The Cowboys will conduct private workouts with all the top quarterbacks

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this confirms it for me,I am thinking if someone would want to move in at 3 for a Qb but the cost is so prohibitive. its either Goff or Wentz,i hope the Browns take Wentz.
 

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this confirms it for me,I am thinking if someone would want to move in at 3 for a Qb but the cost is so prohibitive. its either Goff or Wentz,i hope the Browns take Wentz.

I'm not sure why this would confirm it. They may be planning to try to get one in the second or possibly trade back into the first for one or wait until the later rounds. I think all this confirms is Dallas is going to take a QB at some point.
 

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I'm not sure why this would confirm it. They may be planning to try to get one in the second or possibly trade back into the first for one or wait until the later rounds. I think all this confirms is Dallas is going to take a QB at some point.

We won't be able to get one of the top QBs in the second and waiting until the later rounds is useless, IMO. Perhaps Lynch in a trade into first. If you want Wentz or Goff, it's at 4. I'm all for Wentz/Goff.
 

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No, Jerry did not say that a quarterback would not be taken at 4. He just said the team wouldn't be forced to do that, just because of position. That doesn't discount level of talent analysis and BPA...which does have a positional slant built into it.
 

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We won't be able to get one of the top QBs in the second and waiting until the later rounds is useless, IMO. Perhaps Lynch in a trade into first. If you want Wentz or Goff, it's at 4. I'm all for Wentz/Goff.

That's certainly your opinion. I believe Dallas should take a QB in this draft no matter what and attempt to develop one.

I'm OK with them using the No. 4 overall pick on one if the team has them valued that high. If not, then I'm OK with them trading back into the first round for Lynch if he's worthy of that ... or taking him in the second if that's where he ends up. Or taking Connor Cook in the second if he's worthy of that. Or Dak Prescott, etc.

The probability of finding a starting QB goes down after the first round, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The probability of finding a starter goes down at every position after the first round. It's more rare to find a QB, but fewer QBs worth drafting are available and taken each year than most positions.

I would not want to pass on a Russell Wilson just because we didn't take a QB in the first round.
 

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No, Jerry did not say that a quarterback would not be taken at 4. He just said the team wouldn't be forced to do that, just because of position. That doesn't discount level of talent analysis and BPA...which does have a positional slant built into it.

Actually, according to Gil Brandt, Jones said the Cowboys will not take a QB with the No. 4 pick.

"Jerry told me recently that he will unequivocally not take a quarterback at No. 4, where the Cowboys draft this year. I believe him," Brandt wrote in a review of developmental QB options for the Cowboys in the draft. "It makes sense if you think Romo will make a full recovery from offseason surgery, will be your starter for at least three more years, and your team has a window of opportunity that will remain open by filling more glaring needs with the top pick in the draft."
 

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Well this makes me believe they're at least considering it. Not going to hold my breath though...
 

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Actually, according to Gil Brandt, Jones said the Cowboys will not take a QB with the No. 4 pick.

"Jerry told me recently that he will unequivocally not take a quarterback at No. 4, where the Cowboys draft this year. I believe him," Brandt wrote in a review of developmental QB options for the Cowboys in the draft. "It makes sense if you think Romo will make a full recovery from offseason surgery, will be your starter for at least three more years, and your team has a window of opportunity that will remain open by filling more glaring needs with the top pick in the draft."

That has been updated as veterans have been signed, improving the overall picture. There just isn't a single outside pressure guy in this draft...all are going to be seen through development. As to the secondary, it now is at least stable for this season. A running back has been added to the group. So, quarterback is fully back on the draft board, there will be the decision come Day 1 of the draft.

Gil Brandt is still a respectable source, and a long time adviser to Jerry...but he definitely is not on the current staff or in the actual know. I'd listen to him, but not take that as a decisive factor when logic says different.
 

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Due diligence. If we take a QB at all in the first, it is Lynch in a trade up. Otherwise it is Dak Prescott all day, all night. Might even have a Quincy Carter like trade up in a panic. :(
 

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If you have a chance why not draft the best QB in the draft?

Because the best QB in the draft might not be the best player available. He might not even be in the top 10 depending on who you listen to.

I prefer that the Cowboys follow their draft board. If Wentz or Goff is equal to or even close in projected ability to the top player available, then take him. If not, then don't reach just because you have the No. 4 pick and don't plan to be there again. There are other players there worthy of that pick.
 

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That has been updated as veterans have been signed, improving the overall picture. There just isn't a single outside pressure guy in this draft...all are going to be seen through development. As to the secondary, it now is at least stable for this season. A running back has been added to the group. So, quarterback is fully back on the draft board, there will be the decision come Day 1 of the draft.

Gil Brandt is still a respectable source, and a long time adviser to Jerry...but he definitely is not on the current staff or in the actual know. I'd listen to him, but not take that as a decisive factor when logic says different.

How has it been updated? Nowhere has Jerry come out and said anything to refute this ... and Brandt isn't the only one who reported Jerry saying Dallas would not take a QB in the first round.

I know Jerry speaks out of the side of his mouth, but most of the time when he makes point-blank statements, he means them.
 

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this confirms it for me,I am thinking if someone would want to move in at 3 for a Qb but the cost is so prohibitive. its either Goff or Wentz,i hope the Browns take Wentz.

I think either Goff or Wentz, if drafted by the Cowboys, they'll fare better in their careers than if the Browns draft them.

Reason? Because the Browns don't have an established quarterback, the fans will be clamoring for the backup if they're losing. The organization may feel a need to play him (either Wentz/Goff) to get him experience to start in Year 2. And that may be enough to ruin either quarterback because the Browns won't have the players around Wentz/Goff to help him and keep him from taking a beating.

A lot of quarterbacks fail because they were thrust into the starting role too soon. They don't get a chance to absorb the game behind a seasoned veteran or get to learn the playbook at a normal pace.

The Cowboys, however, have Romo. And Romo is a proven starter and a proven winner. There won't be the need to rush in either Wentz or Goff, and the ability to learn from a pro and to absorb the playbook at a normal pace will benefit either Wentz or Goff in the long run, especially Wentz, who doesn't need to start right away. Wentz needs a year to take in the pro game; Goff needs a year to bulk up.

It's my firm opinion that whichever one goes to the Browns, he won't reach his full potential. But whichever one comes to the Cowboys, his career will fare better.
 

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That has been updated as veterans have been signed, improving the overall picture. There just isn't a single outside pressure guy in this draft...all are going to be seen through development. As to the secondary, it now is at least stable for this season. A running back has been added to the group. So, quarterback is fully back on the draft board, there will be the decision come Day 1 of the draft.

Gil Brandt is still a respectable source, and a long time adviser to Jerry...but he definitely is not on the current staff or in the actual know. I'd listen to him, but not take that as a decisive factor when logic says different.

Gil Brandt can hold a secret like high school boys having sex with their teachers. Does one not think Jerry knows that Brandt is going to blab what he tells him to the world, seeing how Brandt writes a column and pontificates about draft scenarios?

Fortunately, Jerry has included his son, Jason and others into the draft decision-making process and will likely listen to their feedback. I can't believe no one in the Cowboys organization thinks Romo isn't an injury away from retirement. The odds of him being as productive as he is currently three, four, five years from now are very slim.
Somebody with a lick of sense has to be on the Cowboys staff advising Jerry that if Wentz or Goff is at the top of their board, they need to take him.

At least I hope. Please?
 

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How has it been updated? Nowhere has Jerry come out and said anything to refute this ... and Brandt isn't the only one who reported Jerry saying Dallas would not take a QB in the first round.

I know Jerry speaks out of the side of his mouth, but most of the time when he makes point-blank statements, he means them.

Never mind, the assumption takes thinking and common sense...
 
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