The elephant in the war room

[erod]

Treadwell has higher upside than both and is a bigger target.

Coleman is basically Fuller to me and I wouldn't take either at 34. Neither can be the next Dez. Only Treadwell can be that type of WR IMO.

Treadwell has higher upside than both and is a bigger target.

Coleman is basically Fuller to me and I wouldn't take either at 34. Neither can be the next Dez. Only Treadwell can be that type of WR IMO.

You need to watch some Doctson tape.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I don't think Dez becomes an issue unless he isn't right this year. No need creating additional needs when we have plenty of them as is.

 

[Sydla]

You need to watch some Doctson tape.

I've seen Doctson tape.

I think Treadwell is better.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Treadwell has higher upside than both and is a bigger target.

Coleman is basically Fuller to me and I wouldn't take either at 34. Neither can be the next Dez. Only Treadwell can be that type of WR IMO.

Treadwell is unlikely to get much better IMO as he isn't going to get any faster which is his big question. He has good enough size but isn't unique there. Needs to master the entire route tree.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

If Tunsil is there at 4, then you run to the podium, and play him at RT, day 1.

Wentz, Tunsil, Ramsey, trade down

If you have to pick at 4, because none of the above is available, they must decide bw Goff, Buckner, Bosa, Jack, Zeke

If you drafted Tunsil, do you just leave him at LT and move Tyron to RT? Tyron has experience there and might make for an overall better line to not have the rookie learn a new position. Just curious your thought.

I have bought into taking the QB of the future. If not, trade down for more picks. If neither of those, I almost think you have to take Bosa. Our DE is so thin.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I'm not worried about Dez.

Sure you think about his injury on occasion... But in the way you sometimes remember a high school sweetheart.

I think about our pass rush like the hot girlfriend who is always up for it...Constantly and with dedicated focus.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

If you drafted Tunsil, do you just leave him at LT and move Tyron to RT? Tyron has experience there and might make for an overall better line to not have the rookie learn a new position. Just curious your thought.

I have bought into taking the QB of the future. If not, trade down for more picks. If neither of those, I almost think you have to take Bosa. Our DE is so thin.

You don't move the best left tackle in football for a rookie.

 

[DeaconMoss]

If you drafted Tunsil, do you just leave him at LT and move Tyron to RT? Tyron has experience there and might make for an overall better line to not have the rookie learn a new position. Just curious your thought.

I have bought into taking the QB of the future. If not, trade down for more picks. If neither of those, I almost think you have to take Bosa. Our DE is so thin.

Tyron is a proven LT Tunsil is a LT prospect. Move Tunsil to RT and never look back.

 

[31smackdown]

Well Julio Jones recovered from the same injury or worse to be one of, if not the best receiver in football last year.... Dez will be Dez
Would I complain about having a 1a and a 1b, of course not. That's a luxury when you don't have a 1a at some positions. You just need someone who can take the top off and take what Dez frees up.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If Tunsil is there at 4, then you run to the podium, and play him at RT, day 1.

Wentz, Tunsil, Ramsey, trade down

If you have to pick at 4, because none of the above is available, they must decide bw Goff, Buckner, Bosa, Jack, Zeke

Tunsil is not a RT. He's a LT so you would have to probably play Smith at RT, which he could do but you still have the problem of paying two LT contracts. No, I don't think that's the way to go. JMO

 

[DandyDon52]

I think that part of the WR problem is the scheme that Dallas runs. It isn't one that is designed to load up WRs with catches and get them in a lot of space to run. Rarely do we see deep balls. A player like D. Jackson would seem to be a waste in their offense.

With all that said, I think Dez is often very overrated (maybe except down by the goal line) and it was a questionable decision to extend him with that huge contract. Last season was a disaster.

I agree, although most wont.
I got the feeling last year that dez got paid, and now he is going to just play normal.
The injuries also had a effect on him, and no romo.
So this year will tell the story on dez, if he was worth it or not, so far he isnt.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Dallas is looking at a few mid/late first round WR types. It wouldnt shock me if they go value at WR at 34

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

The unspeakable must be spoken.

The clamor for quarterback chasers and ball toters and pass breaker-uppers will dominate our thoughts and posts for the next three weeks. Even more so, the QB question looms larger, knowing we're unknowingly close to having that nuts-in-a-bench-vice conundrum to fight through if we push it off much further.

The here-and-now versus the uh-oh-later. Such is the enigma wrapped in a riddle for the personnel people.

But are we perhaps burying another pressing problem?

We all agree that Dallas needs an upgrade at WR to go alongside Dez. We know that because, while Williams is pretty good with Dez, he's virtually useless without him, and the rest of the corps are a collection of slot guys and incomplete packages that can't carry the water in a pinch. Witten is 100 years old, and Escobar is a unicorn.

That's critically important because perhaps the real question is, does Dallas actually need a replacement for Dez, not just a better No. 2 receiver?

The scary truth of the matter is that there's no certainty Dez will fully recover from the injury he had last year. Foot injuries are a testy lot for receivers, especially when they involve broken bones that whisper funny French words like Lisfranc. You don't want to hear that word. Dez' break was never fully rendered as such, but it was in the "like Lisfranc" mentions, and that should worry us all. It not only robs speed and quickness, these fractures often re-fracture and never properly heal for the rigors of running routes.

Dez is a tough hombre, and we all know he played through pain. But he wasn't good, and not just because of the quarterbacks throwing to him. Even Weeden managed to find a rhythm with DeAndre Hopkins. Dez wandered through routes and floated through games. He wasn't himself, not by a long shot.

I watched him closely, and there was no explosion, no separation, no crispness to him the entire season. He was an easy cover, and his frustration got to his hands, where many passes were simply dropped. He was rendered a non-factor in a bland season that left Linehan handcuffed and short-staffed. We're all assuming that it was just a temporary season thing, and we get 2014 Dez back soon. I'm not so sure.

If we don't, it presents two problems. First, the rest of the bunch can't function without Dez' threat on the field, so that presence must be replaced with a draft pick. Second, Jerry dumped a lot of money on Dez less than a year ago, and that contract could become an albatross of sorts. A young cheap No. 1 receiver would be needed while the Cowboys ride out Dez' contract.

The dice have to be rolled somewhere. Who would you rather gamble on...Romo, Dez, or Morris/McFadden? Can you muster a pass rush with those on hand? Can you afford to just go Best Player Available this time? (I'm usually a BPA guy.)

The quiet secret may lie in a mended, or not-so-mended, foot.

Or could it be that Dez has and continues to be hugely overrated?

 

[AsthmaField]

This makes me long for a hot bath and a cold razor...

 

[Jarv]

Maybe Dez will have his best year ever this year? Him and Romo will have a chip on their shoulder and the opposing defense will be forced to play 8 in the box because of Zeke!

 

[CowboyRoy]

The unspeakable must be spoken.

The clamor for quarterback chasers and ball toters and pass breaker-uppers will dominate our thoughts and posts for the next three weeks. Even more so, the QB question looms larger, knowing we're unknowingly close to having that nuts-in-a-bench-vice conundrum to fight through if we push it off much further.

The here-and-now versus the uh-oh-later. Such is the enigma wrapped in a riddle for the personnel people.

But are we perhaps burying another pressing problem?

We all agree that Dallas needs an upgrade at WR to go alongside Dez. We know that because, while Williams is pretty good with Dez, he's virtually useless without him, and the rest of the corps are a collection of slot guys and incomplete packages that can't carry the water in a pinch. Witten is 100 years old, and Escobar is a unicorn.

That's critically important because perhaps the real question is, does Dallas actually need a replacement for Dez, not just a better No. 2 receiver?

The scary truth of the matter is that there's no certainty Dez will fully recover from the injury he had last year. Foot injuries are a testy lot for receivers, especially when they involve broken bones that whisper funny French words like Lisfranc. You don't want to hear that word. Dez' break was never fully rendered as such, but it was in the "like Lisfranc" mentions, and that should worry us all. It not only robs speed and quickness, these fractures often re-fracture and never properly heal for the rigors of running routes.

Dez is a tough hombre, and we all know he played through pain. But he wasn't good, and not just because of the quarterbacks throwing to him. Even Weeden managed to find a rhythm with DeAndre Hopkins. Dez wandered through routes and floated through games. He wasn't himself, not by a long shot.

I watched him closely, and there was no explosion, no separation, no crispness to him the entire season. He was an easy cover, and his frustration got to his hands, where many passes were simply dropped. He was rendered a non-factor in a bland season that left Linehan handcuffed and short-staffed. We're all assuming that it was just a temporary season thing, and we get 2014 Dez back soon. I'm not so sure.

If we don't, it presents two problems. First, the rest of the bunch can't function without Dez' threat on the field, so that presence must be replaced with a draft pick. Second, Jerry dumped a lot of money on Dez less than a year ago, and that contract could become an albatross of sorts. A young cheap No. 1 receiver would be needed while the Cowboys ride out Dez' contract.

The dice have to be rolled somewhere. Who would you rather gamble on...Romo, Dez, or Morris/McFadden? Can you muster a pass rush with those on hand? Can you afford to just go Best Player Available this time? (I'm usually a BPA guy.)

The quiet secret may lie in a mended, or not-so-mended, foot.

Speak for yourself. In my mind, pass catchers is one of our biggest strengths.

 

[dfense]

Given the other needs, and the investment already made in Bryant, I don't think the team can afford to spend a premium pick or premium money in another receiver. Not saying they couldn't or wouldn't use a mid-round pick on an option - especially with Williams entering a contract year - but I can't see them being able to afford using a 1st or 2nd rounder on one.

If the need was dire, there were several nice options to be had in free agency that signed reasonable deals elsewhere and to the best of my knowledge, the Cowboys never showed interest in any of them.

"You can never spend enough consecutive #1 picks on WR's." - Matt Millen

 

[erod]

Or could it be that Dez has and continues to be hugely overrated?

He is, but so are most star players when you get right down to it.

 

[erod]

I've seen Doctson tape.

I think Treadwell is better.

They're kind of the same guy.

 

[dfense]

Who's behind Romo if he goes down? Draft a QB
Who's behind Dez if he goes down? Draft a WR
Who's behind Witten....
Who's behind Lee...
Who's ....