The misfortune of seeing the writing on the wall

[Hook'em#11]

Down on Jason Garrett?

Welcome to 2 years ago.. And Yes, it starts with Jones. He needs to go.

 

[Risen Star]

getting rid of Garret amounts to throwing out the baby with the bath water.

the real problem with this team is the guys in charge of Garret. until something is fixed there, I suggest we hold onto the only professional with class in the entire front office.

Agreed but look at it this way. If we know the issue at the top isn't going away don't you at least want a head coach that makes him uncomfortable like Parcells did? Garrett's not the problem but he's also not the solution while this front office is intact. So I believe our best possible shot right now is a head coach with serious NFL skins on the wall. Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren. Someone of that ilk who Jerry feels he must respect.

 

[Miller]

First off, good post by the OP. Agree with most of it except maybe Gruden being the guy.

Secondly, it cracks me up that people say Garrett isn't responsible for dropped balls and the defense yet they said all off season that he was the one running the team and hiring the new D Coordinators. That is fingerprints were on this team, not Jerry. All of a sudden that is out the window. No accountability. Something that has plagued this team for years.

 

[Doomsday101]

Here we go again, last week it was Callahan offense now it is Garrett offense. You guys really need to make up your mind because this BS of taking a great outing and saying that was Callahan but then saying this outing was Garrett is pretty damn lame. Lets see it was Callahan week 1 and week 3 but Garrett on week 2 and week 4? LOL

 

[ohiocowboysfan25]

Those of you that keep saying Jerry is to blame I agree but that's not going to change and by mentioning that he's the problem you're stating the obvious. Jerry isn't going anywhere and either is his family so the only thing that will keep changing is coaching and player personnel. I believe that this team has to win in spite of Jerry because if we think they'll win because of him that'd be a mistake. When it comes to the current coaching staff the only one that's been here for awhile is JG so since we still aren't playing very good he's the only one left to blame.

 

[Vtwin]

Do you all think Garrett is more of a "this is the system we are going to run regardless" kind of guy or more of a "these are the players we have so let's devise a system to play to their strengths" kind of guy? He seems like the first to me and that is not a good way to be in today's NFL.

Even if Callahan is calling the plays I don't think Garrett turned the entire offense over to him to do as he pleases. What kind of HC would put his fate entirely in the hands of his subordinate.

As high as everyone was last week I could not shake the game altering, same old same old mistakes that cost the KC game. Yea, yea tough venue, one point loss against a good team in a hard place to play and all that. Good teams don't go backwards on first and goal inside the ten. Again and again and again and again and again.

Much improved o-line this year. Romo playing great and not turning the ball over.

.500 after 4 games with both losses being very winnable games.

 

[Carolina Cowboy]

Starts at the top, ends at the top. One constant since 1996 - No Jimmy fingerprints, all Jerry smudges. With the exception of a brief Parcels interlude in which we actually started being a football team first, it's just a different Sunday with the same Cowboys' stink. I'm very much in line with the OP, but firmly believe NOTHING changes until Jerry is done. He simply can't help himself and I will leave it at that.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Agreed but look at it this way. If we know the issue at the top isn't going away don't you at least want a head coach that makes him uncomfortable like Parcells did? Garrett's not the problem but he's also not the solution while this front office is intact. So I believe our best possible shot right now is a head coach with serious NFL skins on the wall. Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren. Someone of that ilk who Jerry feels he must respect.

Gruden is a clown show. That hire would be a disaster waiting to happen

 

[Chocolate Lab]

getting rid of Garret amounts to throwing out the baby with the bath water.

the real problem with this team is the guys in charge of Garret. until something is fixed there, I suggest we hold onto the only professional with class in the entire front office.

I don't understand this. For years now I've seen people talk about Garrett as if he were some kind of saint as a human being. While I'm sure he's a decent enough guy, did Phillips or Campo or Gailey lack "class"? What was wrong with them as people? Who says a Holmgren or Gruden or David Shaw or whoever else doesn't have class? (And for that matter, what's wrong with Tom Ciskowski's character?)

This is the Dallas Cowboys, one of the premier franchises in all of sports. How about we just hire the best football coach we possibly can and forget the meaningless window dressing?

 

[khiladi]

Like you I've been on the JG downslope ever since the 5-3 hopeful start to finish out 2010. I've seen nothing since then. Proves 2010 was just playing pressure free.

And that is deceptive... Look at the TOs produced by defense between the time JG took over and prior that season. And look at how many TOs the offense was stll producing with Kitna as QB and still going way conservative.

Further, according to the defenders on here about JG not coaching defense, then by their logic, they can't give him credit for that season either...

 

[khiladi]

This idea that Jerry Jones has been in the way of JG is utter garbage as well. This was a guy with 2 years experience as a QB coach, before he got the job of any person's dreams. JJ has been all for JG succeeding, bringin in his brothers and the coaches and players he wanted. JGs success would make Jerry, in his own eyes, redeemed with respect to getting credit that he didn't get when JJ was the HC. JG brother was made passing game coordinator the yea prior to his being 'allowed leave'.

JJ has kept him, while he fired Brian Stewart after 1 pathetic season as DC. He did not afford Wade the oppurtunity to groom Brian Stewart as the DC, but he has given JG all the time in the world to make mistakes. Additionally, he forced Wade Phillips to actually coach the defense and not oversee the HC operations. JG was removed as OC to focus solely on HC when he failed as OC. I'm sure Wade didn't want Campo as secondary coach nor dd he want Houck as OL coach.

How anybody makes the claim JG is being interfered with by JJ is utterly absurd. Wade was interfered with. Jason just sucked and forced JJs hand.

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

Jason Garret is not the issue. He's just another of a long line of failed coaches.

The cancer starts from the top.

17 years of the same BS. One man in charge.

I agree that Jerry is the core problem. But I agree with OP that Garrett makes the problem worse. Other than his overall won-loss record over the years, there is one telling point that proves to me he is a poor head coach: we consistently lose the battle of halftime adjustments. That is where true coaches prove their mettle. Tom Landry. Joe Gibbs. Bill Bellicheck. All of them were able to diagnose the problems with their teams during the heat of the battle and come out stronger in the second half. Under Garrett, we routinely come out weaker in the second half and make few adjustments. = Poor X's and O's coach with little creativity.

 

[kruddy]

Jerry Jones cannot recognize talent..........I.E. Sean Payton, Dan Reeves left after a week I knew then we were doomed.

 

[erod]

Garrett inherited a rebuilding project. Of course they didn't call it that, but there are only 17 players left from the day he took over as head coach. That is no accident.

He finally has a roster that should win a division. Let's watch this play out.

Perhaps he's one draft and offseason away from a Super Bowl contender.

Stay the course.

 

[erod]

Jerry Jones cannot recognize talent..........I.E. Sean Payton, Dan Reeves left after a week I knew then we were doomed.

If Sean Payton didn't have Drew Brees, he would have been fired a LONG time ago. Miami declined to sign Brees because of his shoulder injury, and Payton got lucky.

 

[bark]

Or make WR's drop the ball.

No tony does that.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

Garrett inherited a rebuilding project. Of course they didn't call it that, but there are only 17 players left from the day he took over as head coach. That is no accident.

He finally has a roster that should win a division. Let's watch this play out.

Perhaps he's one draft and offseason away from a Super Bowl contender.

Stay the course.

Yawn. He inherited a team that won its first playoff game in 14 years not even 6 months before. Tired of the excuses. Produce. Now. He is still relying on an aging core that was put into place by the previous regime.

 

[kruddy]

Can anyone tell me why Dan Reeves did not stay as an advisor, I didn't think so.................

 

[17yearsandcounting]

You are not rebuilding when you give a 33 year old $100+ Million. Tiiiiired of the excuse brigade.

 

[kruddy]

If Sean Payton didn't have Drew Brees, he would have been fired a LONG time ago. Miami declined to sign Brees because of his shoulder injury, and Payton got lucky.

Payton also wanted to take Romo with him.............