The Jason Garrett Love Affair...

[vta]

The love affair with this guy has to simmer down. People talking about dumping Wade, because of the misguided notion that a kid with no experience is going to do so much better is bordering on insane.

The two together have this team at 13-3, and the top seat in the playoffs. Obviously they're doing something good together, but despite a natural inclination on the part of Garrett to run an offense, this is hardly a concrete confirmation that he could handle such a responsibility as head coach. Let's see Norv Turner for how well that notion fits. I don't care where he has SD at the moment, his history says he's God-awful.

We can only hope Garrett himself is not so fickle and understands his nature might need some nurturing, in the form of learned experience and not go off half-cocked thinking he can coach a team to the Super Bowl based on one season of good coordinating.

Slow down Cowboy fans. There's plenty of reason to continue enjoying the 2007 season as it stretches into the playoffs.

 

[theogt]

Lately...

our defense > our offense

Just saying.

 

[vta]

Lately...

our defense > our offense

Just saying.

That's true too and I knowingly left it out. Our offense over the last 3 games has been nothing stellar. Yet no one is calling for Garrett to be axed... they shouldn't, of course.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I agree, running an O is entirely different from running a team

but Garrett is a bright guy who can make everyone buy into what he's selling

 

[WoodysGirl]

I liken Garret to Jack Del Rio's rise in the coaching ranks. I think he had just as little coaching experience as Garrett. Tomlin had one year of coordinating experience before taking over Pittsburgh. Mangini had only one year of coordinating experience. Sometimes people are just good at what they do and has the capacity to take the next step.

Either way, I'm more concerned if the 'boys lose both Sparano and Garrett. I'm not sure the 'boys can afford to lose both on offense at the same time. But if they do, then I think the 'boys need to start looking at somebody who can run the offense. Ray Sherman, maybe? Tho I do recall him not getting good reviews as an OC.

 

[Boysboy]

I agree, running an O is entirely different from running a team

but Garrett is a bright guy who can make everyone buy into what he's selling

Andy Reid was never a coordinator, FWIW-but nonetheless, he still sucks as a playcaller, and even worse a poor game clock manager.:laugh1:

 

[theogt]

I liken Garret to Jack Del Rio's rise in the coaching ranks. I think he had just as little coaching experience as Garrett. Tomlin had one year of coordinating experience before taking over Pittsburgh. Mangini had only one year of coordinating experience. Sometimes people are just good at what they do and has the capacity to take the next step.

Either way, I'm more concerned if the 'boys lose both Sparano and Garrett. I'm not sure the 'boys can afford to lose both on offense at the same time. But if they do, then I think the 'boys need to start looking at somebody who can run the offense. Ray Sherman, maybe? Tho I do recall him not getting good reviews as an OC.

Yeah, I don't see Jerry getting caught with his pants down like that.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I liken Garret to Jack Del Rio's rise in the coaching ranks. I think he had just as little coaching experience as Garrett. Tomlin had one year of coordinating experience before taking over Pittsburgh. Mangini had only one year of coordinating experience. Sometimes people are just good at what they do and has the capacity to take the next step.

Either way, I'm more concerned if the 'boys lose both Sparano and Garrett. I'm not sure the 'boys can afford to lose both on offense at the same time. But if they do, then I think the 'boys need to start looking at somebody who can run the offense. Ray Sherman, maybe? Tho I do recall him not getting good reviews as an OC.

you either have it, or you don't

and it would suck to lose Sparano AND Garrett

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Andy Reid was never a coordinator, FWIW-but nonetheless, he still sucks as a playcaller, and even worse a poor game clock manager.:laugh1:

he's a pretty good coach

 

[RCowboyFan]

I liken Garret to Jack Del Rio's rise in the coaching ranks. I think he had just as little coaching experience as Garrett. Tomlin had one year of coordinating experience before taking over Pittsburgh. Mangini had only one year of coordinating experience. Sometimes people are just good at what they do and has the capacity to take the next step.

Either way, I'm more concerned if the 'boys lose both Sparano and Garrett. I'm not sure the 'boys can afford to lose both on offense at the same time. But if they do, then I think the 'boys need to start looking at somebody who can run the offense. Ray Sherman, maybe? Tho I do recall him not getting good reviews as an OC.

I think he was with Detroit when he was OC, Ray Sherman that is, Joey Harriongton Era. But everything has been a disaster in Detroit for about 10 years now.

Either way, I don't think it would be conducive to winning to lose both of them. I doubt both will be gone. I just have this feeling Garrett rather stay with Cowboys than take the disasters in Atlanta or Miami. Besides, I think Sparano would be ideal candidate for Parcells in Miami.

Its a disaster in Baltimore too, I just don't see why Garrett would go there either. Aging Defense, no QB. But I guess of the three, Baltimore would be the best of the worst jobs though.

 

[The Panch]

I agree. He's constantly showing his inexperience these past weeks when things are going wrong.

 

[vta]

I liken Garret to Jack Del Rio's rise in the coaching ranks. I think he had just as little coaching experience as Garrett. Tomlin had one year of coordinating experience before taking over Pittsburgh. Mangini had only one year of coordinating experience. Sometimes people are just good at what they do and has the capacity to take the next step.

Either way, I'm more concerned if the 'boys lose both Sparano and Garrett. I'm not sure the 'boys can afford to lose both on offense at the same time. But if they do, then I think the 'boys need to start looking at somebody who can run the offense. Ray Sherman, maybe? Tho I do recall him not getting good reviews as an OC.

I don't want to lose Garrett either; I like him as coordinator. Garrett's obivously a bright, football guy, with his head in the X's and O's. I'd like to see him do great and do it in Dallas, I'd just rather not see him or anyone (that means Jerry) be as fickle as a fan and jump on the hot thing of the moment.

 

[vta]

Andy Reid was never a coordinator, FWIW-but nonetheless, he still sucks as a playcaller, and even worse a poor game clock manager.:laugh1:

We can hate Philly all we want, but Reid's a very good coach and he took the team pretty high. Not Dallas Cowboy high, but high none the less.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I can see why people like Garrett given his education, his time in the league and he turned a good '06 Dallas offense into a great '07 Dallas offense. Still, looking at it logically...I'm surprised so many owners are interested in a guy with such little experience. I'm surprised that Garrett is getting so much consideration over Cleveland OC Rob Chudzinski who turned a miserable Browns offense into a good one despite starting the season with Charlie Frye.

If there's a silver lining to this is that if you really research teams, they usually don't get worse if all they do is change coaches. Contrary to popular belief, teams that go on the downturn are usually due to injuries, players leaving, and the team not being able to find suitable replacements.

The Cowboys are a perfect example. Many critics thought Dallas would struggle this year given the new coaching staff, but instead the team greatly improved because they were able to keep their core players and they found replacements for holes on the team (FS and RG with Hamlin and Bigg).

I'd like to see Garrett stay and then become HC when Wade is done. But if he goes I don't see it as the end of the world.





YAKUZA

 

[Yakuza Rich]

We can hate Philly all we want, but Reid's a very good coach and he took the team pretty high. Not Dallas Cowboy high, but high none the less.

Well if there's one team that has ever been "carried" by a coordinator, you have to wonder what Reid's record would be if Jim Johnson was not the D-Coordinator.




YAKUZA

 

[chinch]

for sure

garrett got schooled almost every game in Nov/Dec and seemed to hit a wall.

he's looking more like Norv_v2.0 or MikeMartz_v2.0 than someone i'd want to run my club anytime soon.

YMMV

The love affair with this guy has to simmer down. People talking about dumping Wade, because of the misguided notion that a kid with no experience is going to do so much better is bordering on insane.

The two together have this team at 13-3, and the top seat in the playoffs. Obviously they're doing something good together, but despite a natural inclination on the part of Garrett to run an offense, this is hardly a concrete confirmation that he could handle such a responsibility as head coach. Let's see Norv Turner for how well that notion fits. I don't care where he has SD at the moment, his history says he's God-awful.

We can only hope Garrett himself is not so fickle and understands his nature might need some nurturing, in the form of learned experience and not go off half-cocked thinking he can coach a team to the Super Bowl based on one season of good coordinating.

Slow down Cowboy fans. There's plenty of reason to continue enjoying the 2007 season as it stretches into the playoffs.

 

[windward]

I liken Garret to Jack Del Rio's rise in the coaching ranks. I think he had just as little coaching experience as Garrett. Tomlin had one year of coordinating experience before taking over Pittsburgh. Mangini had only one year of coordinating experience. Sometimes people are just good at what they do and has the capacity to take the next step.

Either way, I'm more concerned if the 'boys lose both Sparano and Garrett. I'm not sure the 'boys can afford to lose both on offense at the same time. But if they do, then I think the 'boys need to start looking at somebody who can run the offense. Ray Sherman, maybe? Tho I do recall him not getting good reviews as an OC.

Del Rio had six years as an assistant, two as a coordinator, before being hired as Jacksonville's coach. Garret has only been a coach three years.

 

[windward]

for sure

garrett got schooled almost every game in Nov/Dec and seemed to hit a wall.

he's looking more like Norv_v2.0 or MikeMartz_v2.0 than someone i'd want to run my club anytime soon.

YMMV

In which game in November was Garrett "schooled"?
The one where we scored 38, 31, 28, 34 or 37 points in?

 

[Bach]

In which game in November was Garrett "schooled"?
The one where we scored 38, 31, 28, 34 or 37 points in?

Those were "October" games

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I can see why people like Garrett given his education, his time in the league and he turned a good '06 Dallas offense into a great '07 Dallas offense. Still, looking at it logically...I'm surprised so many owners are interested in a guy with such little experience. I'm surprised that Garrett is getting so much consideration over Cleveland OC Rob Chudzinski who turned a miserable Browns offense into a good one despite starting the season with Charlie Frye.

If there's a silver lining to this is that if you really research teams, they usually don't get worse if all they do is change coaches. Contrary to popular belief, teams that go on the downturn are usually due to injuries, players leaving, and the team not being able to find suitable replacements.

The Cowboys are a perfect example. Many critics thought Dallas would struggle this year given the new coaching staff, but instead the team greatly improved because they were able to keep their core players and they found replacements for holes on the team (FS and RG with Hamlin and Bigg).

I'd like to see Garrett stay and then become HC when Wade is done. But if he goes I don't see it as the end of the world.

Well said.

I don't want to lose both Sparano and Garrett, but if we lost just one, I think we'd be fine.

And even if we lost both of them, I bet Cam Cameron would barely miss a beat.

If Sparano goes, I'm more concerned with finding a good OL coach... Wonder if Ireland/Parcells would keep Houck.