The elephant in the war room

Doomsday101

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I think WR last year would have done better if we did not have QB who hesitated to throw the ball. The windows in the NFL do not stay open long and the QB needs to get that ball out quickly and anticipate as the WR is coming out of their breaks. I'm not trying to claim Williams as a #1 WR but I think much of the issues with WR last season had as much if not more to do with QB who looked hesitant in making the throws.
 

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I think WR last year would have done better if we did not have QB who hesitated to throw the ball. The windows in the NFL do not stay open long and the QB needs to get that ball out quickly and anticipate as the WR is coming out of their breaks. I'm not trying to claim Williams as a #1 WR but I think much of the issues with WR last season had as much if not more to do with QB who looked hesitant in making the throws.

I just don't think he can beat the top cornerback on the other team.
 

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With all the other holes this team has, I think you have to role the dice and hope Dez regains his form and one of the other guys steps up in his absence. A dominant receiver is a luxury and/or a final piece of the puzzle. It's not something I would surrender a high round draft pick to get. Not with the state of this team.
 

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I just don't think he can beat the top cornerback on the other team.

How many teams have a #2 receiver who can beat a true #1 corner?

I put the inability to create seems for players and exploit match-ups squarely on the shoulders of the coaching staff.
 

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I just don't think he can beat the top cornerback on the other team.

Again not claiming him as a #1 but what I saw were QB who did a poor staring down WR and hesitating on making the throws. You can't wait until the WR is coming out of his break the ball must be delivered as he hits his mark and the WR begins to make his break. As for the WR position I have no problem with later rd selection but Cowboys as you said just signed Dez to a long term big contract so the ideal of taking a WR in the 1st rd I think is slim to none.
 

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2nd WR is another reason to trade down and pick up more 2nd round picks. If you can get Lynch later in the first and a RB in the 3rd round, there will be excellent picks at DE, WR and Safety in the 2nd round.

Its not likely but possible that Coleman or Doctson could drop to our pick at 34. And there are a lot of solid second round WR prospects available like Michael Thomas, Pharoh Cooper, Will Fuller, and Braxton Miller.
 

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I think that part of the WR problem is the scheme that Dallas runs. It isn't one that is designed to load up WRs with catches and get them in a lot of space to run. Rarely do we see deep balls. A player like D. Jackson would seem to be a waste in their offense.

With all that said, I think Dez is often very overrated (maybe except down by the goal line) and it was a questionable decision to extend him with that huge contract. Last season was a disaster.
 

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I think that part of the WR problem is the scheme that Dallas runs. It isn't one that is designed to load up WRs with catches and get them in a lot of space to run. Rarely do we see deep balls. A player like D. Jackson would seem to be a waste in their offense.

With all that said, I think Dez is often very overrated (maybe except down by the goal line) and it was a questionable decision to extend him with that huge contract. Last season was a disaster.

You mention the archaic offensive system and then talk about Dez being overrated. Does not compute. If Dez can dominate like we have seen him, even in this system, just think what he could do if the coaches actually made an attempt to vary the route tree and/or move him around. Perhaps even *gasp* give him some run from the slot.

I think Dez is clearly one of the most dynamic playmakers at his position in the league, I think he is mentally weak however and the coaching staff have the creativity of a rock.
 

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Can't imagine WR coming into play at 4, but it very well could as early as 34.
I'd prefer later, please.
 

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The unspeakable must be spoken.

The clamor for quarterback chasers and ball toters and pass breaker-uppers will dominate our thoughts and posts for the next three weeks. Even more so, the QB question looms larger, knowing we're unknowingly close to having that nuts-in-a-bench-vice conundrum to fight through if we push it off much further.

The here-and-now versus the uh-oh-later. Such is the enigma wrapped in a riddle for the personnel people.

But are we perhaps burying another pressing problem?

We all agree that Dallas needs an upgrade at WR to go alongside Dez. We know that because, while Williams is pretty good with Dez, he's virtually useless without him, and the rest of the corps are a collection of slot guys and incomplete packages that can't carry the water in a pinch. Witten is 100 years old, and Escobar is a unicorn.

That's critically important because perhaps the real question is, does Dallas actually need a replacement for Dez, not just a better No. 2 receiver?

The scary truth of the matter is that there's no certainty Dez will fully recover from the injury he had last year. Foot injuries are a testy lot for receivers, especially when they involve broken bones that whisper funny French words like Lisfranc. You don't want to hear that word. Dez' break was never fully rendered as such, but it was in the "like Lisfranc" mentions, and that should worry us all. It not only robs speed and quickness, these fractures often re-fracture and never properly heal for the rigors of running routes.

Dez is a tough hombre, and we all know he played through pain. But he wasn't good, and not just because of the quarterbacks throwing to him. Even Weeden managed to find a rhythm with DeAndre Hopkins. Dez wandered through routes and floated through games. He wasn't himself, not by a long shot.

I watched him closely, and there was no explosion, no separation, no crispness to him the entire season. He was an easy cover, and his frustration got to his hands, where many passes were simply dropped. He was rendered a non-factor in a bland season that left Linehan handcuffed and short-staffed. We're all assuming that it was just a temporary season thing, and we get 2014 Dez back soon. I'm not so sure.

If we don't, it presents two problems. First, the rest of the bunch can't function without Dez' threat on the field, so that presence must be replaced with a draft pick. Second, Jerry dumped a lot of money on Dez less than a year ago, and that contract could become an albatross of sorts. A young cheap No. 1 receiver would be needed while the Cowboys ride out Dez' contract.

The dice have to be rolled somewhere. Who would you rather gamble on...Romo, Dez, or Morris/McFadden? Can you muster a pass rush with those on hand? Can you afford to just go Best Player Available this time? (I'm usually a BPA guy.)

The quiet secret may lie in a mended, or not-so-mended, foot.

His foot injury was nothing like a Lisfranc injury. He had a Jones fracture, which is on the outer metatarsal bone. He never let it completely heal, but is doing so this offseason.

The Lisfranc injury is to the top of the foot, and involves a fracture/rupture of a ligament.

Completely different injury. Julio Jones had the same injury as Dez, and ultimately recovered. Hakeem Nicks had the same, and didn't.

We'll just have to wait and see.
 

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I think that part of the WR problem is the scheme that Dallas runs. It isn't one that is designed to load up WRs with catches and get them in a lot of space to run. Rarely do we see deep balls. A player like D. Jackson would seem to be a waste in their offense.

With all that said, I think Dez is often very overrated (maybe except down by the goal line) and it was a questionable decision to extend him with that huge contract. Last season was a disaster.

Don't think Dez is overrated. Like you said, it's the scheme. Too predictable.
 

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I think that part of the WR problem is the scheme that Dallas runs. It isn't one that is designed to load up WRs with catches and get them in a lot of space to run. Rarely do we see deep balls. A player like D. Jackson would seem to be a waste in their offense.

With all that said, I think Dez is often very overrated (maybe except down by the goal line) and it was a questionable decision to extend him with that huge contract. Last season was a disaster.

3 things I dont like about Dez. His attitude. Too many easy drops, often on 3rd down. And he can be taken out of games sometimes even in single coverage. But he is a red zone minotaur, tough to tackle, and tough to stop on any jump ball pass.
 

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This teams roster is filled with holes but to the OP, WR is the elephant in the room? The glaring issue I see with that is, the room has a pack of elephants in it. I don't disagree with the OP's premise, it's just lacking in pointing out the weak links on this team. It's more than one draft or free agency period can fix and it's on all parts of the team... defense gets neglected way too much. Pass rush, secondary, RB, QB... pachyderms in the house.
 

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Perhaps not, but do you want good players, or great players? I understand that they come from all parts of the draft, but your odds increase the sooner you pick them.

I agree, this is why I posted what I did in my original post. I have to think that if we don't like the options we have, then we should be able to get good value for a trade down.

I would rather have a great player but lets say, for example, our option is Tunsil at 4. I don't think that would happen but lets say it did, it would probably not be the best move to take him there. We don't need a LT, which is what he would be. We would have to pay him like a LT and then we would not only have a lot of very expensive contracts along the OL but basically two starting LT contracts. Just not very financially sound, even though he is one of those 4 or 5 guys that are a cut above.
 

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Personally, I'd rather have Doctson. Maybe even Coleman.

Treadwell has higher upside than both and is a bigger target.

Coleman is basically Fuller to me and I wouldn't take either at 34. Neither can be the next Dez. Only Treadwell can be that type of WR IMO.
 

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I agree, this is why I posted what I did in my original post. I have to think that if we don't like the options we have, then we should be able to get good value for a trade down.

I would rather have a great player but lets say, for example, our option is Tunsil at 4. I don't think that would happen but lets say it did, it would probably not be the best move to take him there. We don't need a LT, which is what he would be. We would have to pay him like a LT and then we would not only have a lot of very expensive contracts along the OL but basically two starting LT contracts. Just not very financially sound, even though he is one of those 4 or 5 guys that are a cut above.

If Tunsil is there at 4, then you run to the podium, and play him at RT, day 1.

Wentz, Tunsil, Ramsey, trade down

If you have to pick at 4, because none of the above is available, they must decide bw Goff, Buckner, Bosa, Jack, Zeke
 
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