The Minnesota game was Embarrassing, Jerry!

[tromofan]

I can get on board with most of your post, it solid thinking,

except for one thing you're not getting rid of Jake Ferguson he just signed a long-term deal which by the way usually new money doesn't start till the following year which means next year he has a dead cap hit you're not cutting Jake Ferguson What they could do is develop Ford or Fairweather or somebody else and need a guy who can run the seams and that when they come in you need to change a pace tight end somebody that does something a little different they don't need to be a starter same with the backup running back you need one of them to be different than your starter we need a guy with a little more speed and maybe Blue maybe Mafah somebody develops there but I think you're way off thinking they could just move on from Jake Ferguson it's not happening settling in your mind he's starting next year..

Let me be clear this is not a debate teams cannot move on from a player in their first year of their new money on the new deal because too much bonus money has been spread out already meaning he's prepaid for you'd be cutting him just to spite yourself and let it paying him the play elsewhere and eating more of your cap so you can't replace him no it doesn't make sense you can't do that..


Is a good solid starting possession tight end he's doing what he's asked to do I don't believe they have the offense set up for tight ends to be bigger producers meaning they're not running a lot of seam routes they're not asking him to do a lot but yes we need a guy in development under a rookie deal or a small contract that can do the things that Jake can't so whenever they use a 12 package or a 13 personnel or just when they decide to use the number two that they can run some seam routes they they can have some more yak I get that..

I apologize, I didn’t realize Jake’s’ contract situation.

 

[RonWashington]

Id be all for that, and maybe the cap space for Walker comes from Steele as a June cut. Either is fine. But if we can make these fixes in FA, then we can focus on fixing the defence. That's what we need.

I thought the whole letting Parsons walk was giving Jerry cap space for 2026 FA. He better be aggressive and smart with the $ . I would not cut Steele he’s a capable depth T in the NFL and with this horrible 17 games schedule players drop like flies . You need depth

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I thought the whole letting Parsons walk was giving Jerry cap space for 2026 FA. He better be aggressive and smart with the $ . I would not cut Steele he’s a capable depth T in the NFL and with this horrible 17 games schedule players drop like flies . You need depth

I agree with you about Parsons. And that's fair about Steele. I think signing Walker is good. Then it just depends on what we do with Pickens. If we tag and trade, great. If we sign him, great. If we can tag and trade, then we probably get an extra first. So, that frees us up to sign a pass rusher as well as Walker. Do that, and all of a sudden, we have a lot of quality picks.

 

[blueblood70]

I don’t trust Jerry to get rid of Eberflus either.

Look how long we were stuck with Garrett. About 6 years to long!

First of all, that's a huge difference between a player who is like a adopted son to Jerry, and Garrett he was here during the heyday years, Jerry was hoping he became the next Jimmie Johnson, some homegrown guy, who had a lot of latitude.

So, there are two differences, one we're talking about a head coach who should get more time and second Garreatt had stronger ties, I don't care what Matt did during the parcel's years or wherever he whenever he was here, he has not been part of any glory years..

That's the case why didn't he bring Mike Zimmer back, mike Zimmer had a better run here with the Cowboys then Matt Eber poo, Matt has no strong ties that Jerry would give him some big break.

the head coach for sure should get another shot, but a defensive coordinator he let Mike Nolan go, he easily can let Matt go he's already seeing it ,he just said well we'll see what these next three games, now Jerry's already made up his mind, and now Matt has to change it ,but Matt's already gone in Jerry's mind, But for some reason Jerry doesn't like change, so he's hoping that Matt changes his spots in three games, I don't think he should have gave him that vote of confidence, but that's what he meant....

Yeah, those are apples and oranges,

Garrett was an entirely different animal... ,

And he moved on from Mike Mccarthy, I mean if anybody deserved to stay around another year it could have been him his first year and last year were both full of injuries He was on a lame duck contract, but those three years prior; 36 wins ; 3 straight playoff appearances, I mean two division titles, if Jerry was going to play favorites, and want to have a guy stick around, it would have been Mike Mccarthy ,and they let him go...

I think Jerry is not only shocked but embarrassed and I'll say it when he made that statement we'll see what happens these last three games on our coaching decisions he already made up his mind ,now he's telling Matt that was a signal to all the defensive staff you better do something the last three games, you guys are already gone..

I'm with you on the aspect jerry doesn't like change after one year, but he's done it ,he's also cut players like Jalen Smith in the middle of a brand new contract in the middle of a season, let alone the end of a season ,he is capable ,and has done it,

but I'm with you I know there's a small chance he finds a way to convince himself matt needs another year.


here's my hope, Brian Schottenheimer behind closed doors is very adamant about how he doesn't want Matt here next year and that Matt can't do what he needs to to have a successful team in 26..

I feel that Brian Sottenheimer truly doesn't want Matt here, like you all say like he was forced on Brian ,then why not go behind closed doors and really tell Jerry things aren't going to work out next year if you keep Matt around, I need something different, give him a list of names let Jerry feel like it's his choice, but it Brian Schottenheimer does his job, if he truly does, we do not know his true feelings,

You all guess a lot but that doesn't mean that's how he feels, but if he truly doesn't want him here, I think Jerry will listen to him because I don't think Jerry is that sold on Matt, that if his head coach says ,I don't want him here ,and he's very vocal about it ,I believe he'll move on..

What are some crazy hypothetical scenario Matt EberPOO isn't here just because of Jerry and maybe Brian likes him, we don't know what's going on in their heads...

 

[DStar22]

I think you are incorrect about our offense as we put as many points as some good teams (Seattle, Green Bay and the eagles) put up against their defense.

Our defense however, allowed them to play like superstars.

 

[RonWashington]

Coming out in the draft, Thomas was projected to move inside to guard. I still think that's where he belongs and he will probably be pretty solid there. But Dallas has Bass and Hoffman and they drafted Booker so Thomas has no place to go but OT. If Bass leaves in free agency after this season, and I think he will, I will get Dallas moves Thomas to a backup Guard position.

I also agree. Richards maybe bee the better option for backup LT, but he's a backup in New Orleans right now.

I am curious to see how Cornelius does next year. Regardless, I think the Cowboys must get an OT to replace Steele and find a better backup than Thomas. I would not be shocked if the Cowboys wind up using their 1st round pick on an OT.

Go after Rasheed Walker Packers off season FA . Move Guyton to the RT spot . If nothing else Thomas exposure to T in the NFL makes him a depth Tackle & Guard . Keep Steele as depth you already got rid of Asim Richards , injuries happen need depth .

 

[Creeper]

Go after Rasheed Walker Packers off season FA . Move Guyton to the RT spot . If nothing else Thomas exposure to T in the NFL makes him a depth Tackle & Guard . Keep Steele as depth you already got rid of Asim Richards , injuries happen need depth .

Steele is too expensive for a backup player.

 

[RonWashington]

Steele is too expensive for a backup player.

Then you’re back to square one you need a starter next year and if Steele is cut you also need depth .

 

[Tabascocat]

Lizards don’t get embarrassed.

 

[CowboyFanInLexKy]

You make some great points. Tyler Smith at LT, Guyton should be tried at RT. Steele should be sent packing. We had a chance to find out if Bass can handle a starting role at Guard and didn't and now he is a F.A.

Shotty was outcoached and unable to adjust. This offense clicked best when passing on non obvious passing downs throughout the year but in a win or out game decided to be as predictable as possible.

The defense was predictable and frustrating all year long and never adjusted other than adding a couple of players at the trade deadline.

Start over with an entirely new coaching staff and blow up this roster. I am so envious of the teams with young up and coming QB's with solid defenses that you can see improving quickly. Denver and New England come immediately to mind.

Though, that would make perfect sense (I totally agree with this) it will never happen. That would mean Jerry was wrong ad we can't have that....

 

[FVSTONE]

We had 3 extra days rest. We were playing at home. We had just gotten embarrassed by Detroit. We had to have this win to have a realistic chance to make the playoffs. Minnesota’s QB had played like one of the worst starting QB’s in the league during the season. We had everything to play for, Minnesota not so much.

So what happens: Minnesota out plays us in all 3 phases AND we get out coached in the 2 most important phases, Offense and Defense.
I was most disappointed in Shotty and his Offense. I thought he would have better answers for Flores and his 7-8 man fronts. Like last week, Dak was under constant pressure. Dak and the offense were forced to attempt long field goal, after long field goal because they couldn’t convert 3rd downs vs Flores confusing scheme. We should have thrown the ball more on running downs with max protection, to allow are QB more time to pass, and excellent receivers more time to get open. Dak was constantly getting rid of the ball very quickly! Shotty could have helped out by changing the protections, and throwing on early downs more, and throwing the ball down field. Where was the slant and go to Pickens?
I will give some credit to Flores and his confusing D. He made us look bad on a lot of 3rd downs!

Our D was NOT surprising. Predictable and vanilla! A decent, even below decent QB, like Minnesota’s can thrive vs our D. How much did Carson get beat by on the “GO”
route, 7 yards. Our defensive players under Eberflus do not do their own job. On the bootleg our stupid LBer Liafou did not contain. Williams did not contain on the QB rollout when their QB throw the TD.

***This game was a perfect game to compare a basic vanilla defense, that is stationary before the snap, and predictable after the snap, to a defense that has a bunch of pre snap movement, and is not predictable after the snap. Also all the players are on the same page doing THEIR job!!!!!!!

Lastly, coaching MATTERS a LOT!!
We must have a DC like Flores. Send Eberflus packing.
Also, I am not sold on Shotty either. His pass protection schemes have been very shaky the last few weeks. It does no good to have, 3 awesome receivers when the QB has very little time to throw. He needs to help his mediocre tackles more, or move guys around( Bass at guard and Tyler Smith at OT). Why isn’t Tyler Smith playing tackle. He is better than any tackle we have. He has proven it!!!!

Any thoughts?

It was a piss poor game at best for the lowly Cowboys and as Don would say, " Turnout the lights, the party is over"!

 

[jblaze2004]

We were out coached on both sides of the ball. Which is pretty telling.

I hope we aren't expecting Schotty to get better. Ya'll do remember he has been a OC for like 15 years lol. He is what he is by now. I can see him hopefully improving with his ingame management. But man we suck a preparing for teams and it has shown almost all season. That starts with the coaching staff.

 

[stuckindc]

Bend but don't break defenses don't put QBs on their backside. Ours is simply embarrassing to watch.

Sadly we bend and break!

 

[Killerinstinct]

Sadly we bend and break!

Good point. The bend AND break defense about sums it up.

 

[Ironicalicon]

Remove the comma between embarrassing and Jerry and I'd be happy. Still have 3 games to go. JUST LOSE BABY!

 

[America's Cowboy]

The last couple years, prior to this year, I was not happy with Dak’s play vs the better teams. I felt even with mediocre blocking, he could have played better.

This year, considering the mediocre blocking he is getting he is playing good in general. Dak is not the problem this year!!!! He has had some really good games. Definitely a top 10 QB this year.

Also,I wish Dak would have taken a little less money, and not bargained so hard to be the highest paid player. There are huge expectations for the highest paid player. We could have taken the 6-12 million in savings and picked up a good player in Free Agency. Dak could have easily made that money up doing advertisements. If he’s not on Dallas quaranteed he’s not doing as many advertisements.

100% agreed.

 

[Swagger]

They're not playing one on one basketball. Was their rookie quarterback facing the same exact defense that Dak was facing?? So trying to compare what one quarterback did vs another quarterback facing a worse defense doesn't make sense.

BUT..... let's play that game, im cool with using your logic, so watch this.....

Dak isn't elite, we all agree, correct???

So using your logic makes Dak look pretty good, because Dak isn't elite, yet Dak outplayed two elite Superbowl quarterbacks and beat them both within 4 days. Dak beat two quarterbacks that he was an underdog to.

So how does Dak, a non elite quarterback beat an elite Jalen Hurts who has two of the best receivers, the best offensive line and the best running in the league?

How does Dak, a NON ELITE quarterback beat an elite,arguably the greatest quarterback to have ever lived named Patrick Mahomes who has one of the best tight ends in history and arguably the greatest head coach in history named Andy Reid???

We can do this all day.....

The Eagles beat the Patriots in the Superbowl so that makes Nick Foles a better quarterback than Tom Brady by your logic...

The Eagles do not have the best offensive line or running game in the NFL this season and they had a huge turnover in defensive players. Like the Chiefs, they aren't the same force as last season.

 

[KingCorcoran]

We had 3 extra days rest. We were playing at home. We had just gotten embarrassed by Detroit. We had to have this win to have a realistic chance to make the playoffs. Minnesota’s QB had played like one of the worst starting QB’s in the league during the season. We had everything to play for, Minnesota not so much.

So what happens: Minnesota out plays us in all 3 phases AND we get out coached in the 2 most important phases, Offense and Defense.
I was most disappointed in Shotty and his Offense. I thought he would have better answers for Flores and his 7-8 man fronts. Like last week, Dak was under constant pressure. Dak and the offense were forced to attempt long field goal, after long field goal because they couldn’t convert 3rd downs vs Flores confusing scheme. We should have thrown the ball more on running downs with max protection, to allow are QB more time to pass, and excellent receivers more time to get open. Dak was constantly getting rid of the ball very quickly! Shotty could have helped out by changing the protections, and throwing on early downs more, and throwing the ball down field. Where was the slant and go to Pickens?
I will give some credit to Flores and his confusing D. He made us look bad on a lot of 3rd downs!

Our D was NOT surprising. Predictable and vanilla! A decent, even below decent QB, like Minnesota’s can thrive vs our D. How much did Carson get beat by on the “GO”
route, 7 yards. Our defensive players under Eberflus do not do their own job. On the bootleg our stupid LBer Liafou did not contain. Williams did not contain on the QB rollout when their QB throw the TD.

***This game was a perfect game to compare a basic vanilla defense, that is stationary before the snap, and predictable after the snap, to a defense that has a bunch of pre snap movement, and is not predictable after the snap. Also all the players are on the same page doing THEIR job!!!!!!!

Lastly, coaching MATTERS a LOT!!
We must have a DC like Flores. Send Eberflus packing.
Also, I am not sold on Shotty either. His pass protection schemes have been very shaky the last few weeks. It does no good to have, 3 awesome receivers when the QB has very little time to throw. He needs to help his mediocre tackles more, or move guys around( Bass at guard and Tyler Smith at OT). Why isn’t Tyler Smith playing tackle. He is better than any tackle we have. He has proven it!!!!

Any thoughts?

I think Jerry Jones’ reputation precedes him. Good coaches want autonomy. They want the authority to run the team as they see fit. Lesser coaches that do not have better choices will accept a job with the Cowboys. Guys like Flores have been around long enough to know better than to work for the Dallas Cowboys.

The reality is Jerry is lucky to have Schottenheimer and Eberflus. And he knows it. Cowboys fans think quality coaches are straining at the leash to be with the Cowboys organization. They’re not. It’s not a desirable organization to work for if you’re serious about your coaching career.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Tackle is an acute problem with this offense . You invested heavy draft capital in Guyton but he misses stretches of the season both last year and this year . Steele is a journeyman at best ,he’s really depth . Thomas was drafted round 7 for a reason and it’s showing .

With defense in the gutter and needing the draft picks the solution is dip into FA maybe get a Rasheed Walker the Packer to come over . For some reason they decided to trade Asim Richards who if nothing else provided depth . It all starts up front .

Yea I don’t really want them to draft anyone. Just figure something out . Run it back

 

[Captain43Crash]

Remove the comma between embarrassing and Jerry and I'd be happy. Still have 3 games to go. JUST LOSE BABY!

Yes! And root for GB to implode without Micah. If they completely collapse and Detroit wins out, Detroit can over take them for the last playoff spot. We would get a much better draft pick!