The Cowboys’ dominant roster was sculpted from Dallas’ dynastic past

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I was in the let murray go camp because I did not trust him in the big game.
Just did not think he could take us all the way, but 90% of the way.
Would rather not make the playoffs than lose early in the playoffs


I can respect that. I just really liked Murray. His play and his he carried himself and all that. Also like keeping homegrown drafted talent, and the message it sends. I'm one of the fans that really grows attached to players. Also while I she'd like allocating the money to Hardy (at the time) backdoorig that with a big Crawford deal felt disrespectful
 

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I can respect that. I just really liked Murray. His play and his he carried himself and all that. Also like keeping homegrown drafted talent, and the message it sends. I'm one of the fans that really grows attached to players. Also while I she'd like allocating the money to Hardy (at the time) backdoorig that with a big Crawford deal felt disrespectful

Murray was a great Cowboy.
But you know what else I am going to say...

If Hardy played up to his ability AND Randy did not totally flake or get hurt AND Romo did not get hurt, 2015 could have been the year...
 

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Murray was a great Cowboy.
But you know what else I am going to say...

If Hardy played up to his ability AND Randy did not totally flake or get hurt AND Romo did not get hurt, 2015 could have been the year...

For sure. And it might be framing the narrative, but having Murray back there blocking I feel like Romo doesn't get hurt. Oh well. We are where we are and I'm happy.
 

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Just like the team of the 90's, the areas of strength for this team was never planned. The GM and coach never sat down and came up with the idea of building a dominant offensive line backed by an elite RB. It was never planned in the 90's and it wasn't planned now.

Jimmy Johnson never wanted Emmitt Smith, Johnson was all about speed on both sides of the ball. However, an old scout talked him into it after his choice, LB James Francis was taken before the Cowboys could choose.

And when it became time to talk about contracts in 1993 Jerry Jones got stubborn, saying, "Emmitt Smith is a luxury, not a necessity." So, even after winning their first Super Bowl Jerry never saw Emmitt as a critical cog and so Emmitt sat out the first two games in 1993, which the Cowboys lost.

That offensive line was half there before Jerry and Jimmy ever showed up. Kevin Gogan, Nate Newton, and Mark Tuinei, all future Pro Bowlers, had been playing for the Cowboys three to five years before Emmitt was drafted.

Half of today's offensive line is made up of the guys drafted as a consolation after not getting the guys they really wanted. They wanted defensive guys but the ones they wanted were gone so they "reached" and took Fredericks. Jerry pouted for years after being talked out of Manziel despite their choice, Zach Martin making All Pro his rookie season.

And once again, the RB was disrespected, run out of town with a low ball offer that was later sweetened but the damage had been done. All we heard was how unimportant the RB position was in the pass happy NFL We were told any RB could run behind that line. Taking Elliott was an admission that they had stumbled, yes stumbled, onto an interesting phenomenon. In this pass happy environment, defenses were being built to stop the pass to the detriment of defending the unfashionable running attack. Against a real physical ground game NFL defenses would fatigue and fade.

What Cowboy management has done is recognize this phenomenon and increased the physical aspect by drafting Zeke. There is nothing wrong with that but they have certainly not made an effort to emulate the 90's team.

The current team management has done better than that. They are emulating the teams of the 70's, develop a specific philosophy and draft players that fit their system with attributes that help to make them great team players. I give that credit specifically to Jason Garrett with critical support from Stephen Jones.

In Jerry's world the QB would be Manziel, the RB would be Randle and the team success would mirror the current status of these two guys....gone....lost......but, hey, they would have a great receiver....occasionally.....

They drafted 3 OL in the first round and a RB at #4. How is that not "planned"?
 

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They drafted 3 OL in the first round and a RB at #4. How is that not "planned"?

I am a big fan of the FO in the last few years.
Even I would say a lot of luck and circumstance went into that.

On Zeke at #4, they get full credit and it was clearly premeditated.
 

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Right. The mistake wasn't not matching Phillys offer, it was in letting it get to that point
Yep. Letting Murray go was a mistake. We lucked out on getting Zeke and Dak. Wasted last year but it helped us get to this year. lol
 

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One of the primary architects of the roster - McClay - may be in the crosshairs of a glamorous team in need of a GM.
49er's Trent Balke is on the hot seat
one of my worries for sure. Jerry is good at making folks feel at home
and paying the bill
 

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This is an interesting angle on why an how we got here. The joy is back in Cowboy land.
Joy is back.
So true, aquatic man.
Dear fellow, it occurs to me that Mondays at the public service detail, is much brighter now.
I recall younger days, in SoCal and N. New Mexico.Cowboys losses on a Monday morning, among haters of the Cowboys. Terrible days amid Philistines who hated Democracy and Freedom.
Now, limeys of the gridiron, we are joyful AND Talking Super Bowl!
 

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Jimmy gets credit for building a great team and he hit some HRs for sure, but they also had 3 #1 overall draft picks and ended up with Troy, Steve Walsh and Russell Maryland....pretty underwhelming

The Herschel trade hid a lot of misses and like you said, sometimes be thankful for unanswered prayers...Emmitt could have been Blair Thomas and Johnny Football could be our problem and not CLE's mistake

Letting Murray go was a huge mistake but if it led to Zeke and Dak then the ends justify the means

Yet how many HOF players were drafted under Jimmy versus (5 years in Dallas and 3.5 years in Miami) how many were drafted in more than twice that time by Jerry since he left?
 

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Yet how many HOF players were drafted under Jimmy versus (5 years in Dallas and 3.5 years in Miami) how many were drafted in more than twice that time by Jerry since he left?
Under Jimmy the Cowboys drafted Troy Aikman and Emmitt Smith.
Since Jimmy the Cowboys drafted Larry Allen but there are more to come. At least Ware and JWit.
 

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Oh good grief. You don't give elite RB money to a non-elite RB.
except he is elite and the money was not elite money......besides that you are spot on.......you just have a gigantic blind spot

Zeke will be lucky to catch him this year and Zeke is awesome

the formula is draft well and re-sign your core.........he was a big part of the core and we paid a huge price to replace him.......Zeke will cost 6/45m and the 4th overall.......worth it but so was Murray
 

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Under Jimmy the Cowboys drafted Troy Aikman and Emmitt Smith.
Since Jimmy the Cowboys drafted Larry Allen but there are more to come. At least Ware and JWit.

Darren Woodson is under consideration right now. You also forget Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas from Miami who like Witten and Ware will also be HOFers.

Even if Jerry equals the number of HOFers in more than twice the time, there is still the matter of the 3 SB rings and a team considered one of the greatest dynasties in NFL history.
 

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They drafted 3 OL in the first round and a RB at #4. How is that not "planned"?

Are you under the impression that they walked into the draft dead set on taking Fredericks and Martin and none other?

Would they have taken Zeke if the Cowboys had not drafted the two previously mentioned linemen?

When you plan something, it means your intentions are already set before the plan is set in motion. You have a predetermined strategy. For example, when a woman plans a wedding, the elements of that plan are set in motion before that day arrives. She doesn't wait until her and the groom are standing in front of the preacher to decide on the flavor of the wedding cake.
 

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Simply typing "wrong" doesn't prove anything. The Eagles overpayed Murray for his value, and that's been proven by his lack of production there and the fact that he's not even on that team anymore. Jerry made the right choice by letting Murray walk.
 

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Why would Jerry Jones do that? Jerry Jones is the GM and architect, no?
I dont follow you. McClay is a serious piece to the success of the current Cowboys?
Why wouldn't he make every attempt to keep McClay in the fold?
 
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