News: The fight that Jason Garrett has put in the Dallas Cowboys

[CCBoy]

Yeah. Odd bird. The fact anyone serves in the military doesn't make that person immune from sounding strange.

Didn't own up to anything by indifference based in bias...not depth of experience or achievement of your own.

You are just too quick to ***** and moan...and then insult what is not an immediate reflection of yourself.

You have ignored definitive transition points expressed that involved Jason Garrett...but wish to belittle after being given that standard, twice...run along sick Cowboy's fan that merely wants bragging rights and someone to insult otherwise. Take your twirp name calling and don't bother to respond to this fan similarly, again. I really can care less what your acceptance levels are...you are what is called, no time in grade, but think you are a General.

You won't listen, so address someone else who really gives a damn what you are complaining about.

 

[TheDude]

Again, and again, and again....rant on.

You don't accept a label of responsibility and a time to prove worth by Jason Garrett...fine, but a monotone of you and sarcasm and irresponsible...equal, **** off and eat ****.

Stay classy san diego

 

[TheDude]

What?

And it's ironic that you chastise people for being insulting, and then end your post how you did. I called you no names, I hurled no curse words at you. I gave a very thorough point of view even bringing some facts to the discussion after you tried to use the Colts and Packers and 49ers as apparent models for patience.

You pretty much win an argument by default when the comeback is "eat **** and **** off"

 

[CCBoy]

Hawaii, just invoke in the presence of your lawyer and slither back in your hole...

 

[Dodger12]

We need a universal translator.....

 

[TheDude]

Hawaii, just invoke in the presence of your lawyer and slither back in your hole...

Here's a maturity level in kind......


Make me.

 

[TheDude]

We need a universal translator.....

 

[CCBoy]

Here's a maturity level in kind......


Make me.

Oh, really...the current President of the burn barrel buddies....ha, who cares?

 

[TheDude]

Oh, really...the current President of the burn barrel buddies....ha, who cares?

Apparently Boy cares.

Enough to make sure you throw one's military service is thrown someones face like that makes your opinion superior without further justification. Only thing we basically surmise from your military service is that you never reached officer status. I have 3 in my family and none ever feel the need to puff their chest out to support an opinion on an topic unrelated to the military - much less tell someone to eat **** and **** off.

Yet every debate in which you begin to slip, here comes the 3 year old girl tantrum, wrapped in broken metaphors, and sold as "I served and I have superior opinions, I cant be chalenged"

you need new material, if we had a nickel for every time you went ol' the "burn barrel" ref, we could have paid off the national debt.

 

[scottsp]

We need a universal translator.....

Glad I'm not the only one. Good grief!

 

[mrmojo]

Based on the last 2 pages I forgot what this thread was about...

 

[elcowboi]

The only fight Garrett has given is that fans want to fight him. That is all.

 

[DandyDon52]

i know of no office environment around that has those motivational pieces all over the place that has ever done a damn bit of good. it's great for show. it gives you a warm fuzzy. once or twice. then it's just annoying and to a degree, condescending. if any changes were going to be made by garrett he has made them. he has his RKG that didn't work and he's taken his chances on the wild side and that failed even moreso. the common denominator here?

garrett.

if you set out to build a plane and it never flies when do you suddenly realize you're just not able to build that damn plane? crash the first year? hell no! that's the fun year! crash the 2nd year? nah. gotta survive and move on. crash the 3rd year? ok, ****** why are these tweaks not working? this is getting frustrating as hell, now i'm even bombarded by the neighbors kids with paper airplanes that fly just fine. OK THIS WILL BE MY HOLY HELL WE'RE GOIN DOWN THE RUNWAY!!! WE'RE OFF THE GROUND WE'RE GONNA

incomplete pass.

while not a crash per se, it certainly wasn't full flight but it did make us think that THIS TIME we got it right.

then the wheels came of. along with the wings. the instrument panel went MIA. someone hurt the holy hell out of our pilot. twice. our backup pilots are getting lessons from the neighbors kids and crashing with merciless glee. hell we have some that pick up the wreckage and throw it to the ground again just to be sure.

ok, enough of that analogy but when? when do you honestly say "good lord dude try running the backhoe for awhile" and make a change? while i can understand, if i force myself hard enough, the need to keep garrett for one more ye...

no i don't to be honest but not my call and whining about it will just get me moved to another zone and my new years resolution says that will only happen 1,438 times this year and i don't want THIS to be one of 'em.

there is no fight in the cowboys. unless who can get off the field first has suddenly become challenging. what is most frustrating is we do have a core of players i'd love to see grow but we more seem a mix of pieces than a team. romo not only is one hell of a qb but he also seems to be the glue to keep things going and while admirable and expected, it's also expected at higher levels and it's just simply not there.

there is no fight in my cowboys these days except for a chosen few who never quit. (collins comes to mind) but what we have is far from a team and without someone to make them one, it will never happen. if what we had today could make this a team, it would have by now.

yet, here we are. crash and burning, not a pretty sight.

and certainly no fight.

funny post lol!
but all the JG supporters say it will fly and fly high real soon!

 

[DandyDon52]

Does it make you feel better to complain about things you can't change?

yes it is like therapy.

 

[cml750]

The NFL is completely different just from the 90's til now. Much less than when Landry was coaching.

Garrett does think that he can win with a 90's mentality but it just makes us predictable and easy to defend.


We'll never consistently out-athlete teams in the Salary cap Era.

We have to be perfect to win consistently with Garrett and it's just not happening.

I'm sick of us trying to build around him and all of his flaws and i'm ready to get a coach that provides something.

 

[cml750]

BS... Gruden got his team to the play-offs in year 2 of his coaching stint without an established QB at the beginning of the season... O Brien as well, without a legit QB... Arians and multiple other coaches..

Romo doesn't need Garrett... Garrett needs Romo... Don't insult Romo and Witten for Garrett...

 

[cml750]

No offense but you see posts like this all over the internet from fans of teams who struggle to admit the realities that face their franchise of choice. It's basically I Am A Better Fan Than You syndrome. In the face of a franchise scuffling and making seemingly poor choice after poor choice resulting in two decades of futility, these fans talk not about those problems but rather want to lecture other fans for not being "fan" enough.

It doesn't "take time" to build a championship level team. Pete Carroll had the Seahawks in the SB in year 4. Harbaugh took over a 49ers franchise stuck in the mud and in his first three years had them in NFC Title games. And in reality................. we are now on Year 20 of a rebuilding project, year 6 under this present head coach. So the notion that it takes all this time to build a championship team is bogus.

In all your examples of teams traversing the low points - Green Bay, Colts and 49ers - you'll note one common thing. They recognized their issues and shortcoming and found a coach who won.

And in all three examples, their coach won a SB or was in a SB within the first 5 years of their tenure. Packers went through much of the 80s and early 90s not even making the playoffs. But they recognized their problems and hired a coach in Holmgren who won a SB in year 4. After he left, they scuffled with Ray Rhodes and Mike Sherman before making another coaching change to mcCarthy, who won a Super Bowl in Year 5.

Colts hired Dungy after churning through coaches. He won a SB by Year 5.

49ers? They did it twice. Struggled until they hired Walsh in 1979 and he won a SB within 3 years. Struggled after Seifert until they hired Harbaugh who had them in 3 straight NFC Title games in his first three years and a SB in Year 2.

The common theme? Coaches that won or got to a SB within 5 years of hiring a new coach. Garrett has failed to reach that threshold. It's time the Jones family end the cycle of shoddy play and look for another coach to lead this franchise. That's my opinion and one that I think isn't outrageous or somehow the antithesis of what a good Cowboys fan should be.

Part of being a "fan" is criticizing your team when things aren't going well. And anyone who denies that this franchise has been basically dormant for 20 years is blind as hell. The common theme throughout that stretch has been poor choices by those in charge. The Cowboys like to hold themselves up as NFL royalty but they've been a bottom of the barrel franchise in terms of on the field success for 20 years. That has to change and it's not changing until the front office realizes they have a coaching problem IMO. It's not about nostalgic feelings, or breeding a winning culture, or developing a winning attitude or allowing your coach to grow and prosper over time. It's about realizing that you have a coach employed that simply isn't good enough to get the Cowboys to where the owner and the fans want them to go. Jones is no infallible, he's not incapable of making bad decisions or even being blind to some of his team's and his own flaws.

We have 20 straight years of results to show that he's very capable of mismanaging the franchise in terms of on the field performance.

Excellent post!!!!!

 

[Beast_from_East]

This coming season will be the most important season in Garrett's career.

If he puts up another 8-8 or worse, then he probably is standing in the unemployment line.

1 playoff appearance in 6.5 yrs is pretty much grounds for dismissal in the NFL.