Jerry hits or at least in furs he'd like to see them play more no he you should know who your better talented players are like Rico, hunter , and Turpin Could have been utilized a lot better he should have known what his offensive line looked like coming out of all the practices leading up to game one and maybe the first couple of games it shouldn't have took till mid-season to realize you needed to make changes along the offensive line again mike's fault...​
why is it that we all can come to some sort of agreement that a lot of players in contract years have their best years? why not rhe coaches?​
by the way didn't Garrett in his lame duck year win 12 games?​
The Dallas Cowboys' record in the 2014 NFL season was 12 wins and 4 losses. They finished first in the NFC East division and made it to the playoffs, where they won against the Detroit Lions in the Wild Card round but were defeated by the Green Bay Packers in the Divisional round, according to Wikipedia. The team had an 8-0 record on the road that season.​
I'd say that's a pretty damn good lame duck year...​
Simply, MM didnt take advantage, got fired..​
I Still believe Jerry believed that Mike Mccarthy could do something like that, and just didn't get it done ,sure the offseason didn't give him any leg up, that's for sure..​
however, Jerry also couldn't predict all the injuries. I mean let's be honest here the reason we only won seven games last year was mostly due to injuries i'm going to stand by that there's no way we don't win at least two to three more games with Prescott playing the entire year regardless of how he started I believe we would have finished better.​
And no, I get it that's not good enough .even if we'd have got a wild card or won 10 games and missed the playoffs and whatever because of the playoffs failures, but let's just stop with the 2024 was bad mostly because of the offseason, no it was bad because Mike Mccarthy didn't coach well and a bunch of injuries it is what it is..​
 
I'd give a little more time to the mingo trade, if he becomes the bonafied 3 this year then we'll worth the 3rd round pick.

He only had a handful of games last year and with no offseason we still dont know what we are going to get - have to give him this full off season amd this year before we can assess if thay was a bad move.

Lance unfortunately was a bad move
The strangest part of the Mingo trade was the timing. In the middle of a bad season where the team is going nowhere, you trade a 4th round pick for a backup WR? It makes no sense to me.

Maybe Mingo turns into something more than your 4th receiver option. But even if he’s the third option, was a 4th round pick worth that? There’s no way. And…if they really thought Mingo was going to be something special, why trade for Pickens?
 
  • If 2024 was supposed to be a reset for the cap, why did they resign Dak for a ridiculously over priced contract? Why keep a decent but aging QB who has struggled in bigger games? The list of QBs who get better as they age is very short.
I think only fans believed that 2024 was supposed to be a cap reset. I think Jerry viewed his "all in" comment all along as focusing on paying Dak and Lamb contracts that were among the top at their position. He may have truly believed that all we needed to win was those core players and it didn't really matter what we had around them. Who needs a quality No. 2 receiver when you have Lamb? Who needs much of a running game when you have Dak and Lamb?
 
I'd give a little more time to the mingo trade, if he becomes the bonafied 3 this year then we'll worth the 3rd round pick.

He only had a handful of games last year and with no offseason we still dont know what we are going to get - have to give him this full off season amd this year before we can assess if thay was a bad move.

Lance unfortunately was a bad move
Unless they push him to WR3 to save face from what everybody saw as an awful trade, I don't see him getting looks ahead of Tolbert and even Turpin et al..Blue, etc
 
I think only fans believed that 2024 was supposed to be a cap reset. I think Jerry viewed his "all in" comment all along as focusing on paying Dak and Lamb contracts that were among the top at their position. He may have truly believed that all we needed to win was those core players and it didn't really matter what we had around them. Who needs a quality No. 2 receiver when you have Lamb? Who needs much of a running game when you have Dak and Lamb?
Whatever it was I know he didn't do it on purpose they didn't plan to be bad and couldn't plan on all the injuries that was a record amount of injuries just like 2020 Injuries were the biggest factor and losing your starting quarterback is why you only won seven games yes the offseason was sad it wasn't good at all And you're probably right he probably felt like he did do just enough and I don't think he playing on Mike Mccarthy failing that hard and especially didn't think Mike Zimmer was gonna fail that hard and most of the injuries was on the Defensive side it was ridiculous amount of injury...

But yes, I can agree the 2024 offseason was terrible but I don't think it was a plan to be bad... Did it set us back I don't know i'm thinking they should have got a running back in the 2024 or the 2025 draft in the top three rounds or brought over a better one but outside of that I don't think anything done last year was going to change our record because of the injuries especially again when you lose your starting quarterback for most of the season it's all but over for most teams...
 
The strangest part of the Mingo trade was the timing. In the middle of a bad season where the team is going nowhere, you trade a 4th round pick for a backup WR? It makes no sense to me.

Maybe Mingo turns into something more than your 4th receiver option. But even if he’s the third option, was a 4th round pick worth that? There’s no way. And…if they really thought Mingo was going to be something special, why trade for Pickens?
Well for once, I can agree with that, I will be fully agreement of the statements to be true, because a player like him not worth anything but maybe a 6, but he probably would have been cut and a free agent this offseason anyway, for 2025, there was no good reason for that move..

I can understand why they went and wanted to try out quarterback of the future types, So I can't blame them with Trey Lance and Milton but yes, a total head scratcher with Mingo..

Let's be honest here though, there's no way Jerry Jones was sitting there at his desk one day and said you know what I'm going to go get Mingo.. I there's no way you're going to sit here and convince me that a coach of some sort on the team or a scout or will Mcclay saw that they might need some wide receiver help and this is the name they brought up, there's no way Jerry said, i'm going to get me some Mingo today..lol

Yes, the trade values on him that's all on the GM and the owner on what you would give for a player but but that not the player he woke up one day thinking he needed somebody got in his ear...
 
Unless they push him to WR3 to save face from what everybody saw as an awful trade, I don't see him getting looks ahead of Tolbert and even Turpin et al..Blue, etc
I disagree , he was getting a lot of looks and praise in the OTAs, and I firmly belive they are going to give him a shot to compete

You guys act like hes been on the team for a long time, he was a mid y3ar addition last year with a backup qb starting, he is firmly still in the evaluation period
 
I have never seen a stranger buildup to a season than our FO had in 2024. And the reverberations continue today.

Last off-season was a complete kamikaze mission where the FO sat on their hands while losing key personnel, way overpaid for their QB with a growing injury history, wasted months not signing their star WR they KNEW they were going to sign. All the while keeping a lame duck HC who captained the worst home playoff loss in team history….because the richest owner in sports is too cheap to not pay off the last year of his HCs contract.

Before the flak comes flying, let me explain why this matters now: The consequences of those horrible decisions take more than a year to recover from.

What are those “bad decisions” where the consequences still remain?

  • Keeping Mike McCarthy after that embarrassing home playoff loss to GB. Jerry should have fired him immediately and recognized that 2024 would be a reset/rebuild. Should have hired a new HC and we would already have a head start on 2025 with a new staff we have a year with.
  • By not firing McCarthy, the team was faced with a season with a lame duck HC with an expiring contract. That almost never works in the NFL. We saw this bad decision with keeping Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett one more year because of their contracts not being “up” yet. Just stupid.
  • Using 4th round picks to acquire Trey Lance in 2023, and Jonathan Mingo in 2024 were big setbacks to the 2024 and 2025 drafts. When we needed a RB it would have helped to have those 4th round picks.
  • The Mike Zimmer Experiment failed, making our young defensive players in 2025 have their third DC in 5 seasons. Now they have to learn from the 4th DC we’ve had since 2020.
  • If 2024 was supposed to be a reset for the cap, why did they resign Dak for a ridiculously over priced contract? Why keep a decent but aging QB who has struggled in bigger games? The list of QBs who get better as they age is very short.
  • The 2024 season could have been a well designed plan to tank in 2024, and rebuild, get a better 2025 draft position, maybe even angle for the #1 pick in 2026 for the Arch Manning sweepstakes, or some other young emerging QB.
By throwing away what 2024 could have been, it sets you back at least a couple of years because you cannot completely replenish your roster only with draft picks. This organization has made it crystal clear they will not commit much cap space on free agents. Yes they have made some trades and a few low rent FA signings.

So when I take off the blue colored fan glasses, it’s hard to look at this team, now helmed by a first year head coach who according to Ian Rappoport, is one of the 3 lowest paid HCs in the NFL (His salary as far as I can tell is not public yet) and a roster that still has huge holes at DT, RB and perhaps others.

Does it mean 2025 is already a bust? No. It can be a year of major improvement. But to make the playoffs and make some noise while in it will require a major help from Lady Luck and the good ol’ policy of “Hope as a strategy.”

The 2025 season can still be lots of fun. But the really bad decisions of 2024 may slow this team’s development.
If there is some sort of actual plan it’s extremely unclear and/or not a very good one.

You get absolutely demolished in embarrassing fashion at home in a playoff game you were favored in, literally cry, then issue a public written statement claiming that you’re “close,” implying that they know they aren’t quite good enough, then proceed to do absolutely nothing to get better.

None of us can figure out what that was about, but the best guess is Jerry taking his ball and going home like a child, and the kid isn’t gonna exactly argue about being cheap.

What happens now? They suddenly want to win? Great, but it’s not a one year fix, it’s two minimum…then tell me where you are at QB when that time arrives.

Repeat first paragraph.
 
I have never seen a stranger buildup to a season than our FO had in 2024. And the reverberations continue today.

Last off-season was a complete kamikaze mission where the FO sat on their hands while losing key personnel, way overpaid for their QB with a growing injury history, wasted months not signing their star WR they KNEW they were going to sign. All the while keeping a lame duck HC who captained the worst home playoff loss in team history….because the richest owner in sports is too cheap to not pay off the last year of his HCs contract.

Before the flak comes flying, let me explain why this matters now: The consequences of those horrible decisions take more than a year to recover from.

What are those “bad decisions” where the consequences still remain?

  • Keeping Mike McCarthy after that embarrassing home playoff loss to GB. Jerry should have fired him immediately and recognized that 2024 would be a reset/rebuild. Should have hired a new HC and we would already have a head start on 2025 with a new staff we have a year with.
  • By not firing McCarthy, the team was faced with a season with a lame duck HC with an expiring contract. That almost never works in the NFL. We saw this bad decision with keeping Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett one more year because of their contracts not being “up” yet. Just stupid.
  • Using 4th round picks to acquire Trey Lance in 2023, and Jonathan Mingo in 2024 were big setbacks to the 2024 and 2025 drafts. When we needed a RB it would have helped to have those 4th round picks.
  • The Mike Zimmer Experiment failed, making our young defensive players in 2025 have their third DC in 5 seasons. Now they have to learn from the 4th DC we’ve had since 2020.
  • If 2024 was supposed to be a reset for the cap, why did they resign Dak for a ridiculously over priced contract? Why keep a decent but aging QB who has struggled in bigger games? The list of QBs who get better as they age is very short.
  • The 2024 season could have been a well designed plan to tank in 2024, and rebuild, get a better 2025 draft position, maybe even angle for the #1 pick in 2026 for the Arch Manning sweepstakes, or some other young emerging QB.
By throwing away what 2024 could have been, it sets you back at least a couple of years because you cannot completely replenish your roster only with draft picks. This organization has made it crystal clear they will not commit much cap space on free agents. Yes they have made some trades and a few low rent FA signings.

So when I take off the blue colored fan glasses, it’s hard to look at this team, now helmed by a first year head coach who according to Ian Rappoport, is one of the 3 lowest paid HCs in the NFL (His salary as far as I can tell is not public yet) and a roster that still has huge holes at DT, RB and perhaps others.

Does it mean 2025 is already a bust? No. It can be a year of major improvement. But to make the playoffs and make some noise while in it will require a major help from Lady Luck and the good ol’ policy of “Hope as a strategy.”

The 2025 season can still be lots of fun. But the really bad decisions of 2024 may slow this team’s development.
In short.

Jerry purposely didnt fire Mike after that GB game and gave him nothing to work with.

Jerry is a petulant child. The fans are not his concern.
 
If there is some sort of actual plan it’s extremely unclear and/or not a very good one.

You get absolutely demolished in embarrassing fashion at home in a playoff game you were favored in, literally cry, then issue a public written statement claiming that you’re “close,” implying that they know they aren’t quite good enough, then proceed to do absolutely nothing to get better.

None of us can figure out what that was about, but the best guess is Jerry taking his ball and going home like a child, and the kid isn’t gonna exactly argue about being cheap.

What happens now? They suddenly want to win? Great, but it’s not a one year fix, it’s two minimum…then tell me where you are at QB when that time arrives.

Repeat first paragraph.
Well said. The plan is whatever the clothes-less emperor says it is at the annual “state of the Cowboys” sell job press conference we get every July to start camp.

Here are some actual Jerry Jones quotes from the pre-TC presser he held last year:
  • There’s almost no way to segment parts of the running and the evolving of the team from one year to the next.” (Is there another GM in pro sports who would make this statement? It’s like admitting he doesn’t know what he’s doing)
  • I’m all in. Sometimes being all in means you narrow. You remove the months out here that are in the future. And you narrow it down to where all we’re talking about is right now and the next playoff season. And that’s it for everybody. We’re all in. We’re all in.” (Makes zero sense. Ze-ro.)
  • What do we have 14 Pro Bowlers," Jones rhetorically asked his PR director next to him. "And 12 All-Pros. We have an outstanding team." (Three of those All Pros he crowed about are currently either retired or unsigned by any other team - Zeke, ZackMartin and Eric Kendricks)
Every single season he sells his team as “outstanding”.
 
I have never seen a stranger buildup to a season than our FO had in 2024. And the reverberations continue today.

Last off-season was a complete kamikaze mission where the FO sat on their hands while losing key personnel, way overpaid for their QB with a growing injury history, wasted months not signing their star WR they KNEW they were going to sign. All the while keeping a lame duck HC who captained the worst home playoff loss in team history….because the richest owner in sports is too cheap to not pay off the last year of his HCs contract.

Before the flak comes flying, let me explain why this matters now: The consequences of those horrible decisions take more than a year to recover from.

What are those “bad decisions” where the consequences still remain?

  • Keeping Mike McCarthy after that embarrassing home playoff loss to GB. Jerry should have fired him immediately and recognized that 2024 would be a reset/rebuild. Should have hired a new HC and we would already have a head start on 2025 with a new staff we have a year with.
  • By not firing McCarthy, the team was faced with a season with a lame duck HC with an expiring contract. That almost never works in the NFL. We saw this bad decision with keeping Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett one more year because of their contracts not being “up” yet. Just stupid.
  • Using 4th round picks to acquire Trey Lance in 2023, and Jonathan Mingo in 2024 were big setbacks to the 2024 and 2025 drafts. When we needed a RB it would have helped to have those 4th round picks.
  • The Mike Zimmer Experiment failed, making our young defensive players in 2025 have their third DC in 5 seasons. Now they have to learn from the 4th DC we’ve had since 2020.
  • If 2024 was supposed to be a reset for the cap, why did they resign Dak for a ridiculously over priced contract? Why keep a decent but aging QB who has struggled in bigger games? The list of QBs who get better as they age is very short.
  • The 2024 season could have been a well designed plan to tank in 2024, and rebuild, get a better 2025 draft position, maybe even angle for the #1 pick in 2026 for the Arch Manning sweepstakes, or some other young emerging QB.
By throwing away what 2024 could have been, it sets you back at least a couple of years because you cannot completely replenish your roster only with draft picks. This organization has made it crystal clear they will not commit much cap space on free agents. Yes they have made some trades and a few low rent FA signings.

So when I take off the blue colored fan glasses, it’s hard to look at this team, now helmed by a first year head coach who according to Ian Rappoport, is one of the 3 lowest paid HCs in the NFL (His salary as far as I can tell is not public yet) and a roster that still has huge holes at DT, RB and perhaps others.

Does it mean 2025 is already a bust? No. It can be a year of major improvement. But to make the playoffs and make some noise while in it will require a major help from Lady Luck and the good ol’ policy of “Hope as a strategy.”

The 2025 season can still be lots of fun. But the really bad decisions of 2024 may slow this team’s development.
For all the reasons above, I am fairly dissallusioned with this team.
I still care about the Cowboys, but not near as much as I used too.
I am at the point that I know we are never going to compete for a Chip with the current Front Office.
So, I will watch games when it's conveinent, and chat on this board, but not buying Merch and not sacrificing
to watch games.
 

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