The next guy who blames T.O

[5Countem5]

5Countem5.

Who do you believe was responsible for being involved in a totally unnecessary media event which drew totally unnecessary attention to the team?

TO was...

Can you tell me what were the ramifications of this heinous activity ...

 

[30yrheel]

the mere fact that us fans and the media go on and on and on about one guy, one player who is past his prime, shows you what a distraction he is.

 

[5Countem5]

the mere fact that us fans and the media go on and on and on about one guy, one player who is past his prime, shows you what a distraction he is.

Your distractions don't matter...

 

[lewpac]

If Owens, as calm and as cool as he was (I saw the interview) had said something other than "I just love Tony and Wade and Jerry and ALL IS WELL"......and if that's enough to "distract" this team and cause "chemistry" problems tantamount to losing..........................then this team has more problems than Dr. Laura could straighten out.

 

[DallasEast]

TO was...

Can you tell me what were the ramifications of this heinous activity ...

Heinous?

:laugh2:

The Dallas Cowboys have always receive media attention. Some good. Some bad. The ramification of Owens not doing the interview would have been the subtraction of that totally unnecessarily negative media attention. If you're going to attract negative media attention anyway, why... intentionally... create... more? What was the benefit?

Owens "exposed" the problems of the offense to the public via the media. To use your own word, what was the proven ramification to the team which positively benefitted the team in '08? And finally, in your opinion, could he have achieved the same goal by going to the coaches privately instead of to the press?

 

[5Countem5]

Heinous?

:laugh2:

The Dallas Cowboys have always receive media attention. Some good. Some bad. The ramification of Owens not doing the interview would have been the subtraction of that totally unnecessarily negative media attention. If you're going to attract negative media attention anyway, why... intentionally... create... more? What was the benefit?

Owens "exposed" the problems of the offense to the public via the media. To use your own word, what was the proven ramification to the team which positively benefitted the team in '08? And finally, in your opinion, could he have achieved the same goal by going to the coaches privately instead of to the press?

Stop dancing around the question.

What did it hurt? Did it cost Dallas the season? Did it cause Tony some heartache? Garrett? What was the result?

Who does "negative media attention" effect besides you?

 

[DallasEast]

If Owens, as calm and as cool as he was (I saw the interview) had said something other than "I just love Tony and Wade and Jerry and ALL IS WELL"......and if that's enough to "distract" this team and cause "chemistry" problems tantamount to losing..........................then this team has more problems than Dr. Laura could straighten out.

Without a doubt, Owens fully understands the consequences of speaking with the media. Knowing this, what did he himself believe will result by willingly interacting with the media in a one-on-one format with Deion Sanders? What? Less media scrutiny? More favorable media evaluation? A cure for a struggling offense? The last possibility is the most incredulous to assume. The only cure for a struggling offense is through teamwork, practice, execution and coaching inventiveness--none of which can be accomplished via a individual media propaganda campaign.

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

I can't believe this thread is still going on. When I clicked the link, there were 222 responses. Incredible.

TO, the player, is a valuable aspect to this team. He had a phenomenal year last year, and a sub-par year in '08. Yes he went over 1K yards and 10 TDs, but he was nowhere near the force this year he was last.

Here's how TO has affected this team:
• BP left the team because Jerry had his toy and the Tuna had no say in it. He didn't like the player or what he brought to the team. All the right things were said while he was here, but he left before it turned into a circus. Can't blame him for that.

• The lockerroom is split. Charean Williams' article outlined that pretty well. TO has a way of getting people to see things his way. Not because he is right, but because he can convince anyone the sun will rise at midnight. The question has to be asked: who's the bigger fool? Jerry for bringing him in or the teammates for buying into his BS?

• He will throw anyone under the bus - with the exception of Papa Jerry - to press his agenda. He threw JG under the bus and he threw Romo and Witten under the bus. I don't by into the "he's my quarterback" BS. Again, he's saying the right things at the right time to make it look like the tides are calming. Don't forget, there is always calm before the storm.

I can appreciate everyone's comments on this board. This is a place where we can all express our thoughts freely. However, I, nor anyone else, should completely bow down to your thoughts because you adamantly defend them. Even defense attorneys adamantly defend their clients. Not because they are innocent, it's just what they do.

To say TO has no fault in how this season turned out is asinine. He screamed for the ball, was targeted more than he should've been, and continued to drop them when they hit him in the hands.

This is my solution to the problem: Romo needs to let his sack drop and become a vocal leader. When there is whining, he needs to tell them to shut the hell up. The team is bigger than their individual stats.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Stop dancing around the question.

What did it hurt? Did it cost Dallas the season? Did it cause Tony some heartache? Garrett? What was the result?

Who does "negative media attention" effect besides you?

I think you might get an answer to that when some of the players leave for other teams. We already have two who want out of the circus.

But then fans of owens will just find a way to deny it.

 

[5Countem5]

I think you might get an answer to that when some of the players leave for other teams. We already have two who want out of the circus.

But then fans of owens will just find a way to deny it.

I would believe Zach Thomas.

I guess we'll see, won't we?

 

[odog422]

And just what do you hope to accomplish with your TO rants this morning?

Whatever it is, there is no need for you to worry about it.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I would believe Zach Thomas.

I guess we'll see, won't we?

Well he's already slipped it.

 

[5Countem5]

Well he's already slipped it.

And how was that?

If Zach has something to say he will say it. It won't be "slipped".

 

[lewpac]

Donkey Punch says that T.O. is at least partially responsible for Parcells digging out..................

See, he's brought some good to this team.

If and when he says anything in public that you construe as "throwing......under the bus", he's only saying politely what YOU'RE screaming at the TV screen. In every job in every workplace in every place in America, employees talk stink about their job. I don't care if you're a congressman, a janitor, a nurse, a store clerk or an electrician. As we speak, someone is complaining about their working conditions, their pay, a fellow employee, and certainly the evil business owner who's out to screw them..............

T.O. is an employee and lives in a land where he's allowed to exorcise his right to voice his opinions. Personally, I don't think he's "overboard" when he does it in public. Informal? Maybe. Politically correct? Perhaps not. Does he mostly say what I'm thinking??? Oh Yeah!!!!!

We have every right to come to this board and say FAR more damaging and destructive things than T.O. has said to date, out loud, about his team. Someone recently, in an attempt at humor, posted something to the effect that Romo tried to shoot himself, but Ed Reed intercepted the bulllet.......
Something like that. Whatever, it was over the top by anyones standards. But it's acceptable I guess and taken as tongue'n'cheek.

Again, whatever he's said out loud that gets you all sideways, if that's enough to throw a monkey wrench into this teams ability to win, then this team needs not only psychiatric help, but an exhorcist...............

 

[DallasEast]

Stop dancing around the question.

Stop lying. My answer to your question was as follows:

The Dallas Cowboys have always receive media attention. Some good. Some bad. The ramification of Owens not doing the interview would have been the subtraction of that totally unnecessarily negative media attention.

What did it hurt?

Answer: more time paid by players on their jobs and responsibilities through less time wasted by them forced to answer questions by Owens publicized concerns.

Did it cost Dallas the season?

Answer: No. The season was lost through a combination of: a) players not executing at the peak of their abilities, b) coaches not being flexible enough during games to counter the opposing teams' strategies and not properly preparing their players before the games, c) the front office not doing a better job of shielding the players from the media and/or the players themselves so that they may concentrate on the singular goal of winning the Super Bowl.

Did it cause Tony some heartache?

Answer: Don't know. Question: Do you know without a doubt that Romo wasn't adversely affected by the constant questioning? By the way, my question isn't whether he should or shouldn't have been tough enough to field the questioning, etc.

Garrett?

Answer: Read the previous answer.

What was the result?

You've repeated yourself. I've answered the question previously in this reply.

Who does "negative media attention" effect besides you?

Answer: my hypothesis is the team. Being a professional athlete, coach, etc., does not make you or your ability to perform at a high level impervious to distractions made by outsiders. These are human beings, not automatons. Teams which are the most focused are usually the most successful. While it's true that ALL the media attention may not have had ANY negative effects on the team, no one can quantifiably state that it did not have a negative effect on one or more players and/or coaches at some particular level also. Maybe you can prove otherwise because I can't, but the possibility is not undebatable either. However, one could remove that same possibility by not introducing the nonsense in the first place and that did not happen.

Maybe this time I'll get answers back before a lie and more questions.

 

[5Countem5]

These are human beings, not automatons. Teams which are the most focused are usually the most successful. While it's true that ALL the media attention may not have had ANY negative effects on the team, no one can quantifiably state that it did not have a negative effect on one or more players and/or coaches at some particular level also. Maybe you can prove otherwise because I can't, but the possibility is not undebatable either. However, one could remove that same possibility by not introducing the nonsense in the first place and that did not happen.

Maybe this time I'll get answers back before a lie and more questions.

They are humans and ones you give little credibility to handle such foolishness.

I watched Favre play after his father died and seriously doubt any amount of "negative media attention" would effect him. I watched Bryant the week after his infant SON died and seriously doubt any amount of "negative media attention" would effect him. I watched Romo play during his father's cancer scare. I can supply a helluva lot more if you'd like.

I know every player on this team has things that go on in their lives much more important to them than what TO says- yet they manage. If they were so "unfocused" as you and others state so often just because of the stupid crap TO says- they would be basketcases , unable to deal with anything when that is piled onto their plates.

So we can end the debate here. I give the players credit for being intelligent enough to sift through such foolishness, you think they lap this BS up like you and other fans do.

 

[DallasEast]

T.O. is an employee and lives in a land where he's allowed to exorcise his right to voice his opinions. Personally, I don't think he's "overboard" when he does it in public.

Owens isn't the only high-profile player in the league. During the season, it's reasonable to assume that there were other high-profile players which questioned the direction of their teams.

Questions. Why didn't Deion Sanders or someone else connected with NFL Network, ESPN, etc., secure interviews with other high profile players on other teams to voice their opinions?

Informal? Maybe.

There isn't anything informal about any high profile celebrity doing a one-on-one televised interview. It's the exact opposite.

Politically correct? Perhaps not.

In Owens case, it has nothing to do with political correctness and everything to do with taking public action where public action wasn't required nor necessary.

Does he mostly say what I'm thinking??? Oh Yeah!!!!!

So, Owens has to public say what others are thinking to vindicate the completely unnecessary action on his part? Okay.

man...

 

[Dave_in-NC]

They are humans and ones you give little credibility to handle such foolishness.

I watched Favre play after his father died and seriously doubt any amount of "negative media attention" would effect him. I watched Bryant the week after his infant SON died and seriously doubt any amount of "negative media attention" would effect him. I watched Romo play during his father's cancer scare. I can supply a helluva lot more if you'd like.

I know every player on this team has things that go on in their lives much more important to them than what TO says- yet they manage. If they were so "unfocused" as you and others state so often just because of the stupid crap TO says- they would be basketcases , unable to deal with anything when that is piled onto their plates.

So we can end the debate here. I give the players credit for being intelligent enough to sift through such foolishness, you think they lap this BS up like you and other fans do.

Why would the media respond to those tragedies with negative attention?
Kind of off track ain't ya?

 

[5Stars]

Maybe this time I'll get answers back before a lie and more questions.

You and I tease each other about T.O. And, you know I am a somewhat supporter of him, however, I have to admit that this year I've spoiled quite a bit about him. His abilities seem to shadow his emotions, and those emotions are not good at times, which will have an influence on some of the other players.

At this point in time, I would not care if he were gone. If he is such a distraction to the team, media, and us fans, then he needs to scoot. And, if it were at all possible with out salary cap issues, he would be a PERFECT example to this team if Jerry would come in and say, "T.O....hit the road!" How do you think that would wake up this team?

Also, I think that it was a mistake having 12, 13, probowlers last season because they came back this year thinking their **** don't stink...when it litteraly did! Some of those players, or maybe all of them, got big heads and thought that they were all that and then some!

If I were Jerry, or Wade puke: ) I would ask each and every player that if they don't want to be here, salary cap go to hell, then pack your bags and get out! Also, if I see that any player is a detriment to the team, percieved or not, star of not, your butt is outta here, salary cap go to hell!

Weed out the lawn, get rid of the pansys and daisys and start to grow a new green field with seeds that flurish.

Jimmy Johnson would have cut half of these morons his first year!

12, 13 probowlers, my butt!!

 

[5Countem5]

Why would the media respond to those tragedies with negative attention?
Kind of off track ain't ya?

Not at all. I'm saying players play through some of the worst things that can happen and don't lose focus yet you all believe their delicate psyches are ripped apart by negative press.

It's quite comical how little some think of a player.