The defense has forced 12 turnovers through six games

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Rob Ryan's defense couldn't generate turnovers.

Rob Ryan's defense in New Orleans has generated 12 turnovers this season...same as the Cowboys. But consider: the Cowboys got half of their turnovers against the turnover factory Giants. They have enjoyed a modest 6 turnovers over the past 5 games.

 

[ryanbabs]

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Stop trying exclude the Giants game. Those TOs count.

Agreed. If you're going to look at it this way, then there was probably a game last year we could not include, or throw out the Chiefs game because we had zero. We're not going to have a lot of turnovers every single game but you can't throw it out if we do get several in a game.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Turnovers usually come in bunches. So if you deduct a game here and a game there, you can skew the stats however you want.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

Rob Ryan's defense has generated 12 turnovers this season...same as the Cowboys. But consider: the Cowboys got half of their turnovers against the turnover factory Giants. They have enjoyed a modest 6 turnovers over the past 5 games.

It's embarrassing that I have to point out how silly this "point" is.

How about this -- we have six interceptions through 6 games, and we had 7 all of 2012.

 

[ryanbabs]

I'm saying since then they only forced 6. Is that a falsehood?

You cannot logically say the Giants turnovers don't count. So were going from an actual five turnovers to zero just to make it closer resemble last year's numbers?

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Rob Ryan's defense in New Orleans has generated 12 turnovers this season...same as the Cowboys. But consider: the Cowboys got half of their turnovers against the turnover factory Giants. They have enjoyed a modest 6 turnovers over the past 5 games.

People act like the lack of TOs the last 5 games isn't a big deal. Consider this: Romo throws for 550 yards one game. Then he throws for 200 a game the next 5 games. Are people not gonna care?

 

[iceman117]

So we're -1 outside of the Giants game.

Also, we forced 6 turnovers in the past 5 games, which is about the rate we were last year.

You can't just say take away a game...

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Rob Ryan's defense in New Orleans has generated 12 turnovers this season...same as the Cowboys. But consider: the Cowboys got half of their turnovers against the turnover factory Giants. They have enjoyed a modest 6 turnovers over the past 5 games.

Why on earth are you excluding the turnovers in the Giants game like it doesn't count? Yet, you don't exclude ANY of the Saints games when trying to make a point?

 

[TheRomoSexual]

People act like the lack of TOs the last 5 games isn't a big deal. Consider this: Romo throws for 550 yards one game. Then he throws for 200 a game the next 5 games. Are people not gonna care?

People certainly aren't going to pretend that he didn't throw for 500 yards for whatever absurd reason.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

Why on earth are you excluding the turnovers in the Giants game like it doesn't count? Yet, you don't exclude ANY of the Saints games when trying to make a point?

The logical fallacies in that post are mindblowing.

 

[percyhoward]

It was 6 games ago, which means we've been regressing.

Or it means we haven't played the Giants in the last 5 games.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The logical fallacies in that post are mindblowing.

Its mind boggling to me. Just like when people say "Well if you take away Demarco's big run he only had....". Why would you take away that run? it makes no sense.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Or it means we haven't played the Giants in the last 5 games.

It's easy to pad your stats against bad teams. The Giants are known for turning it over. Just because your numbers are better doesn't mean you're actually better. What if we lose in the playoffs because we can't force a TO? Will everyone still be satisfied?

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Its mind boggling to me. Just like when people say "Well if you take away Demarco's big run he only had....". Why would you take away that run? it makes no sense.

Because when it matters, are you really better?

 

[TheRomoSexual]

It's easy to pad your stats against bad teams. The Giants are known for turning it over. Just because your numbers are better doesn't mean you're actually better. What if we lose in the playoffs because we can't force a TO? Will everyone still be satisfied?

Hey guys, if you take away the Denver game, our defense is only allowing 20 point per game on average! That's pretty darn solid!

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Its mind boggling to me. Just like when people say "Well if you take away Demarco's big run he only had....". Why would you take away that run? it makes no sense.

If we force 1 per game ( same as last year) games 2-16 will you think we improved or the Giants game was a fluke?

 

[CowboyStar88]

It's easy to pad your stats against bad teams. The Giants are known for turning it over. Just because your numbers are better doesn't mean you're actually better. What if we lose in the playoffs because we can't force a TO? Will everyone still be satisfied?

They weren't known for turning it over before that game. So maybe Dallas gave the blueprint for it against them. Why take credit away from them? Nobody knew the Giants were going to become turnover machine. I will never understand this thought process for excluding plays, TDs, yards, etc... Just to skew stats to force an agenda. They earned those TOs

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Because when it matters, are you really better?

Yes you are. Did you have any faith this team would generate ANY turnovers last season? Especially 6 in one game? You don't just fluke and run into turnovers. Not 6 different times.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Football is a game of streaks. How does the last 5 games not matter?

 

[percyhoward]

What if we lose in the playoffs because we can't force a TO? Will everyone still be satisfied?

No, but it probably won't be for that reason. Takeaways get nowhere near the attention that turnovers get. And lack of takeaways even less.