The irony is mistakes & injuries led to current success

DandyDon52

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I was thinking, and it all started (this current team) with not getting Murray signed before FA, and waiting too long to sign Dez.
Then Season starts, Dez gets injured, then Tony breaks collarbone.
Then the other mistake was having weeden as bkup, then throwing away a draft pick to get Cassel.
Add to that thinking Randle was going to be our star RB.
Also have to say the coaches were not able to win any games with what they had.
Mistake again to bring tony back too soon , thinking he could win what 7 in a row?

This all led to having a top draft pick in not only RD 1 but all rounds, so all those things that led to the
disaster of 2015 put the team in a good position for the draft.

That led to Elliot, and a return of a powerful run game, which if Tony went down again, was
designed to help any bkup win some games, so when Tony comes back they have a chance.

This also led to Dak in a very indirect and lucky way. They liked Dak , but he was way down
on their list of QB's to draft. So the Dak pick was at least 70% luck.
But they did get brown who is playing as a rookie.
So that is 3 Rookies starting the first year, and all are doing very good.
So over all we had a good draft even if it was partly luck.

Had Romo not been injured, none of these rookies might not have been Cowboys !
So This is the irony, Tonys injury (and some mistakes), led to the high draft position,
and the players we now have, and one of those guys just happened to be Super Dak,
who would maybe replace Tony.

Had Tony just threw that ball away before he got sacked, he would not be in his current
situation, and neither would the Cowboys!

So if you like this new team you need to thank Tony, as he was a big factor in it all
happening .

I have to credit JG for wanting a good RB, to get back to what they had with Murray,
and the FO for taking Elliot so high, which many thought was a mistake.
They did pick Dak, even if it was like a after thought, and this cb brown.
And not sure if Swaim is a rookie too, if so add him in.

So overall I have to credit the drafting, even though considerable luck was involved,
and the desire to return to a good run game again.
And getting Dak with that not only 4th round pick, but the compensatory pick !!!!!
Gee glad we had that compensatory pick !
 

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Luck plays a big factor in success.

On the flip side, imagine how everything could suck that shouldn't have.
 

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It is crazy, especially if you think how Dak is the starter:

1. They like Wentz, but don't offer enough to deal with the Browns and so the Eagles do
2. They don't make the deal with Seattle to move up to get Paxton Lynch
3. Oakland jumps them in round 4 and they draft Connor Cook, who was next Dallas target
4. Cowboys like Dak and since they did not get other 3, they draft him with compensatory 4th round pick, hoping they can develop him at some point
5. Backup QB Kellen Moore breaks leg in camp
6. Cowboys want to deal for Josh McCown, but Browns want too much
7. Rams release Nick Foles. He meets with Cowboys, then Chief,s and signs with Chiefs
8. Cowboys informally elevate Dak to back up, based on preseason play
9. Romo goes down in preseason game, lost until mid-season
10. Dak becomes starter and maybe does not look back.
 

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I was thinking, and it all started (this current team) with not getting Murray signed before FA, and waiting too long to sign Dez.
Then Season starts, Dez gets injured, then Tony breaks collarbone.
Then the other mistake was having weeden as bkup, then throwing away a draft pick to get Cassel.
Add to that thinking Randle was going to be our star RB.
Also have to say the coaches were not able to win any games with what they had.
Mistake again to bring tony back too soon , thinking he could win what 7 in a row?

This all led to having a top draft pick in not only RD 1 but all rounds, so all those things that led to the
disaster of 2015 put the team in a good position for the draft.

That led to Elliot, and a return of a powerful run game, which if Tony went down again, was
designed to help any bkup win some games, so when Tony comes back they have a chance.

This also led to Dak in a very indirect and lucky way. They liked Dak , but he was way down
on their list of QB's to draft. So the Dak pick was at least 70% luck.
But they did get brown who is playing as a rookie.
So that is 3 Rookies starting the first year, and all are doing very good.
So over all we had a good draft even if it was partly luck.

Had Romo not been injured, none of these rookies might not have been Cowboys !
So This is the irony, Tonys injury (and some mistakes), led to the high draft position,
and the players we now have, and one of those guys just happened to be Super Dak,
who would maybe replace Tony.

Had Tony just threw that ball away before he got sacked, he would not be in his current
situation, and neither would the Cowboys!

So if you like this new team you need to thank Tony, as he was a big factor in it all
happening .

I have to credit JG for wanting a good RB, to get back to what they had with Murray,
and the FO for taking Elliot so high, which many thought was a mistake.
They did pick Dak, even if it was like a after thought, and this cb brown.
And not sure if Swaim is a rookie too, if so add him in.

So overall I have to credit the drafting, even though considerable luck was involved,
and the desire to return to a good run game again.
And getting Dak with that not only 4th round pick, but the compensatory pick !!!!!
Gee glad we had that compensatory pick !


Life happens. It's what you do when you are down that will determine if you can get back up and be successful again.
 

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in short, life happens and a few bounces went our way, I still thank Kellen Moore for this

Funny you should say that...

I had my Romo jersey on last night when I drove through Chick-Fil-A. The drive-through cashier saw my jersey and asked me who I'd say is the season MVP so far, Dak or Zeke? Without missing a beat, I said "the guy who fell on Kellen Moore's leg".
 

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Injuries = yes

Mistakes = no


Mistakes will do you in even if you have superman as QB qnd RB.
 

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I was thinking, and it all started (this current team) with not getting Murray signed before FA, and waiting too long to sign Dez.
Then Season starts, Dez gets injured, then Tony breaks collarbone.
Then the other mistake was having weeden as bkup, then throwing away a draft pick to get Cassel.
Add to that thinking Randle was going to be our star RB.
Also have to say the coaches were not able to win any games with what they had.
Mistake again to bring tony back too soon , thinking he could win what 7 in a row?

This all led to having a top draft pick in not only RD 1 but all rounds, so all those things that led to the
disaster of 2015 put the team in a good position for the draft.

That led to Elliot, and a return of a powerful run game, which if Tony went down again, was
designed to help any bkup win some games, so when Tony comes back they have a chance.

This also led to Dak in a very indirect and lucky way. They liked Dak , but he was way down
on their list of QB's to draft. So the Dak pick was at least 70% luck.
But they did get brown who is playing as a rookie.
So that is 3 Rookies starting the first year, and all are doing very good.
So over all we had a good draft even if it was partly luck.

Had Romo not been injured, none of these rookies might not have been Cowboys !
So This is the irony, Tonys injury (and some mistakes), led to the high draft position,
and the players we now have, and one of those guys just happened to be Super Dak,
who would maybe replace Tony.

Had Tony just threw that ball away before he got sacked, he would not be in his current
situation, and neither would the Cowboys!

So if you like this new team you need to thank Tony, as he was a big factor in it all
happening .

I have to credit JG for wanting a good RB, to get back to what they had with Murray,
and the FO for taking Elliot so high, which many thought was a mistake.
They did pick Dak, even if it was like a after thought, and this cb brown.
And not sure if Swaim is a rookie too, if so add him in.

So overall I have to credit the drafting, even though considerable luck was involved,
and the desire to return to a good run game again.
And getting Dak with that not only 4th round pick, but the compensatory pick !!!!!
Gee glad we had that compensatory pick !
Well I'm sure the team will be thrilled that you do give them some credit at least.
 

DandyDon52

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It is crazy, especially if you think how Dak is the starter:

1. They like Wentz, but don't offer enough to deal with the Browns and so the Eagles do
2. They don't make the deal with Seattle to move up to get Paxton Lynch
3. Oakland jumps them in round 4 and they draft Connor Cook, who was next Dallas target
4. Cowboys like Dak and since they did not get other 3, they draft him with compensatory 4th round pick, hoping they can develop him at some point
5. Backup QB Kellen Moore breaks leg in camp
6. Cowboys want to deal for Josh McCown, but Browns want too much
7. Rams release Nick Foles. He meets with Cowboys, then Chief,s and signs with Chiefs
8. Cowboys informally elevate Dak to back up, based on preseason play
9. Romo goes down in preseason game, lost until mid-season
10. Dak becomes starter and maybe does not look back.

yes good post, it shows Cowboys had no idea how good Dak would be, he was a last resort.
Thats why I only give them a little credit, because they did notice him and value him more than all the other teams.
Every team in the nfl passed on Dak for 3 whole rounds !! and part of the 4th round.
Bet they are thinking wow how did we miss this guy ??
 

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Well I'm sure the team will be thrilled that you do give them some credit at least.
Well no one with the cowboys reads on this forum, I do give them some credit, but it isnt like they knew Dak would be great,
or that Elliot would not be a bust, or that brown could start this year.
I know the draft is partly luck, so I think they got lucky in 2016.
The most credit I give is for taking EE at the # 4, many teams would not pick a RB that high.
It was a gamble, maybe not a big gamble, but still if EE had been a bust, or blew a knee in TC,
people would go on and on about how stupid it was to use a 4 on a RB.
 

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Funny you should say that...

I had my Romo jersey on last night when I drove through Chick-Fil-A. The drive-through cashier saw my jersey and asked me who I'd say is the season MVP so far, Dak or Zeke? Without missing a beat, I said "the guy who fell on Kellen Moore's leg".
Lol, that's awesome. That's really funny. Get well soon Moore, but still funny
 

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This thread reminds me that Quincy Carter failed a drug test and Parcells cut him and started Vinny Intercepeverde and kept Romo as a 3rd stringer. If Carter didn't do drugs we would have lost Romo. I believe Jerry wanted Hensen and Parcells wanted Romo and Romo stayed on the team and Hensen never played again.
 

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1. They like Wentz, but don't offer enough to deal with the Browns and so the Eagles do
2. They don't make the deal with Seattle to move up to get Paxton Lynch
3. Oakland jumps them in round 4 and they draft Connor Cook, who was next Dallas target
4. Cowboys like Dak and since they did not get other 3, they draft him with compensatory 4th round pick, hoping they can develop him at some point
Helps make up for SF trading in front of us to take Joe Montana.
 
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