The Cowboys are $54M over the cap?

It is true that the cap can be manipulated but it means seeing the same faces years from now. 2032 Dak's been out of football for 4 years but still counts 80 mil against the cap due to "void years" as an example.
 
Killerinstinct said:
It is true that the cap can be manipulated but it means seeing the same faces years from now. 2032 Dak's been out of football for 4 years but still counts 80 mil against the cap due to "void years" as an example.
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Dude the the Eagles are poster Childs for boy years they have the most money pushed out The Cowboys have way less than that but people around here keep saying they should do more of that be like the Eagles now you're complaining that they may possibly have to keep up with the Joneses pun intended they literally all teams do this They're running up credit cards they're getting other credit cards to pay for credit cards they're using credit card checks to pay credit card bills blah blah blah yes circumventing the cap it's not a new thing we're all very aware of it...

When this season started the Cowboys were right in the middle of void year use the Eagles were number one and there wasn't even anyone half as close..

Robbing Peter to pay Paul is a normal thing in a capped league maybe they ought to remove the cap..

They're the only truly hard capped league that I know of I mean baseball doesn't really have a cap does it NBA has a soft cap that you can circumvent with luxury taxes and all that other stuff I don't know what the NHL does but really I mean all these damn owners are now multi billionaires I tell Jerry Jones is like 7th in his net worth compared to the rest of the league he's not even number one so everyone wanting parity it has arrived and that ship has sailed..

I don't see how the league hasn't looked into this anyway if they're going to allow teams to keep pushing money down the road and take advantage of fake void years and be paying all this dead cap money..

just get rid of the cap already....
 
blueblood70 said:
Dude the the Eagles are poster Childs for boy years they have the most money pushed out The Cowboys have way less than that but people around here keep saying they should do more of that be like the Eagles now you're complaining that they may possibly have to keep up with the Joneses pun intended they literally all teams do this They're running up credit cards they're getting other credit cards to pay for credit cards they're using credit card checks to pay credit card bills blah blah blah yes circumventing the cap it's not a new thing we're all very aware of it...

When this season started the Cowboys were right in the middle of void year use the Eagles were number one and there wasn't even anyone half as close..

Robbing Peter to pay Paul is a normal thing in a capped league maybe they ought to remove the cap..

They're the only truly hard capped league that I know of I mean baseball doesn't really have a cap does it NBA has a soft cap that you can circumvent with luxury taxes and all that other stuff I don't know what the NHL does but really I mean all these damn owners are now multi billionaires I tell Jerry Jones is like 7th in his net worth compared to the rest of the league he's not even number one so everyone wanting parity it has arrived and that ship has sailed..

I don't see how the league hasn't looked into this anyway if they're going to allow teams to keep pushing money down the road and take advantage of fake void years and be paying all this dead cap money..

just get rid of the cap already....
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Maybe the Eagles roster has players worthy of that strategy and it has produced results but I don't see too many of this roster worth pushing money into future years for.
 
We will see a bunch of restructures to free up that CAP space. Hopefully not Dak though. His CAP number next year is about $74 million. But he is also getting older. I would not push more of his contract out into voidable year if I could avoid it. Keep in mind the 2026 CAP numbers do not include Pickens on a franchise tag but that would be another $28 million.

Still, they can get everyone under the CAP but I don't see them signing any big contracts again next year. BTW, they will have $16 million in dead money from Zack Martin's contract. This is why pushing bonus into voidable years is a bad idea. It just puts the problem in a different year but it is still a problem.
 
Killerinstinct said:
Maybe the Eagles roster has players worthy of that strategy and it has produced results but I don't see too many of this roster worth pushing money into future years for.
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Stop backtracking, It is what it is all teams do it, I don't want to hear how the Eagles, it's worth doing no all teams do it so get over it dallas does it not to even close to the extent the Eagles do it I just said they were in the middle of the pack but all teams do it let me repeat all teams do it stop trying to be that person who is a know it all and now you're trying to give the Dallas Cowboys advice on how to run How much are they worth again 10 billion..

Is it a mom and pop fishing store they don't sell lures and fish bait and if you need a bag of eyes or a T-shirt this is a $10 billion franchise with 1200 employees Yes that accounts to players but they have so many layers of management to handle this stuff they don't need your advice OK i'm just saying this is the new norm this is what all teams do...

gave you my opinion maybe they need to remove the cap. So many teams are doing it now how does a cap even working?.

This isn't up to date but it's close. Your theory how do you explain all those other teams who are not winning that are ahead of the Cowboys?

When I saw this last offseason the predictions was the Cowboys were right in the middle it looks like their 8th on this particular list but look at who's up there new Orleans Cleveland hey if you want to even get more deep into this the two teams that spent the most on their defense that had the most money on their defense was like the Giants and some other team both don't have very good defenses so this is how the salary cap works....

Mean the Eagles seem to be an outlier they seem to be making it work and being number one on the list there's a whole bunch of teams in the top half of the league that are doing this and it's not showing up in the win loss record the way they would hoped it would....

all teams experience all this it is what it is man.

.Most cap dollars currently in void years:1. PHI (duh): $390.4M2. SF: $204.1M3. CLE: $187.5M4. NO: $112.1M5. JAX:$106.55M6. NYJ: $87.6M7. MIA: $70.6M8. DAL: $62.755M9. TB: $56.1M10. DET: $52.1M11. BAL: $50.8M12. HOU: $47.09M13. MIN: $47.08M14. DEN: $40.3M
 
Pessimist_cowboy said:
Rolling over 26 million from this year. 54 million minus the 26, roughly 28 million over. Releasing Diggs, Hooker would put us at about zero. That’s without touching any restructuring from Dak etc. plenty of room.
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There are more players on this team getting cut that are going to save the Cowboy money I don't know if it's Hooker, Dono, and steele, and there's AA list you restructure or try to figure out Kenny Clark he's making like $20 million but zero dead cat money if you release him that's 20 million right there...

I mean I don't know the list by heart but they're far more than you think that are going to definitely be easy to get under the cap I don't think they're gonna have to restructure Prescott again they just restructured him and Lamb this off season so it'll be someone else...

Have an army of capologists that work for them this isn't Jerry Steven and Will over there by themselves he talked about this there are a lot of management that all they handle is the cap and contract structures in order to stay under the cap and how you fit trades in the cap there are literally so many employees jerry has to figure this all out because you actually knew do need an army of CPAs and lawyers and all that to handle all this that's what they have they do not do this on their own..
 
Love to see some of the same people who say the cap doesn’t exist or blow it off like its never an issue were also some of the same fans talking about what a great move trading Parsons was partly due to the large amount of cap space they would save :huh:
 
The cap works in the sense that you always end up paying at some point. The Eagles will eventually have some down years and they will absorb their spending from the past and pushing money into the future. Then after the bad years they will do it again.

We never do that. We are always hanging "around the rim".
 
dreghorn2 said:
Harbaugh - Chargers, with their QB signed, will have 101 million for next year. Took the job with a horrendous cap situation, winning despite all the dead money and on their 4th and 5th OTs

McVay - Rams, everyone knows the cap hole they dug/are digging out of, 80 million next year.

Payton - Broncos, shedding all that crazy dead money for Wilson, No.1 seed in the AFC with a 2nd year QB, 40 million next year.

It's amazing what can be done with the right people.
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It's not mazing, it's expected! Unfortunately, the Cowboys have had an overbearing GM who would have been fired by now if he worked for another NFL organization.
 
Amarth said:
Love to see some of the same people who say the cap doesn’t exist or blow it off like its never an issue were also some of the same fans talking about what a great move trading Parsons was partly due to the large amount of cap space they would save :huh:
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That's strange, since maybe you thought the moves they made after he left, all the extensions the new contracts the trade they utilized that money already,

they did have the extra money and they used it early they basically started 2026's offseason early, when they traded for Quinn Williams and Logan Wilson , Brought in Clowney, and then add to it the extensions that they gave to about four guys after Parsons left, they got done that early, that was basically moves they probably would have done in February- March of 2026, they did it this year.

He did free up money ,he also departs the straight, we still have another first round pick to use ,they have already started utilizing the benefit of trading him, yes ,they did,

maybe you missed that part and now you're trying to make it like trading him gave us no benefit that's what you're trying to say maybe you missed it all and I'm not going to list it for you because if you don't follow the Cowboys very closely you shouldn't be in there having debates, when you're spreading around false narratives,

they did have plenty of money, they already utilized some of the draft capital, and they still have more to go....

Parsons got you Kenny Clark, Q.williams, Logan Wilson, Clowney, and 4 extensions, plus another first rounder to utilize..

But those moves are what ate up the extra money. Like people said in here they will create more money by making more moves It's a reset every single offseason, we shouldn't even be talking about it ,but hey if we need to mansplain the business side of football that's OK...
 
Jerry, Stephen, Adam

The Cowboys cap/contract experts although none of them have any background in finance and none except Jerry have done anything else

Of course they are experts
 
dreghorn2 said:
Harbaugh - Chargers, with their QB signed, will have 101 million for next year. Took the job with a horrendous cap situation, winning despite all the dead money and on their 4th and 5th OTs

McVay - Rams, everyone knows the cap hole they dug/are digging out of, 80 million next year.

Payton - Broncos, shedding all that crazy dead money for Wilson, No.1 seed in the AFC with a 2nd year QB, 40 million next year.

It's amazing what can be done with the right people.
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Exactly. It's teams with sharp, creative minds in the front office vs. a team with a yellow-toothed Skeletor, a lot of Johnnie Walker and some oompa loompas in the front office.
 
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