The Eagles Jalen Hurts problem

Risen Star said:


Some notes from @JFowlerESPN’s article on Jalen Hurts:

- pushed back on changes that would diversify the scheme,

- wanted to avoid playing under center

- reluctant to let it rip at times, particularly against zone coverage

- poor body language, not always bought in

- not the most coachable and the players notice

- diverts from the game plan and changes playcalls to an excessive degree
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Hurts has performed fantastic in both SBs against the Chiefs. But man he sure looks like he doesn’t even care about playing football. I’ve never seen a player look like that before. I can understand it’s best to remain even keel and dont get too high or too down on yourself because it’s a mental game too. But he looks like he is suffering from depression or something.
 
Hadenough said:
Hurts has performed fantastic in both SBs against the Chiefs. But man he sure looks like he doesn’t even care about playing football. I’ve never seen a player look like that before. I can understand it’s best to remain even keel and dont get too high or too down on yourself because it’s a mental game too. But he looks like he is suffering from depression or something.
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Fantastic? Sure, fantastic for a QB whose D is winning the game.

Last super bowl he had 221 yds passing, and got 75 yds rushing as the Chiefs focused their D on shutting down Barkley. If you're remember, Hurts wasn't very good early in that super bowl, but the D completely squushed the Chiefs, so he was given more chances. And then w/ a big lead, it was easy for him to just drive the bus and not turn the ball over.
 
I love these threads. One of the reasons I’m quasi following the team (though not watching the games currently). Some fans actually believe an idiotic conspiracy that other people have the time to spend on a Cowboy's forum pretending to be Cowboy’s fans while secretly being Eagle’s fans. The only Eagle’s fan in the thread is AeroLithe who will just readily admit his fandom.

Hurts is a mobile QB with a good enough arm/demeanor to make plays in the passing game when given elite OL play and good/great RB’s to do the heavy offensive lifting. Lots of teams must win like that. Hurts did a bunch of running when needed in their SB win and hit some big pass plays when they were available. The defense was the most dominant unit, but he made the plays he needed to make to win the hand.

Can’t fans leave Dak out of threads like this-in good or bad terms? Dak does not play for another team and never has-what he could have done with x, y, z player or coach is fantasy land. He chose to stay in the comfy confines that Jerry has provided-he does not want to leave and never did. Any issue that Jerry has caused-Dak signed up for, end of story.
 
visionary said:
And it is exactly this kind of ignorance Dakstans have to dig out to defend him

No one with an understanding of football thinks Jim Kelly and Nick Foles are at the same level. When you have a great QB like Kelly you have a real chance every year. Foles and Dilfer were average QBs who got lucky.

Is Dak Foles or Dilfer level? Sure

Put that in your pipe and smoke it
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First of all.... if you read the post of the person I responded to, you would have realized that I said nothing or mentioned anything that defended Dak in any way. I actually agreed with that particular posters take on Dak's limitations.

See this is the exactly the kind of ignorance low IQ mouth breathing cowards have to put words in other people's mouths without understanding what was said in the conversation that they stuck their weak selves in.

You can say what you want about Kelly, but he couldn't win the biggest game when it counted the most like Dilfer and Foles did. I didn't make up the rules for quarterback success measurements around here, im just abiding by them.

So according to you and the other low IQ coward crew, Foles and Dilfer need more respect put on their names because they are Superbowl winning quarterbacks. If standards are held for one quarterback, then those same standards are held for all quarterbacks.

Only low IQ cowards cherry pick guidelines for one set of quarterbacks then create another set of guidelines for other quarterbacks.

So next time to keep from making an *** out of yourself, read the whole conversation between two people before you come in typing **** that has nothing to do with the original conversation.

Now put THAT in YOUR pipe and smoke it.
 
GINeric said:
First of all.... if you read the post of the person I responded to, you would have realized that I said nothing or mentioned anything that defended Dak in any way. I actually agreed with that particular posters take on Dak's limitations.

See this is the exactly the kind of ignorance low IQ mouth breathing cowards have to put words in other people's mouths without understanding what was said in the conversation that they stuck their weak selves in.

You can say what you want about Kelly, but he couldn't win the biggest game when it counted the most like Dilfer and Foles did. I didn't make up the rules for quarterback success measurements around here, im just abiding by them.

So according to you and the other low IQ coward crew, Foles and Dilfer need more respect put on their names because they are Superbowl winning quarterbacks. If standards are held for one quarterback, then those same standards are held for all quarterbacks.

Only low IQ cowards cherry pick guidelines for one set of quarterbacks then create another set of guidelines for other quarterbacks.

So next time to keep from making an *** out of yourself, read the whole conversation between two people before you come in typing **** that has nothing to do with the original conversation.

Now put THAT in YOUR pipe and smoke it.
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It is clear i have triggered some truth that you are unable to handle

I could similarly call you a sniveling spineless jellyfish and it would be true and make me feel better but i will be the bigger person and not call you what your friends call you
 
visionary said:
It is clear i have triggered some truth that you are unable to handle

I could similarly call you a sniveling spineless jellyfish and it would be true and make me feel better but i will be the bigger person and not call you what your friends call you
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You started with the insults first because you're weak. You claimed I defended Dak when my post responding to the other poster said quite the opposite.

So the only thing your weak, spineless, coward *** triggered was some laughter.

The poster said that when it comes to the bigger moments Dak doesn't show up. My first sentence responding to him was, "That is very true".

You accused me of defending Dak. Which part of my response defended Dak. Let's see if you can handle that simple task of answering this question kid.
 
kskboys said:
Fantastic? Sure, fantastic for a QB whose D is winning the game.

Last super bowl he had 221 yds passing, and got 75 yds rushing as the Chiefs focused their D on shutting down Barkley. If you're remember, Hurts wasn't very good early in that super bowl, but the D completely squushed the Chiefs, so he was given more chances. And then w/ a big lead, it was easy for him to just drive the bus and not turn the ball over.
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Yeah but he converted some major 3rd down conversions with his legs. He was very efficient going 17 of 22 for 221 yds. Also accounted for 3 tds. I believe he was MVP too
 
AsthmaField said:
It doesn’t really change much for Dallas.

All I know though is that as a Dallas fan, I’m glad that Hurts is Y’all’s QB.
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We're glad that Dak is yours and Jerry and Stephen are the owners.
OGSixshooter said:
No lies detected. He's still a sub-par passer. It's like you have a great sports - calibrated for racing with large brake calipers and such - but the engine is weak. Still a great sportscar...but you're not getting the optimal performance. He is 100% responsible for their very boring, predictable offense.

Our TRASH D last year blanked them in like 2 whole halves of games...how? Because they are predictable, we see them so often that even our inept D could matchup! That's a horrible indictment of Hurts!
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Throws one of the best and most accurate deep balls in the league and has never had a losing season at any level on any team.

Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, Brian Baldinger, Jon Gruden, Joe Thiesman all say he is a great to elite qb.

Jordan made him the face of his entire brand.

But everybody with an opinion and internet connection. Knows more than them; from their couches or place of employment which is not the NFL.

You haven't seen Dak do anything in his 10 year career that comes close to what that predictible offense has been able to do with Hurts. Yet the excuses flow like water around here.

Dak needs a top 5 defense to win. He's had that and lost. Dak needs multiple offensive weapons to win. He's had that and lost.
The Cowboys need better coaching to win. They've had that and lost.

Thats an indictment of the entire Cowboys organization. From Jerry, Stephen, Dak, and the water boy.

As an unabashed Eagles fan and NFL football fan that just doesnt watch the Eagles, but actually watches all games on sunday. Its hilarious!

Yall are entertaining on these boards to say the least.
 
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CT Dal Fan said:
Whether you want to admit it or not, put Dak on those Eagles teams and he has at least one ring as well. Hurts made some plays, yes, but all he had to do was execute, avoid mistakes, and the superstar team around him did the rest. When Hurts did not execute and did make mistakes, well look, it showed.

Dak is a better QB than Hurts. To suggest otherwise is clinging to an agenda or being willfully ignorant. The Cowboys as a team have failed to come up clutch in the playoffs. Yes, including Dak. But Hurts could fail to come up clutch and the Eagles would often still win. Because everyone around him elevated their games.

Tell me when the last time was the rest of the Cowboys (and the coaches, for that matter) elevated their games in the playoffs? Dak has been a part of it. I readily admit that. But he has not ever been the ONLY one at fault.
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That's not a fact. We have no clue how Dak would perform on any team other than the Cowboys bc we don't have any evidence to that. Its wild to say, " Dak has been apart of the Cowboys NOT elevating their game in the playoffs."
But then in the next breathe say he would be better for a team than the guy where have actual evidence of him ELEVATING his game in the playoffs.

Lol make it make sense.
 
TheRunningMan said:
We're glad that Dak is yours and Jerry and Stephen are the owners.

Throws one of the best and most accurate deep balls in the league and has never had a losing season at any level on any team.

Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, Brian Baldinger, Jon Gruden, Joe Thiesman all say he is a great to elite qb.

Jordan made him the face of his entire brand.

But everybody with an opinion and internet connection. Knows more than them; from their couches or place of employment which is not the NFL.

You haven't seen Dak do anything in his 10 year career that comes close to what that predictible offense has been able to do with Hurts. Yet the excuses flow like water around here.

Dak needs a top 5 defense to win. He's had that and lost. Dak needs multiple offensive weapons to win. He's had that and lost.
The Cowboys need better coaching to win. They've had that and lost.

Thats an indictment of the entire Cowboys organization. From Jerry, Stephen, Dak, and the water boy.

As an unabashed Eagles fan and NFL football fan that just doesnt watch the Eagles, but actually watches all games on sunday. Its hilarious!

Yall are entertaining on these boards to say the least.
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Not one former or current NFL QB thinks Hurts is a good/great passer. He's good enough.
 
OGSixshooter said:
Not one former or current NFL QB thinks Hurts is a good/great passer. He's good enough.
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Tom Brady has frequently praised Jalen Hurts' success, calling him "unstoppable" and a high-level performer with exceptional poise and leadership. As an analyst, Brady noted Hurts' development into a composed pocket passer with a "winning mentality," often calling him a "general" and a "warrior".



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*You know there's this new modern invention called "Google"


Lie to yourself or whatever God you pray to. Don't lie to me.
 
TheRunningMan said:
Tom Brady has frequently praised Jalen Hurts' success, calling him "unstoppable" and a high-level performer with exceptional poise and leadership. As an analyst, Brady noted Hurts' development into a composed pocket passer with a "winning mentality," often calling him a "general" and a "warrior".
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Lie to yourself or whatever God you pray to. Don't lie to me.
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P-A-S-S-E-R. He is successful. But there's a reason why AJ Brown is reading self-help books on the sidelines. He's more clutch than Dak will ever be...but he's carried by an all-star cast and they don't even like him because he dinks and dunks and runs and occasionally throws up a prayer when he absolutely need to. That's no way for wide receivers to eat.
 
GINeric said:
Another creative way of bringing Dak into a Jalen Hurts threads. Dak has nothing to do with Hurts or the Eagles.

In reality, Jalen Hurts has the same amount of Superbowl wins as Trent Dilfer. I think Trent Dilfer would have won 3 Superbowls with the same Eagles teams that Hurts only won one with.
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Tell me how many All Pros does Trent Dilfer have to go with that Super Bowl?

I get it you only watch the Cowboys and don't know football. Just say that next time.
 
OGSixshooter said:
P-A-S-S-E-R. He is successful. But there's a reason why AJ Brown is reading self-help books on the sidelines. He's more clutch than Dak will ever be...but he's carried by an all-star cast and they don't even like him because he dinks and dunks and runs and occasionally throws up a prayer when he absolutely need to. That's no way for wide receivers to eat.
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"Brady has described Hurts as a "big-time" quarterback who makes high-percentage throws and reads defenses well"

Ah so qbs that aren't good. Get that type of praise from the GOAT???


Crazy how his WRs have had 1k+ seasons over the last 4 years playing with him. And Aj Brown became a multiple All Pro. And top 5 wr playing with him. When he wasn't any of those things in TN. Playing with a much netter qb according to yall. lmao!

And Tom Brady has said Jalen Hurts is an

Veyond that you clearly don't know what you're talking about. There is no verifiable source that has said the Eagles players don't like Jalen Hurts. And even they dont? I can guarantee you they like winning with him. lmao
 
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Posting six times in a half hour span in the same thread seems big mad. Couldn't be me.
 
OGSixshooter said:
P-A-S-S-E-R. He is successful. But there's a reason why AJ Brown is reading self-help books on the sidelines. He's more clutch than Dak will ever be...but he's carried by an all-star cast and they don't even like him because he dinks and dunks and runs and occasionally throws up a prayer when he absolutely need to. That's no way for wide receivers to eat.
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OGSixshooter said:
P-A-S-S-E-R. He is successful. But there's a reason why AJ Brown is reading self-help books on the sidelines. He's more clutch than Dak will ever be...but he's carried by an all-star cast and they don't even like him because he dinks and dunks and runs and occasionally throws up a prayer when he absolutely need to. That's no way for wide receivers to eat.
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"No former qb has said Hurts is an elite or good PASSER"

So Kurt Warner never played in the NFL?
What color is the sky in the fictional world you live in? Bc its not reality like the rest of us



Look' i get it. Yall are diehard Cowboy fans that have been struggling for relevance since the 90s. And you HATE all things Eagles. But none of this is going get yall to the promised land. Continue to hate on greatness bc it doesnt look like what the Cowboys have been doing for the last 30 years, and the only joy you can take from football is the perceived failures and weakness of your betters.

Beating and crapping on the Eagles has become yalla Super Bowl. Crazy!
 
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